Impossible to increase ratio

Seripus

@Seripus:

Hello,

I am desperately trying to increase my ratio and have uploaded a small sized torrent. Now after a few hours my ratio has barely moved and the 25 people that downladed it will also now share the seed when new people download. So now it will take even longer. What am I to do? I want to contribute, but I don't have access to these pay-sites and I don't have any money to donate.

Not to sound rude (don't take it like that), but this is simply a case where you need to understand torrents more. If you understood torrents, you wouldn't try to increase your ratio with a small file. Without getting long winded (but you still need to read outside this tracker), the whole essence of torrents is that you must give to get back. Therefore, you say to yourself, "I can't possibly be able to download 6GB worth of files while only seeding/offering a 298MB file." Nuff said.

I have now increased my ratio exponentially. I leave my comp on 24/7, that basically fixed it.

lalle2002

you know what the problem with this torrent site is… seeder bonus is stuck in year 2010.

five years ago, i was downloading 350MB per scene and seeder bonus of 600points = 10GB upload was enough to keep my ratio of 1.0
but now, in 2020, i download 1.5GB per scene and keeping a good ratio through seeder bonus points is impossible.

P.S. I seed 24/7

bearbearbear

@lalle2002:

you know what the problem with this torrent site is… seeder bonus is stuck in year 2010.

five years ago, i was downloading 350MB per scene and seeder bonus of 600points = 10GB upload was enough to keep my ratio of 1.0
but now, in 2020, i download 1.5GB per scene and keeping a good ratio through seeder bonus points is impossible.

P.S. I seed 24/7

I download mostly the larger files and have uploaded only a few and relatively unpopular torrents but have no trouble keeping my ratio up just from seeding 24/7. I don't even buy traffic with bonus points. I wonder if something is preventing you from sharing data such as low upstream bandwidth or a software setting?

eobox91103

Another good way to improve ratio is to:
1) Find a new torrent with many files that hasn't been fully seeded yet (i.e., shows only one seeder, but many leechers). This will only happen when a torrent is very new.
2) Download the torrent, but only select some of the files (like the smallest ones) to download–which means marking the other files "don't download" in your torrent client.
3) Let this torrent seed for at least a few hours, preferably a few days.

This way you will get the file(s) you have selected fairly quickly, and then be a resource for the other leechers who are trying to get all of the files. Your ratio on this torrent can easily get to 5:1 or even 10:1. And, this "trick" doesn't damage the system or harm other users.

The only disadvantage here is that this torrent will show up as "seeding" in your torrents listing as long as you don't have all of the files. Once you've reached a good ratio with it, or most other leechers have gone away, just delete the torrent, and keep the files if you wish.

lalle2002

@bearbearbear:

@lalle2002:

you know what the problem with this torrent site is… seeder bonus is stuck in year 2010.

five years ago, i was downloading 350MB per scene and seeder bonus of 600points = 10GB upload was enough to keep my ratio of 1.0
but now, in 2020, i download 1.5GB per scene and keeping a good ratio through seeder bonus points is impossible.

P.S. I seed 24/7

I download mostly the larger files and have uploaded only a few and relatively unpopular torrents but have no trouble keeping my ratio up just from seeding 24/7. I don't even buy traffic with bonus points. I wonder if something is preventing you from sharing data such as low upstream bandwidth or a software setting?

i don't know.
i noticed that when there is a lot of seeders, leechers are not downloading from me. but when i am the only seeder, leecher has no problem downloading from me. probably my internet speed is slower than super seeders'.

bearbearbear

@lalle2002:

i don't know.
i noticed that when there is a lot of seeders, leechers are not downloading from me. but when i am the only seeder, leecher has no problem downloading from me. probably my internet speed is slower than super seeders'.

That is pretty much my situation, too, even though my internet speeds are okay by U.S. standards, and I don't know why, either.

xbw100x

You're probably not connectable.

Even though seed bonus is "stuck in 2010" it's extremely generous to offer 0.5 bonus per torrent regardless of size. No problems increasing ratio here and havent had to exchange since like my first year on this site.

lalle2002

unfortunately, i do have problem maintaining my ratio here and that's why i am more active on other torrent sites which give me better upload credit.

i think seeder bonus should be updated to reflect bigger and bigger screens and file sizes. for example 600 points should give you 20 GB upload credit instead of 10 GB. that's the point of seeder bonus for those who have trouble uploading.

i think it's in this site's interest that i and others like me are as active as possible, meaning downloading a lot of stuff and keeping torrents alive through 24/7 seeding.

that's just my suggestion. easy fix really

xbw100x

If you have a problem maintaining ratio, that's on you, and not the site's. Check your leeching activities and adjust to make sure you're in the green.

There's many ways offered by the tracker, and not offered by the tracker to improve your ratio. Utilize them. Seedbonus isn't cutting it? Sitewide freeleech, freeleech picks. Bearbearbear mentioned this already. Even if you only get a little bit of upload credit, it's still a positive gain for a zero impact download. Seedboxes are also an option, and there's many budget friendly seedboxes that can be rented. Grab one for 5 USD a month. Load up free leech picks and you're set for the whole year.

cleaude

@xbw100x:

You're probably not connectable.

Even though seed bonus is "stuck in 2010" it's extremely generous to offer 0.5 bonus per torrent regardless of size. No problems increasing ratio here and havent had to exchange since like my first year on this site.

It's not per torrent. It's for one or more torrent. So you get 0.5 points per hour and that's it. At least that's what it is for me and that's what the FAQ states. If you know a way of getting more, please let me know. I'm seeding for several sites, but somehow on this one I get almost no traffic seeding. I uploaded a torrent and literally seeded it exactly once, after that nobody ever seeded from me again. The torrent is reasonably popular, but apparently my connection isn't. As I said, I'm seeding on other sites just fine, and apparently I can seed here too when I'm the only option, so I doubt the problem are my settings.

It almost feels like there's a club of super seeders that are hogging all the traffic and basically choking out the rest of us. Which just causes even less downloads and thus less seeding etc. It's not "generous" to offer those bonus points, it's straight up necessary because there's just no other way. And no, I won't donate to a site that basically forces me to through the back door (no pun intended).

I don't really want to jump through useless hoops like fake forum posts or "repackaging" existing torrents. I think it should be enough that I basically just offer what I got here. Fair and square.

xbw100x

Are you sure you're connectable?

It sounds like you think you are, but you're actually not. That was my use case, and once I've gotten that resolved, I was able to massively increase the number of leeches connecting to me.

Have you tried cross seeding? Or is that not "fair and square?"

hk20

@xbw100x:

You're probably not connectable.

Even though seed bonus is "stuck in 2010" it's extremely generous to offer 0.5 bonus per torrent regardless of size. No problems increasing ratio here and havent had to exchange since like my first year on this site.

not true!! you get only 0.5 point max per hour regardless of the number of torrents u seed, seeding 1 torrent or 100 torrents at the same time, does not make a difference. this site has the stingiest seeding system i have ever seen..

lalle2002

@cleaude:

@xbw100x:

You're probably not connectable.

Even though seed bonus is "stuck in 2010" it's extremely generous to offer 0.5 bonus per torrent regardless of size. No problems increasing ratio here and havent had to exchange since like my first year on this site.

It's not per torrent. It's for one or more torrent. So you get 0.5 points per hour and that's it. At least that's what it is for me and that's what the FAQ states. If you know a way of getting more, please let me know. I'm seeding for several sites, but somehow on this one I get almost no traffic seeding. I uploaded a torrent and literally seeded it exactly once, after that nobody ever seeded from me again. The torrent is reasonably popular, but apparently my connection isn't. As I said, I'm seeding on other sites just fine, and apparently I can seed here too when I'm the only option, so I doubt the problem are my settings.

It almost feels like there's a club of super seeders that are hogging all the traffic and basically choking out the rest of us. Which just causes even less downloads and thus less seeding etc. It's not "generous" to offer those bonus points, it's straight up necessary because there's just no other way. And no, I won't donate to a site that basically forces me to through the back door (no pun intended).

I don't really want to jump through useless hoops like fake forum posts or "repackaging" existing torrents. I think it should be enough that I basically just offer what I got here. Fair and square.

OMG you took the words out of my mouth. you said it so well.

i am currently seeding 25 torrents here, 25 torrents on second site, and 25 on third site. and let me tell you, i'm seeding like crazy on those other sites, but none here. traffic turnover is huge there because average joes that do not have seed boxes are downloading a lot. average joe cannot download a lot here because of ratio policy.

i can download here 10 GB per month. if i download more, my ratio goes down too much. do you know how many GB i can download per month on those other sites. 100-500GB. if i'm in this situation here, than 1000s other average users are also. and wouldn't it be better for this site if we all could download 100GB per month instead of 10GB.

it's all about traffic turnover. if it's slow then the site is dead. just like the economy. if everyone starts saving money instead of spending, we're screwed.

what i'm trying to say from the beginning of this discussion is that downloading 10 GB per month was fine for me in 2015, but now it's not enough and seeder bonus should go up.