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    Florida to Enact "Don't Say Gay" Bill

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    • gerggentlyG Offline
      gerggently @2127493739
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      It is only be educating children about sex and sexuality that they can be fully informed when those situations arise as they grow up.

      I had the upbringing where I was never even given 'the talk'. I learned, unofficially, about sex through books and friends/peers and, officially, at aged 13 in school.

      I will not subject my children to that ignorance. I never, for example, refer to genitalia as 'willy'. They've known since they could talk that a penis is a penis and a vulva is a vulva. No bullshit. They've known what a condom is since they were about 6/7, and the boys have been taught about periods and what young girls will have to deal with someday.

      It is only by educating our children that they can deal with issues as they arise, even up to a worst case scenario where that includes an abuse.

      If my children are ever abused they will be able to articulate to an investigator exactly what happened to them, they will not feel odd talking about their experience and will be able to refer to intimate body parts without embarrassment or hesitation.

      Education is empowering, suppressing is perpetuating abuse and driving that widespread abuse underground, completely the opposite of this bill's supposed purpose which is to deal with 'groomers'. What fucking bullshit.

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        @bi4smooth said in Florida to Enact "Don't Say Gay" Bill:

        What's more, the language in this bill is so vague, it is sure to be struck down in the courts...

        Not a chance, Kavanaugh, Thomas, Alito, and Coney-Barrett will see to it being upheld if it gets that far.

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          @gerggently And I suppose Gorsuch will be the final nail in the LGBT educational coffin.

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            gerggently @flozen
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            @flozen

            You're more likely to be right than wrong, it could also include Roberts, too.

            The thing is, Gorsuch has already written an amazing opinion defending the rights of trans people. The language in it was strident, I was in disbelief reading it as a I recall. Watching the Federalist Society losing their minds in response to it was worth his nomination.

            If he does join, it might be on a narrow ruling, which would be welcome, but with their supermajority, and a clear signal of intent to overrule any precedent they see fit, it would not surprise me to see him reverse himself with the court.

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              flozen @gerggently
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              @gerggently Agreed re: Gorsuch -- and appreciation for reminding me of his (to me, surprising) opinion in this regard.

              Hoping that's not a sign of early-onset penile dementia!

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              • bi4smoothB Offline
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                You misunderstood my grounds for appeal.

                I have no illusions that the Fed judiciary (still plump with Trump nominees) will fail to continue the activist intervention that led to the creation of Gay Rights under Federal Court mandate long before any actual laws were passed (much as I agreed with the politics of those rulings, they were "judicial overreach" IMHO).

                No, the basis of the appeals in this case will be the vagueness of the law.

                There is a principle under US Law that says, for example, you can't write a law that says "Don't do bad thing, or you'll go to jail." and "let the courts figure it out" - which is basically what the real "guts" of this new law attempts to do... No, laws have to be specific!

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