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    What is the US Confederacy?

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    • K Offline
      Kekkaishi
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      and what is its relevance to today's times?
      Thanks.

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        raphjd Forum Administrator
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        There's a lot of stuff that goes into this topic and it would take forever to explain it all, so I'm just gonna hit the basics.

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        The Confederacy was the southern states where slavery was legal.    The south's economy (cotton, tobacco, etc) was very labor intensive and would have failed if slavery was outlawed.

        The Republicans used ending slavery as a way to end the stranglehold of the Democrats (also referred to as "Dixie-crats") had on the south.

        Democrats were the party of the KKK until at least the 1960s.

        Democrats of the 1960s (think LBJ) did more harm to blacks than anything since slavery ended.  Due to the way the welfare laws are written, it's better for single moms than for families with the father in the home.  Also, the more you breed, the more cash you get rolling in.

        Southern Pride is a mixed bag.  Liberals claim it's only ever about racism while ignoring the fact that a lot of blacks also have Southern Pride.

        NOTE:  Hemp was originally outlawed to protect the cotton industry.  It could be grown in most of the US, while cotton could only really be grown in the south.

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          Kekkaishi
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          @raphjd:

          There's a lot of stuff that goes into this topic and it would take forever to explain it all, so I'm just gonna hit the basics.

          +++++++

          The Confederacy was the southern states where slavery was legal.    The south's economy (cotton, tobacco, etc) was very labor intensive and would have failed if slavery was outlawed.

          The Republicans used ending slavery as a way to end the stranglehold of the Democrats (also referred to as "Dixie-crats") had on the south.

          Democrats were the party of the KKK until at least the 1960s.

          Democrats of the 1960s (think LBJ) did more harm to blacks than anything since slavery ended.   Due to the way the welfare laws are written, it's better for single moms than for families with the father in the home.   Also, the more you breed, the more cash you get rolling in.

          Southern Pride is a mixed bag.   Liberals claim it's only ever about racism while ignoring the fact that a lot of blacks also have Southern Pride.

          NOTE:  Hemp was originally outlawed to protect the cotton industry.   It could be grown in most of the US, while cotton could only really be grown in the south.

          Thanks!
          appreciate it!

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            JohnAllenson
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            Have to correct a couple of things.

            In 1776, all of the states of the USA had slavery.  Slavery persisted longer in the Southern states due to the economics of cotton plantations.  Slavery isn't something unique to Dixie.

            LARGELY, the wealthy in the South supported succession due to wanting to keep slavery.  Bu only a small percentage of the people in the South ever could afford slaves.  Many southerners who opposed slavery fought on the side of the Confederacy on the principle that the American Constitution supported the right for individual states to make their own decisions.

            The KKK may have been founded in the south but had wide appeal in different parts of the country.  Indiana had the highest percentage with 15% of its population having joined the second KKK.

            One large component of the North opposing slavery was the fact that the slave states were impeding American expansion to the West.  The demand was that for each free state added to the union a slave state also had to be added - but the vast amount of the potential area was not conducive for plantation slavery.  Brtain, which had completely banned slavery from 1843, was expanding to the Western as well as maintaining a strong hold on the Caribbean.  It was after the Civil War that the USA was able to exploit the Louisiana and Mexican purchases and purchased Alaska.

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              raphjd Forum Administrator
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              True, but 1776 was nearly 100 years before the Confederacy which is why I didn't mention it.

              According to the US Census in 1830, there were nearly 4,000 blacks who owned slaves.

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