Copyright Enfringement - Information

[thangcuoi]

@eobox91103 said in Copyright Enfringement - Information:

I also suggest uploading smaller torrents (i.e., one or two files) that users can fully download before the torrent goes away.

This is what I did, but it ended up getting my uploading privilege taken away for 90 days.

Not sure when this policy was introduced as I only upload intermittenly.

Maybe it would be helpful if there's a list of (recent) uploads that resulted in upload ban so uploader know to avoid or do it at our risk. The lack of transparency over the issue will lead to discouraging uploaders from contributing to the site.

[eobox91103]

@thangcuoi said in Copyright Enfringement - Information:

This is what I did, but it ended up getting my uploading privilege taken away for 90 days.
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Maybe it would be helpful if there's a list of (recent) uploads that resulted in upload ban so uploader know to avoid or do it at our risk. The lack of transparency over the issue will lead to discouraging uploaders from contributing to the site.

I didn't know that an uploading privilege could be taken away for copyright/DMCA reasons. I'm sorry this happened, and I hope that you will continue to share content on here. Many people, myself among them, appreciate your efforts.

As you say, it would be nice to know a bit more about these rules so that we uploaders could stay on the right side of them. That said, these topics are very sensitive and the site owners/administrators quite understandably don't want to discuss them very much.

(Given the title and content of this discussion thread, I'm assuming that the reason your torrents were removed was for copyright reasons. If the reason had to do with uploading something on the banned list at https://www.gaytor.rent/notallowed.php, that would be another matter.)

[A Former User]

To everyone: barely all content is passible of DMCA enforcement. Studio titles, content from fansites and even amateur content as most of such are bought or administred by porn sites such as pornhub. Same for cam sites. Each of these companies have the right to prosecute anyone in any site requesting such content to be removed and the site is forced to fulfill those requests or it might be taken to a court where both the site owner and the uploader will have their anonimity compromised, among other things.

Some companies are quicker to issue take down notices because they have other companies specialized in scrapping the web in search for copyrighted material.

The reason why you can find copyrighted material in sites such as pornhub and xvideos is: they pay royalties to those companies to have SOME content allowed. They will still act quickly to remove anything that's not part of the deal. Most of those porn studios have their own profiles there too.

In short: please stop complaining about DMCA take downs, it makes no sense and it's useless.

[vanman]

@thangcuoi well that's a shame your UL privileges were suspended. I too would like to know what the policy is with respect to punitive measures in response to take down notices. How many before it's problematic? Or are only certain kinds problematic? when should one just stop trying to upload to avoid problems? There seems to be no guidelines and hearing someone randomly targetted without full disclosure is problematic. Hard to comply with uploading and posting rules when there aren't any in this regard.

[A Former User]

@vanman If you actually are willing to play by the rules, there is ONE relating to this regard and its pretty simple: you cannot upload copyrighted material.

If people followed it I think the site would have died long ago. But still, that's a rule, you are expected to be punished by not abiding. There is a 3 strike policy like most sites with user-submitted content. You are notified of the takedown twice, the third time you have your uploading rights revoked for 90 days, which you should not cry about as they could pretty much terminate your account altogether.

But these strikes expire, you can have multiple torrents taken down, but if that occur consecutively in a short timeframe, you will be penalized.

So answering to your question, if you have more than one of your torrents deleted in less than a month you should definitely avoid uploading for a while.

Studio scenes and fansite content are both very tricky, there are web scraping bots that deep search the internet looking for words AND pictures, they focus primarily on these contents.

[vanman]

@ianfontinell huh? everthing shared is copyrighted. It was produced by someone who has given permission to reproduce or share. That includes porn, TV, movies etc etc. You know those things the site has categories set up for. Seriously man.

[eobox91103]

@vanman said in Copyright Enfringement - Information:

everything shared is copyrighted

Yes. That's right.

It was produced by someone who has given permission to reproduce or share

Really? I doubt that.

Seriously man.

I won't presume to speak for brother @ianfontinell, but I believe he is serious, accurate, and correct.

[A Former User]

@vanman don't seriously me, you go read the rules and then you complain with someone else because I don't even understand what you want to be done when you know you don't own the distribution rights to anything you might ever upload in here, and when it get deleted just sit down and cry, don't need to make a new post cause there's too many like these already.

[vanman]

@ianfontinell All content created is copyrighted the moment it's filmed. So pretty tough to host a website that would rely on non copyrighted content, literally impossible. Your contention is laughable. Don't waste my time. Seriously get a grip dude.

[vanman]

@eobox91103 lol. Yup a website devoted to porn that only hosts non copyrighted material lol? All content is copyrighted by definition. And you need permission to disseminate. Not sure what fantasy world you're living in. Fair use would be the only means of sharing and doubt we want anyones commentary on porn. Y'all must be new to the Internet and file sharing, good luck though.

[eobox91103]

@vanman said in Copyright Enfringement - Information:

Not sure what fantasy world you're living in.

I think you're probably referring to the fantasy world of other posters in this thread; I'm very aware that everything is copyrighted.

The only stuff I own the copyright to are "home movies" I've made with my boyfriend. If I ever posted those, the consequences to me would make capital punishment look like a parking fine.

[vanman]

@eobox91103 google is your friend There is no such thing as non copyrighted material. The content creator owns the copyright the moment they create it. Even if downloaded with permission it cannot be shared legally. The only exception to share without permission is fair use. Therefore a site demanding only non-copyrighted material would have no content lol unless people are uploading their own work. But that wouldn't be pleasant lol

[john32123666]

Who Owns and Holds the Rights to a Copyright :

First, it's helpful to review the various exclusive rights granted to copyright holders by the Copyright Act of 1976:

reproduction rights: the right to make copies of a protected work
distribution rights: the right to sell or otherwise distribute copies to the public
right to create adaptations: the right to prepare new works based on the protected work (called derivative works), and
performance and display rights: the rights to perform a protected work (such as a stage play) or to display a work in public.

This bundle of rights allows a copyright owner to be flexible when deciding how to realize commercial gain from the underlying work; the owner may keep those rights, or as outlined above, may sell, assign, or license any of the rights by contract.

Assignment of Copyright Owner's Rights
When a copyright owner wishes to commercially exploit a work covered by copyright, the owner typically transfers one or more of these rights to the person or entity who will be responsible for getting the work to market, such as a book or software publisher.

Ways copyright ownership can be transferred:
Assignment or license. An assignment is a transfer of ownership interest in the copyright; a license is a grant of only some of the rights comprising copyright.
Mortgage or security. A copyright can be mortgaged or used as security for an obligation. This is somewhat rare for most copyright owners.
Transfer upon death. If an owner of copyright dies with a valid will, the copyright will be transferred to a designated beneficiary. If an owner of copyright dies without a will, transfer of ownership will occur according to the rules of intestate succession.
Involuntary transfer. Under certain circumstances (for example, bankruptcy, mortgage foreclosure, or divorce), a court can order the transfer of copyright.
...
SOURCE : https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/copyright-ownership-rights-

[cinemacapman]

@vanman said in Copyright Enfringement - Information:

@eobox91103 google is your friend There is no such thing as non copyrighted material. The content creator owns the copyright the moment they create it. Even if downloaded with permission it cannot be shared legally. The only exception to share without permission is fair use. Therefore a site demanding only non-copyrighted material would have no content lol unless people are uploading their own work. But that wouldn't be pleasant lol

Nonsense. Haven't you ever heard of something which is in the "public domain"?
Which means NO COPYRIGHT is on that material either because copyright has run out on it due to age, or because copyright was never properly registered to begin with.

[cinemacapman]

@vanman said in Copyright Enfringement - Information:

@ianfontinell huh? everthing shared is copyrighted. It was produced by someone who has given permission to reproduce or share. That includes porn, TV, movies etc etc.

That makes no sense. You just contradicted yourself. You not only said "everything shared is copyrighted" and then "produced by someone who has given permission".

No they have not automatically "given permission to reproduce or share". In some instances, maybe, but not as a generalized blanket rule.

@vanman said in Copyright Enfringement - Information:

All content created is copyrighted the moment it's filmed

That further contradicts what you said as far as "given permission".

You need to put a lid on how you frequently pontificate and ramble on about something you know nothing about, attempting to appear as though you know what you're talking about.
I've been noticing this as a common pattern from you in the Forums.

[vanman]

@cinemacapman LOL yeah, but it aint porn, get a grip. and move on.