Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...
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Ok sweetheart, keep playing mental gymnastics as told to you by liberal MSM.
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@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
Ok sweetheart, keep playing mental gymnastics as told to you by liberal MSM.
You keep arguing with your Straw Man... I haven't said once that they should be forced to stop the audit in AZ... all I've said is that they did an extremely poor job of setting it up and executing it - so poor that no one NOT ALREADY convinced of the fraud Trump claims is there will believe their findings are anything but a political hack-job. The facts won't matter... they've tainted themselves as overtly partisan already... even if there IS fraud -- on a scale large enough to sway the election -- no one (outside Trumpites already) will believe it. Thus, it's a waste of time and money.
That said, the guy who owns the company doing the audit is doing quite well! In spite of the outrageous real estate prices in Fla today, he'll be able to buy Mara Lago when he's done!
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Maricopa County has fought every inch of the way to prevent the audit, but of course, the "news" you get informed of doesn't tell you that. Oh no, they rehash the "Russia stole our election" bullshit from 2016.
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@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
Maricopa County has fought every inch of the way to prevent the audit, but of course, the "news" you get informed of doesn't tell you that. Oh no, they rehash the "Russia stole our election" bullshit from 2016.
Yes, they tried (past-tense), and they lost in court.
Unlike Trumpites who also lost in court, but keep whining about it!
Next!
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You are clearly too stupid to have even a single clue.
For many people, it's not about Trump, despite your extreme TDS.
It's about honest and fair elections.
OH, and Maricopa County is still fighting the audit. Despite court orders to turnover modems and many other things, they are actively refusing. You know, nothing to hide and all that.
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@bi4smooth It's not a straw man, which you keep blabbering on about. Not one Democrat has challenged the fact that the audit is on 13 or so cameras, live for the world to see, totally transparent, triple checked. The only thing they can say is that the Republicans are funding it so therefore it's not legit. It's not only that, but they're giving tours to anyone interested to see if they aren't doing it right. They are doing everything under a microscope and showing everyone everything they're finding, so the idea that you'd complain is ridiculous.
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@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
@bi4smooth It's not a straw man, which you keep blabbering on about. Not one Democrat has challenged the fact that the audit is on 13 or so cameras, live for the world to see, totally transparent, triple checked. The only thing they can say is that the Republicans are funding it so therefore it's not legit. It's not only that, but they're giving tours to anyone interested to see if they aren't doing it right. They are doing everything under a microscope and showing everyone everything they're finding, so the idea that you'd complain is ridiculous.
You don't actually read what I type, do you.
That's why I referenced a "straw man"...
The Arizona elections were already audited - by professionals - TWICE. Including a manual recount.
This ain't that - but my complaint isn't that it's happening... it's that it is so clearly partisan, and invested solely in proving that something DID happen - not in determining whether or not something happened.
Auditors don't go in looking for some specific cheat... they go in looking for the POSSIBILITY of a cheat! And they are (by their code of ethics) supposed to be just as open to the idea that there is no cheat, as that there is one.
This ain't that.
Republicans - more and more, even those in AZ - are beginning to say the same things...
Oh, and the millions of dollars being spent (mostly earned and kept by the miscreant owner of "Cyber Ninjas", Doug Logan - a Trumpite who said at the beginning of the process that he was there to find the fraud (not determine if there WAS fraud).
But this dude has been collecting $MILLIONS in "donations" - even though the VAST MAJORITY of the people doing the "auditing" are volunteers (e.g. unpaid).
And to be clear, the Republican Party of AZ is not a part of this farce, it is a group of AZ Republican Senators who are driving this "Crazy bus"...
But there is nothing illegal about this fraud (yes, in my mind, the one committing the fraud here is Doug Logan & Cyber Ninjas)... at least not yet. Once the precedent of this "hits the road" - and Democrats start doing the same things in future elections, this shit will come to a stop. "Freedom of Information" will cease to include actual ballots... (just my prediction).
But, for now, it is perfectly legal, if a colossal waste of time... esp since this is a "witchhunt" more than an "audit" (for the reasons I laid out above).
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@bi4smooth No, they were not audited fully or forensically. Period. They were audited fractionally. I posted a quote here by Jovan Pulitzer earlier this week that you ignore: "You cannot find fraud in a fraction. When a bank does an audit, they don't just count the tens. They count the twenties, the fifties, and the hundreds, every single dollar. The audit you refer to was not a true audit. Votes are like money." Say you audit 1,000 ballots in one county... What if the fraud was in the other 100,000 ballots somewhere. It's just ridiculous that you try to say such garbage.
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@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
@bi4smooth No, they were not audited fully or forensically. Period. They were audited fractionally. I posted a quote here by Jovan Pulitzer earlier this week that you ignore: "You cannot find fraud in a fraction. When a bank does an audit, they don't just count the tens. They count the twenties, the fifties, and the hundreds, every single dollar. The audit you refer to was not a true audit. Votes are like money." Say you audit 1,000 ballots in one county... What if the fraud was in the other 100,000 ballots somewhere. It's just ridiculous that you try to say such garbage.
You stupid F**k... Maricopa County did a complete audit - and a complete manual recount - in the 2020 election aftermath.
I suggest you check your facts.
BTW: Georgia just told you and your ilk to go fly a kite... get used to it!
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@bi4smooth No. They did not. Why don't you put your teeth where your mouth is and back up anything you say? You can't. You just claim crap that isn't true.
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@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
@bi4smooth No. They did not. Why don't you put your teeth where your mouth is and back up anything you say? You can't. You just claim crap that isn't true.
ROFL - A Trumpite, QAnon believer claiming others spout crap that isn't true.
Read any LEGITIMATE coverage of the Cyber Ninja audit - that includes the back-story of the Maricopa County Supervisor of Elections (a Republican), and you'll confirm my statement: they audited the results TWICE: once with a machine recount, and once in a manual recount.
The same happened in GA! Only in GA, it was STATEWIDE!
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@bi4smooth Oh really? Then why bother with a forensic audit using science and technology? It's just a bunch of unhappy Trump supporters that are unhappy with the results and can't let it go. Bullshit. We know thousands of dead people voted. We know that there were more ballots than voters. We know lots of things. And you're delusional. It's the fox guarding the hen house and it's obvious. You're just wrong.
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@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
@bi4smooth Oh really? Then why bother with a forensic audit using science and technology? It's just a bunch of unhappy Trump supporters that are unhappy with the results and can't let it go. Bullshit. We know thousands of dead people voted. We know that there were more ballots than voters. We know lots of things. And you're delusional. It's the fox guarding the hen house and it's obvious. You're just wrong.
I don't claim to know all that much about the audits - I've not said that I have audited a single ballot.
I have repeated the statements of the Republican Supervisor of Elections of Maricopa County, AZ what she and her staff completed a machine recount "audit", and then a manual recount "audit" of the 2020 election results.... and found no evidence of fraud.
Those are her statements - I've never claimed them as otherwise.
The delusional part of this isn't the audit itself, but rather the belief that the result - whatever it is - is somehow going to trigger some cascade of events where Trump is reinstalled as President. THAT is delusional.
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@bi4smooth Oh, so you're basing your belief system off of politician's words. How stupid are you? I guess if it fits the narrative that you wanna believe, it's the truth. That isn't delusional AT ALL. Let's just all stand down and say, "the democrats and Rinos SAID, it's all good." They have no vested interest in power, whatsoever. Jesus you are fucking stupid.
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@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
@bi4smooth Oh, so you're basing your belief system off of politician's words. How stupid are you? I guess if it fits the narrative that you wanna believe, it's the truth. That isn't delusional AT ALL. Let's just all stand down and say, "the democrats and Rinos SAID, it's all good." They have no vested interest in power, whatsoever. Jesus you are fucking stupid.
You just do not understand our Government, do you....
There really isn't any excuse for your level of ignorance, given the vociferousness of your claims.Supervisors of Elections are considered non-political. In many jurisdictions, the "party affiliation" of candidates is not allowed to be on the ballot. That doesn't mean that candidates cannot belong to a political party, but it does mean that the position is apolitical.
That said, just listen to yourself! I could understand a level of distrust if these Supervisors were Democrats... but they aren't! And in GA, the whole damned State is run by Republicans, save for the Atlanta area! They recounted the whole damned State - and Trump lost... so they counted again (manually) - and Trump STILL lost!
I get it: your definition of a "free and fair election" is one where your candidate wins, no matter what.
Yeah... that's the ticket! (You ARE a John Lovett fan, aren't you... come on, admit that, at least!)
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@bi4smooth Oh fucking yes, so when the election officials are actually kicking conservatives out of the building, boarding up the windows so nobody can see inside, and claiming a water pipe burst when it was just a leaky toilet, and then pulling ballots out from under the table at 1 AM ON VIDEO, that's just nonsense. Don't believe you're lying eyes folks. Dude, get real.
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You are a dishonest buffoon. You really are.
We already discussed several cases of long-term voter fraud by election officials or have you forgot?!
We had the woman election official in Wayne County MI admit to election fraud for every election, for over 20 years.
Broward County FL had over 3 decades of election fraud by their top election officials. Jeb Bush even had to appoint a replacement for one of them, only for this appointee (Brenda Snipes) to turn out to be the dirtiest of the lot. These assholes were extremely dirty and so were the people they hired.
We had that woman south of San Antonio who was openly paying for votes, with cash from the candidates. There was even a fake Republican multi-millionaire who wanted everyone to vote straight party line for Democrats. Project Veritas busted her.
We had that guy from Ilhan Omar's district buying ballots. Your beloved MSM said he didn't break the law because the anti-ballot harvesting law was "on hold", which was a total lie. They also ignored the fact that the guy filmed himself buying blank but signed ballots. Project Veritas busted this corruption too.
There was one county (can't remember which) where the Sheriff and his deputies illegally handled ballots that contained the Sheriff's election. People were even arrested for questioning this illegal practice. The Sheriff, despite being very unpopular, won by a wide margin.
We (you and I) have discussed these people and more here. I, and others, have posted about others that you may or may not have discussed, but I can't remember if you did or not.
Oh, and let's not forget the NJ district where the judge ruled the election was so fraudulent that the entire election had to be done over again, except for the President, because Biden won that district's vote. Biden won the vote for President, so that MUST mean it was a clean election, but every other position up for election on the very same ballot was an absolute fraud. Only a fucking brain-dead clown would believe that crackheaded shit. And YES, you defended this shit, so that is just another thing that proves you have absolutely no credibility.
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@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
You are a dishonest buffoon. You really are.
We already discussed several cases of long-term voter fraud by election officials or have you forgot?!
We had the woman election official in Wayne County MI admit to election fraud for every election, for over 20 years.
Broward County FL had over 3 decades of election fraud by their top election officials. Jeb Bush even had to appoint a replacement for one of them, only for this appointee (Brenda Snipes) to turn out to be the dirtiest of the lot. These assholes were extremely dirty and so were the people they hired.
We had that woman south of San Antonio who was openly paying for votes, with cash from the candidates. There was even a fake Republican multi-millionaire who wanted everyone to vote straight party line for Democrats. Project Veritas busted her.
We had that guy from Ilhan Omar's district buying ballots. Your beloved MSM said he didn't break the law because the anti-ballot harvesting law was "on hold", which was a total lie. They also ignored the fact that the guy filmed himself buying blank but signed ballots. Project Veritas busted this corruption too.
There was one county (can't remember which) where the Sheriff and his deputies illegally handled ballots that contained the Sheriff's election. People were even arrested for questioning this illegal practice. The Sheriff, despite being very unpopular, won by a wide margin.
We (you and I) have discussed these people and more here. I, and others, have posted about others that you may or may not have discussed, but I can't remember if you did or not.
Oh, and let's not forget the NJ district where the judge ruled the election was so fraudulent that the entire election had to be done over again, except for the President, because Biden won that district's vote. Biden won the vote for President, so that MUST mean it was a clean election, but every other position up for election on the very same ballot was an absolute fraud. Only a fucking brain-dead clown would believe that crackheaded shit. And YES, you defended this shit, so that is just another thing that proves you have absolutely no credibility.
There are kids cheating on their summer school tests today in the USA!
That doesn't mean the American Educational System is full of lying, cheating kids who are graduating as illiterate, math-phobic, science-disbelieving, morons (most do not aspire to your personal heights of feats in these areas)...No one (no reasonable person) is claiming that every single vote was legit - only that the number of illegal votes that "made it through the cracks" were not enough to sway the election in any direction.
To be clear: I personally do not make this claim... the Elections Professionals - in EVERY STATE make this claim! The only people alleging massive, outcome-changing fraud are the Trumpites - and at EVERY TURN, when asked for proof the only tangible thing they had was: their infallible, God-Like, Donald Trump lost... and he couldn't lose!
Were there illegal votes? Sure - some malicious, some accidental (Florida - in our own inimitable way granted, removed, re-granted, and then re-removed the voting rights of convicted felons who had served their sentences... and so some of them were confused and voted when they shouldn't have. Some were even arrested (for new felonies - attempted vote fraud!) by over-jealous police... but, to a case, prosecutors recognized the confusion and refused to prosecute even one.)
The entire educational system is not brought to its knees because some 12 y/o figured out how to cheat on a test and not be caught... and our entire elections process is not invalidated because some individuals scattered about the country have claimed (true or not) that they beat the system.
Trump lost.
With or without illegal votes (and how Trumpian of you to assume that all of those illegal votes were against Trump!)
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@bi4smooth No, he didn't lose. The Democrats committed fraud and treason, and the evidence is overwhelming, and most of the country knows this is a fact. There is so much evidence that to act like none of it is real is extraordinarily pathetic and delusional.
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Steven Crowder did prove massive voter fraud in a couple of videos, but liberal YouTube got butt hurt.
If you didn't actually support illegal voting, you would have looked at his videos on the topic and looked at the evidence he presented.
You don't care because Trump lost. You don't care how or why just that he lost. That is your extreme mental illness at work.
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