UC Berkeley at it again
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Indeed is disturbing and disgusting, but it also shows how the Left failed to provide for American Society as a whole.
No disagreement there. In fairness, I don't know if anybody is going to ever be able to provide for "American Society as a whole". It's such a diverse body where we all have different goals, self-interests, values, etc. Somebody is always going to feel marginalized and pissed off. After 8 years of a Democratic president, the right and those wanting change at any cost wanted its turn no matter what and no matter how awful their Republican option was. We're ALL to blame for this mess (Left, Right, and those of us who are more neutral). It's the Kool-Aid drinkers that scare me though
The Left caters to certain minority groups, leaving others out.
Again, somebody is always going to get left out. The right leaves out almost like all the minority groups, which to me is even worse.
It is funny how, after Trump won, the memes and mockery from the so called liberals towards those they deem as 'white trash' peaked. My favorites are those who compare a 'liberal', all purdy and educated, and a 'conservative', basically a naked and starving hillbilly.
lol wat. I totally believe that even though I haven't seen any of those myself. Let's not get on our high horses. There's plenty of memes and mockery from both sides.
This only shows how entitled the Left is.
Both sides are entitled in their own way. Can we all be honest about that?
I see the 'privileged' mocking the 'unprivileged' to whom they haven't even tried to help.
The privileged right mocks the unprivileged left too, so again it goes both ways. Both sides should stop with the villainizing and exercise more compassion and understanding. Not just for the sake of morality, but because practically speaking, this does not help our country.
The rich Left only 'cares' about issues that make them look good, but they are as corrupt as Conservatives.
Some do it to look good, but the broadness of your statement is too cynical and inaccurate of a statement for me. There are a lot of big hearted educated rich Left individuals who really want to make this world a better place and genuinely care about the issues. Can they help everybody at once? No. I don't think they should be criticized, stereotyped, or resented for that.
And that is when demagogues kick in, when a side of the population feels so neglected, they will turn around 180º and vote for those who promise them anything better.
Yeah that's the part that is embarrassing and disturbing to me. We all saw how that worked out for Nazi Germany. But yeah, all of us dropped the ball by allowing Trump to even get close to the presidency.
It's just sad that out of ALL the people in the US, this was what we got! Really? Out of all the Republican and Democratic politicians (and even non-politicians)…the Trump supporters thought the demagogue throwing large segments of the American populace under the bus was the best bet for ALL Americans (or even for just themselves)?
I'll just say my view of the Presidency and the qualifications necessary for it have taken a MASSIVE hit this year lol. I mean we've had terrible Presidents in the past, so I guess I should've known better.
I'm actually less annoyed at Trump himself though and more disappointed in his enablers. Cutting the nose to spite the face just isn't the rational answer.
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If you paid attention, I'm a dual national US/UK. I happen to live in the UK currently.
It's also not just the US that has problems with the left. The western world is plagued with the scum.
In another current thread in this section, I'm being called a racist because I don't view everything as anti-black racism. The left can't have a rational discussion. To quote Anita Sarkeesian; Everything is racist, everything is sexist, everything is homophobic and you have to point it all out. UN Women and Jessica Valenti said that equality discriminates against women. This is the level of discussion you get from the left and if you disagree, they get hysterical and start calling you the most extreme names they can think of.
My disgust for the left is based solely on the actions of the left. It's as if you want me to believe that if I wasn't "emotional" then I would love the left.
As for Trump winning, it was a backlash for all the bullshit identity politics we'd been seeing over the last 15 years or so.
Despite the proof from his own Dept of Labor, Obama lied by claiming that the gender wage gap exists. He did this to appease feminists/SJWs. He race baited the entire BLM bullshit, even though FBI stats prove it's all a lie.
No matter which country it is, the left panders to feeling over truth.
The left justifies and advocates violence to stop speech they don't like.
The left, you included, want to limit free speech to exclude speech you don't like, but you don't want "wrong thinkers" to do the same to your speech.
The left has turned universities across the western world into expensive nursery schools.
The left thinks it's good to fine businesses $125,000 for mistaking Elliot Cope as a female, despite the fact that she is 100% physically female and presents 100% as female, but claims to be a transgender f2m. This is the law in NYC. It's soon to be the law in Canada.
I won't even go into Otherkin and Furries.
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In another current thread in this section, I'm being called a racist because I don't view everything as anti-black racism. The left can't have a rational discussion.
Says the guy who can't stop himself from constantly generalizing and villainizing the entire left CONSTANTLY.
My disgust for the left is based solely on the actions of the left. It's as if you want me to believe that if I wasn't "emotional" then I would love the left.
I can't control your unfounded assumptions. But i suppose that too is the left's fault.
No matter which country it is, the left panders to feeling over truth.
Discrimination is not just a feeling. It's a truth that impacts people like gays, and it's bizarre that you hate the political party that is doing much more to help prevent anti-gay policy and sentiment. Feel free to provide facts that this is not actually the case.
The left, you included, want to limit free speech to exclude speech you don't like, but you don't want "wrong thinkers" to do the same to your speech.
Well I'm specifically against hate speech like the type of shit Hitler pulled, but other than that, I'm still for free speech. Can you justify why we should enable and allow non-productive hate speech to flourish?
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Sorry, but it's the left's fault on how they are viewed.
Obama race baiting for BLM and spewing feminist lies despite the facts being there from his own administration. He either purposely lied of he was too stupid to ask for the facts from the various government departments.
Despite 100 FBI agents and nearly 20,000 pages of reports, the lie "hands up, don't shoot" is still being used by the left.
Don Lemon, Symone Sanders and many others downplaying the kidnapping in Chicago. The left media didn't cover it for 2 days. Only the local FOX station and so called "fake news" sites covered it right away.
It wasn't a conservative government in the UK that allowed over 1,400 young teen white girls to get raped by muslim men from Pakistan.
It isn't conservative countries that let off a muslim man for raping a 10yo boy because he had a "sexual emergency", claiming that because of cultural differences he didn't understand they boy didn't want it.
It's the left that ignores homeless men, while complaining that nothing is being done for homeless women. This despite claiming to be feminists, which is supposed to mean gender equality.
I noticed that you have been silent in the threads when we've discussed topics like these.
Like I say about feminists; if the majority of feminists are "good" feminists, then "good feminists" must mean sitting on their lazy asses and doing nothing. The same with the left.
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Obama race baiting for BLM and spewing feminist lies despite the facts being there from his own administration. He either purposely lied of he was too stupid to ask for the facts from the various government departments.
Alright dude, let's hear about how Obama race baited the BLM and was spewing feminist lies…
You're spewing Alex Jones / Breitbart / Alt Right crap now...
This line of conversation might work offline, but we are on the internet, we can just Google it.
You're just parroting the opinions of far-right writers. You seem to lack the ability of absorb information in an objective manner. You are not reading an opinion piece and asking yourself "Do I Agree With this Person's Opinion? Yes or No?" You are parroting their opinion as fact and seem to expect other people to know somebody else's opinion.
I consider myself to be pretty conservative, and I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
It's the left that ignores homeless men, while complaining that nothing is being done for homeless women. This despite claiming to be feminists, which is supposed to mean gender equality.
Seriously, what the hell are you talking about? I think you need to read up on the subject of political science, you are all over the place with generalizations, and are conflating the issues of different groups. You, over simplifying the issues, is likely due to your own lack of understanding of the subject. Being a feminist does not necessarily mean that a person is a liberal voter. You can most certainly be a feminist and a conservative…
Also, Obama isn't the President anymore... Are you ever going to stop whining about Obama? Get over it …
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Sorry, but it's the left's fault on how they are viewed.
Actually it's yours. Everybody has their choice on how much they want to prejudge, generalize, assume, etc. entire groups based on individual and collective experiences. Villainizing everybody else around you doesn't give you carte blanche for your (or your side's) faults.
I noticed that you have been silent in the threads when we've discussed topics like these.
If you're talking to me, it's because bad things happen every day, and I'd rather try to either understand a different point of view, understand where people are coming from, and/or comment on some obvious flaws and problems that they are themselves creating that they may not be aware of.
Like I say about feminists; if the majority of feminists are "good" feminists, then "good feminists" must mean sitting on their lazy asses and doing nothing. The same with the left.
Good feminists protested peacefully in Washington, work to educate the populace on feminist issues, act as living examples of the world they want to create, etc. Your inability to even "see," care, understand them, or acknowledge all the hard work they put in (which is resisted by a patriarchal system, the woefully ignorant, and the selfishly entitled) is actually the issue. But nothing is your fault of course. Everything bad happens due to the left!1!!1!
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Good feminists protested peacefully in Washington, work to educate the populace on feminist issues, act as living examples of the world they want to create, etc. Your inability to even "see," care, understand them, or acknowledge all the hard work they put in (which is resisted by a patriarchal system, the woefully ignorant, and the selfishly entitled) is actually the issue. But nothing is your fault of course. Everything bad happens due to the left!1!!1!
An excellent observation, it's a free country, if an ideological group wants to do that, good for them. I always encourage people to exercise their rights.
But the issue is actually, will their efforts make an impact. Some people will just deny reality rather than make an effort to understand.
Contrary to the belief of some, you can understand an issue and not agree with it. But you will look like an idiot if you attempt to argue the point, with out understanding the issue and there's a pretty clear case of that going on in this thread.
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I guess you either believe the gender wage gap exists, or you haven't paid attention to what the (now former) President says. He's also spewed many other feminist lies like the college rape lies.
Let's not forget how Obama race baited black deaths when if fact they were "clean kills" like Michael Brown in Ferguson.
It seems even "conservatives" are far left leaning now-a-days.
So who are the "good feminists" who marched on Washington? Was it the celebs with their bullshit rants or the crowd who cheered for them?
Fucking hell. We have an internet shrink and "patriarchy" screamer. Says it all.
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I guess you either believe the gender wage gap exists, or you haven't paid attention to what the (now former) President says. He's also spewed many other feminist lies like the college rape lies.
Let's not forget how Obama race baited black deaths when if fact they were "clean kills" like Michael Brown in Ferguson.
It seems even "conservatives" are far left leaning now-a-days.
So who are the "good feminists" who marched on Washington? Was it the celebs with their bullshit rants or the crowd who cheered for them?
Fucking hell. We have an internet shrink and "patriarchy" screamer. Says it all.
Dude Obama isn't the president anymore…
I'm really serious about this: You need like 30 days of snopes.com rehab. At the very least, stop listening to the opinion's of people who's job it is to entertain you.
It sounds like you are caught up really badly in the drudgereport.com / breitbart.com / infowars.com camp of bullshit infotainment.
Republicans control the house, the senate, and the presidency and you're rambling on about Obama and feminists…
I highly recommend you de-warp your brain, the election is over.
This ultra partisan garbage has lead you to believe that relatively normal people are now "left leaning" … No, I'm perfectly aware of reality, thank you. But, I think you may have gotten off track ...
Scientists and biologists have studied childbirth for years, they know that as soon as an egg is fertilized, a sequence of events occurs that leads to a person being born. This process starts at the moment of conception, a new unique DNA sequence is formed almost instantaneously. The pro abortion camp has created this false reality where, "They have a right to murder a person to protect their reproductive organ rights." Okay ... Uh ... Nobody is telling women they can't use their reproductive organs ... There are no mandatory sterilization policies in the US... That line of thought is bullshit ...
I've already discussed my feelings on both legal and illegal immigration and I'll reiterate: If people want job growth in 10 years, you either need to be pro regulation and for the restriction of automation, or against all immigration, at least until the real unemployment rate is ideally around 2%. This crap where companies import skilled workers just hurts Americans and saves the corporations money. According to the law, they have to pay the same amount as an American worker, but the problem is, that worker doesn't exist in America, so the company would be forced to hire multiple specialists or train new employees. Also, the wall is fucking stupid...
Many people do not understand basic economics, the government needs to cut spending and balance the budget. This used to be an issue that the Republicans used to be for, but I'm not sure if that's the case with this administration. If the US wants to be "Great Again" then the government needs to cut spending and keep the value of the US dollar high and put policies in place to decrease (or manage) inflation so the money you earn today will worth something in 25 years... The US wasted an astronomical amount of money to go fight the boogeyman in Iraq, it's not over, and we caused more problems that we solved (none)...
I'm also for protecting religious freedoms (even thought I think religion is bullshit), but the way the current bill is worded, it doesn't do that, it allows people who believe one or more of 3,000 different religions to arbitrarily discriminate against other people. In this country there is separation of church and state, operating a business relies upon entering an agreement with the government and obtaining a business license and potentially incorporating. (And to be fair if you have not done this, you are a second class citizen in the US.) So the current bill is dramatically blurring the lines of that separation, it doesn't make sense, and it's not even really effective at what it's suppose to do, protecting religious freedoms ... (Not to mention, exercising those religious freedom rights, would be totally counterproductive to the goals of the business.)
As far as energy goes, I'm 100% for completely eliminating the need for foreign oil. Democrats will say that it's bad for the environment and we need to move away from oil altogether, but the reality is, none of that noise does anything to reduce demand. So, somebody is going to drill it, it might as well be the US, so we can stop being held hostage by the oil cartels. But as far as bringing coal back ... You have to be kidding me... It's not happening. The market changed, solar is now cheaper than natural gas and much cheaper than coal, but the problem is limited production infrastructure (read: the robotic assembly lines are still being built.) No big investor is going to pump money into coal, it just isn't financially wise.
As far as global warming is concerned, I'm not a climate change scientist but I prefer not to breath smog, because it kills people. The US has already done enormous work to reduce air pollution and the alarmists will always forget to mention the scientific fact that water reacts with carbon dioxide, effectively removing carbon from the air. So, if people are concerned about Global Warming, great, I don't want to breath smog, and I know there's countries out there who seem to think it's healthy or something... The climate change alarmists need to get countries like China and India to clean up their act. When those countries are doing their part, if the scientists feel like that's not enough, I'll listen to their points when the time arises. But the US government forcing businesses to spend trillions of dollars to go green, makes no sense when the air is unbreathable in China. Emissions are up 400% in China over the past 15 years (doubling US emissions) and now the alarmists are screaming again, I think it's kind of obvious what the problem is. Send them to the country that produces 30% of the global emissions ...
Edit: Also, I didn't read it because I don't care, but apparently Milo is a pedo, or pro pedo, or something, and he should go home now.
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Obama was President when he said that shit.
I can't say that I've watched/read those sites, but nice try though.
I'm fully aware that the election is over. It doesn't mean that the left isn't still doing ignorant shit all over the western world.
Talcum X was hired by TYT after the election and they still maintain that he's actually black, despite the fact that it's been well proven that he's not. They maintain all of his lies, despite all of the evidence to prove he's nothing but a liar.
TYT still officially deny, due to Cenk being from Turkey, that the Armenian genocide happened.
CNN, like most of the media, massively downplayed the kidnapping in Chicago. We know they would have lost their shit if the races were reversed. Except for the local FOX station and what the left call "fake news" sites, the story was ignored for the first 2 days.
It's still the law that if if Elliot Cope walks into a business in NYC and they call her a girl, even though she is a girl and presents as a girl but insists she's a boy, the business will get fined $125,000 for ACCIDENTALLY getting her personal pronouns wrong. This type of shit law is coming to other places in the west.
In another thread, I'm being called a racist solely based on the fact that I pointed out that a black Congressman lied. I didn't comment on what happened 50 years ago, just something that happened a few months ago. That is enough to be called a racist.
No idea about Milo. I only saw that his book deal was killed, but didn't read the article.
Lena Dunham bragged in her book that she used to molester her younger sister.
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Obama was President when he said that shit.
I can't say that I've watched/read those sites, but nice try though.
I'm fully aware that the election is over. It doesn't mean that the left isn't still doing ignorant shit all over the western world.
Talcum X was hired by TYT after the election and they still maintain that he's actually black, despite the fact that it's been well proven that he's not. They maintain all of his lies, despite all of the evidence to prove he's nothing but a liar.
TYT still officially deny, due to Cenk being from Turkey, that the Armenian genocide happened.
CNN, like most of the media, massively downplayed the kidnapping in Chicago. We know they would have lost their shit if the races were reversed. Except for the local FOX station and what the left call "fake news" sites, the story was ignored for the first 2 days.
It's still the law that if if Elliot Cope walks into a business in NYC and they call her a girl, even though she is a girl and presents as a girl but insists she's a boy, the business will get fined $125,000 for ACCIDENTALLY getting her personal pronouns wrong. This type of shit law is coming to other places in the west.
In another thread, I'm being called a racist solely based on the fact that I pointed out that a black Congressman lied. I didn't comment on what happened 50 years ago, just something that happened a few months ago. That is enough to be called a racist.
No idea about Milo. I only saw that his book deal was killed, but didn't read the article.
Lena Dunham bragged in her book that she used to molester her younger sister.
You're getting the bullshit from somewhere. Who the fuck is Talcum X? When I google it, I get more results for baby powder. Okay so it's a dude who looks white to me, pretending to be black. Why the fuck do you care? What the hell does this have to do with anything? Why do you care about a Youtube channel? Anybody can go make a Youtube channel dude … #1 channel is a guy that makes weird noises and plays video games ... There's channels about ghosts and aliens and all sorts of other bullshit ...
As far as the main stream media filtering news to meet their agenda... Why does this bother you? Is this new to you or something? You're acting offended that the media doesn't run every story. You know, people and companies pay money to influence what is shown on the news... Not directly because there are laws regarding the amount of time that is allowed to be commercial compared to the amount of content. But, if I wanted to spread awareness about solar energy, but not directly dictate the content, there are agencies that specialize in that.
Same deal with the Chicago kidnapping story... Me personally, I read a headline like "Four Teens Held in Connection With Kidnapping After ‘Facebook Live’ Torture Video Airs" and think to myself "There's 300 plus million people in the country, do I really care about somebody getting kidnapped, an event that occurs every day? No... I don't." I can see why some super pac thought that story was a big deal and I'm sure there were dozens of PR specialists going into panic mode to get that story to run in the news.
No idea about that law in NY, sounds like a bad law if that's true.
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LOL, if you don't care about anything being discussed, then why are you in the thread? A bit odd, don't you think.
Umm, we discussed that NYC law, as well as Canada's C-16 law in another thread.
So to be clear, you don't pay attention because you don't care, but you feel the need to tell me off for caring and paying attention. That says you are either a liar or you are too concerned about me. Maybe I need to go into hiding.
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Where are all the Conservatives now? Doesn't Milo have a right to free speech? If he can promote racism why can't he promote pedophilia?
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Where are all the Conservatives now? Doesn't Milo have a right to free speech? If he can promote racism why can't he promote pedophilia?
Don't try to put racism and pedophilia at the same level, aadam. We can tolerate racism (we are all racist in one way or another - some are more willing to accept it than others) but pedophilia has zero tolerance.
Milo went too far, no matter if it was only for shock value or for real.
Also, what's with this reply?, I considered you thoughtful and articulate…
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LOL, if you don't care about anything being discussed, then why are you in the thread? A bit odd, don't you think.
Umm, we discussed that NYC law, as well as Canada's C-16 law in another thread.
So to be clear, you don't pay attention because you don't care, but you feel the need to tell me off for caring and paying attention. That says you are either a liar or you are too concerned about me. Maybe I need to go into hiding.
Sigh lost my reply. Oh well. Not retyping it. I'll keep it short.
#1 That's not what I said.
#2 You may have, I did not.
#3 I am concerned about a lot of people. You included.
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Where are all the Conservatives now? Doesn't Milo have a right to free speech? If he can promote racism why can't he promote pedophilia?
Don't try to put racism and pedophilia at the same level, aadam. We can tolerate racism (we are all racist in one way or another - some are more willing to accept it than others) but pedophilia has zero tolerance.
Milo went too far, no matter if it was only for shock value or for real.
Also, what's with this reply?, I considered you thoughtful and articulate…
So what about sexual assault? So called President Trump promoted sexual assault against WOMEN in his pussy grabbing tape. Sexual assault against a WOMAN is ok but conservatives draw the line at sexual assault teen MALES? It's an interesting line to draw.
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So what about sexual assault? So called President Trump promoted sexual assault against WOMEN in his pussy grabbing tape. Sexual assault against a WOMAN is ok but conservatives draw the line at sexual assault teen MALES? It's an interesting line to draw.
Honestly, the fact a person can interpret such stupid and vulgar remarks as promoting sexual assaults is just as bad as someone interpreting them to be a permit for sexual assaults.
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So what about sexual assault? So called President Trump promoted sexual assault against WOMEN in his pussy grabbing tape. Sexual assault against a WOMAN is ok but conservatives draw the line at sexual assault teen MALES? It's an interesting line to draw.
Honestly, the fact a person can interpret such stupid and vulgar remarks as promoting sexual assaults is just as bad as someone interpreting them to be a permit for sexual assaults.
Of course it is. He was giving Billy Bush advice. Bush was a young star at the time and he was letting him know that he can go around grabbing pussy because of the fact that he is a star. Bush even got fired for it and he barely said a word.
His words are not much different than what Milo said. The only difference is that conservatives don't believe that women are equal citizens and they don't care if they are sexually assaulted. They do protect the males though…..
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Umm, do you think that Trump is wrong that all kinds of women throw themselves at rich men?
Nobody wants women to be raped or sexually assaulted.
Males have virtually no protection. According to the way the FBI records crime stats, thanks to the feminist campaign RAPE IS RAPE, women can not rape men. This is the case in most of the western world, despite the feminist claims of gender equality.
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Umm, do you think that Trump is wrong that all kinds of women throw themselves at rich men?
Nobody wants women to be raped or sexually assaulted.
Males have virtually no protection. According to the way the FBI records crime stats, thanks to the feminist campaign RAPE IS RAPE, women can not rape men. This is the case in most of the western world, despite the feminist claims of gender equality.
Trump didn't say anything about women throwing themselves at him in the Billy Bush tape. You are making that up. He didn't even imply it.
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