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That is what you get from here, because indeed I feel directly involved as being part of group called ~caucasians by you ( a term I personally don't like). Hoping to stop it being added right away and have some larger membership expressing what they think about ~caucasians tag or another possible tags for that lack. Unfortunately there is no other participation than you and me.
Why? Is anyone uploading any works with you in them?
This has been my critique of your motivation all along. If you object to ~Caucasians and don't not object to the use of other racial tags like ~blacks or ~Asians I believe your argument is flawed.
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Hey guys
This race discussion won't bring anything good, each of you two will answer the other one and it will get worse.
We all read your arguments (i read you 3 times now) and understood what you both meant.
I'm sure both of you aren't happy the way this topic goes now, so why not stop answering (please) ?It's not a sign of weakness to stop arguing, even if you both think are right.
On the contrary, it shows a mental strength ("i can stop answering even if i think i'm right and i will stop answering right now because i would like things to calm down")Please staff, discuss it internally and choose the best word who will agree to the majority of you, update the list and everybody will be happy again.
Hugs to (alphabetical order lol) Aiweelie & Uwe :hug2:
Not forgetting our unforgettable Leatherbear ! :hug: -
Blackdid.
Uwe and I are guilty of nothing more than having a discussion about a very complex topic. Neither of us have been uncivil to one another. I believe this discussion is important because it could lead to something beyond racial categories or something better than ~Caucasians that means people who have traditionally associated those living in the Western part of the Northern Hemisphere.
I welcome your opinions but not like this. Hiding behind some anonymous "we." Other than you who is part of your "we"?
Hey guys
This race discussion won't bring anything good, each of you two will answer the other one and it will get worse.
We all read your arguments (i read you 3 times now) and understood what you both meant.
I'm sure both of you aren't happy the way this topic goes now, so why not stop answering (please) ?It's not a sign of weakness to stop arguing, even if you both think are right.
On the contrary, it shows a mental strength ("i can stop answering even if i think i'm right and i will stop answering right now because i would like things to calm down")Please staff, discuss it internally and choose the best word who will agree to the majority of you, update the list and everybody will be happy again.
Hugs to (alphabetical order lol) Aiweelie & Uwe :hug2:
Not forgetting our unforgettable Leatherbear ! :hug: -
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This has been my critique of your motivation all along. If you object to ~Caucasians and don't not object to the use of other racial tags like ~blacks or ~Asians I believe your argument is flawed.That is simply NOT what I ever expressed here.
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might i make a suggestion?
Since this is a tagging mechanism, it would automatically try to group torrents into certain groups. and as "groups" there should be a label because if we don't label it then people wouldn't know what the tag was.
Maybe we can agree not to be offended if terms like white, black, latino, asian, or caucasian were used, depending on what the moderators decide? Not everything has to be taken offensively, or even personally.
Would be sad if we defined ourselves solely by the tags that are present on this site.
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I welcome your opinions but not like this. Hiding behind some anonymous "we." Other than you who is part of your "we"?
Hi aiweelie,
"we" meant nothing special.
I simply had in mind the 288 users who read this topic at the exact time I wrote this sentence -
Hi guys,
PLEASE calm down a bit - all of you who offer their opininions about this "race" discussions. Please understand one thing as the most important thing about our torrent categories and/or search tags: They are not meant as an exact ethnological/geographical/ <put here="" what="" you="" like="">exact definition. Not at all. At the start of this site we just had around 10 different categories which have now grown to 30 - and there is a problem now rising how to distinguish a new category from the existing ones. Just an example from our recent staff discussion. How to distinguish men from the (now come just geographical terms:)western Asian lets say from turkey up to the (still to be defined) border to east Asia (China, Japan, … as an example) but including north-afrika ? IMHOthose people in the named regions have a lot of similarities which differ from east-asian people.
Now: How to name such a category so that all of our members have a "correct" understanding which type of men are meant to be found in such a category? If we include the "political correctness" in such a debate - been there, done that - hopeless. If we additionally add the topic of "racism" in such a debate: a flame war is approaching all of us.
Please, be also aware the most Europeans (geographically only) and especially Germans have a lot of problems with such terms. Calling "us" racists has (even today) a very strong pejorative background for us who did not yet forget the past from 60 years ago - real Nazism from where a lot of people still have inherited their aversion against racist discussions - in Germany we had those bad discussions more than enough in the past since 1930 or even 1920)! Sorry, but also that is part of the current discussion, at least below the surface.
I admit too that political correctness might be a good thing - I just think that term should belong to the department politics or politicians - not to a gay BitTorrent site.
Bottom line: we should try to find (in this case) a search tag which can rather exactly describe what is meant to be found when you use such a tag but not express any racist or pejorative meaning.
Because the topic arose in this discussion earlier: the current torrent categories / search tags are not meant to express racism or insults - but to express a difference in appearance at the first glance - to express it a bit more "political correct".
BTW: the "political correctness" especially in Germany gets more absurd each and every day. Not only new words are invented "Kanzlerin" for "Kanzler" (female chancellor (chanceloress?) instead of chancellor), there are no foreigners any longer in Germany, only "people with migration background" ..., this list of political correctness is endless - I ask a native German speaker to give me a political correct English translation for the former "Negerkuss" or even a former "Mohrenkopf" !!!). I don't intend to continue that list with our categories or search tags :)</put>
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@ mgr ~ Thanks so much for adding to this thread.
The term Caucasian is adequate for our purposes here me thinks. Perhaps we need to add some others as well. That remains for the future discussions of this subject I guess.
I personally hate labels in life but we can not, at this time is history, get away from such labeling. Like with the torrents, labels help us to define a subject at times. As long as a label is applied with out some hate attached then we must be content. It is the hate that is used with labels that is the evil here not the label itself.
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I believe this discussion is important because it could lead to something beyond racial categories or something better than ~Caucasians that means people who have traditionally associated those living in the Western part of the Northern Hemisphere.
...I support fully the above statement, that was the only thing intended by me.
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@Uwe:
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I believe this discussion is important because it could lead to something beyond racial categories or something better than ~Caucasians that means people who have traditionally associated those living in the Western part of the Northern Hemisphere.
...I support fully the above statement, that was the only thing intended by me.
If we all can agree that this discussion is only about category-names or search-tags and nobody intends to have a discussion about racism or something similar nor insists on his own understanding of political correntness which has to be applied also on gay-porn classification: Thank you guys - I can sleep a bit calmer in the future
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This is a wonderful tagging system and I enjoy using it. I never meant anything pejorative in suggesting the ~Caucasian tag. I suggested the tag out of necessity and its commonly understood meaning. What this conversation has always boiled down to me was the efficiency of a tag to index torrent content versus personal preference. ~Caucasian is not a perfect term. However, despite its heritage it's a very efficient tag for indexing the people commonly associated with its meaning.
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@mgr:
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I believe this discussion is important because it could lead to something beyond racial categories or something better than ~Caucasians that means people who have traditionally associated those living in the Western part of the Northern Hemisphere.
...I support fully the above statement, that was the only thing intended by me.
If we all can agree that this discussion is only about category-names or search-tags and nobody intends to have a discussion about racism or something similar nor insists on his own understanding of political correntness which has to be applied also on gay-porn classification: Thank you guys - I can sleep a bit calmer in the future
I always believed that's what we were discussing. We were attempting to illustrate our respective views and contrast how we could move forward. I think it would be great if we could use skin tone as tags but I don't know how efficient it would be. Blacks in Americas have a wonderful vocabulary for describing shades of skin tones. One of my favorites is called "redbone" which is a pinkish light-skinned African American. I don't know how to categorize Asians. The shade I think most of associate with yellow-skin is actually a mixture of olive skin and a light tan. Lots of light-skinned Hispanic have a similar shading.
As we evolve I'm sure we come up with something.
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i'm open to using terms such as white, latino, black, and the like. i wouldn't be too happy with as a tag, though. just my thought.
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Please post any additional tag suggestions here in this thread. We will consider your suggestion and after is is in our existing tables we will remove the posting in this thread
How about ~armpits tag ?
~armpits added
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My suggestions would be:
~speedos
~lycra
~glasses
~rubberthank you,
geraldall added to the list
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what about
~blondes
~redheads or ~gingerI really think that there are a few people out there - me included - who find those attributes appealing.
thank you, gerald
added all to the list
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:cheesy2:@leatherbear:
Both ~sneakers and ~socks are on the list now. >:D
:cheesy2:
:cheers:That's awesome. I have just been seeing these sneaker and sock videos, and I have to say, they give me quite a [size20pt]!!
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I know this thread is about tags more than categories, but I wasn't sure where else to post.
Would it be possible to suggest a new category for "Webcam"? I feel like none of the current categories really cover videos from all the Webcam sites like Chaturbate, Flirt4Free, cam4 that have become super popular in the past few years.
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Is it possible to download a definitive list?
I tried to use the print functionality on the original thread but it said it was disabled.
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Is it possible to download a definitive list?
I tried to use the print functionality on the original thread but it said it was disabled.
https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=13672.0
You could right-click on the page and use your browser's print function or you could create a document and copy and paste the tags into it.
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