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    • royalcrown89R Offline
      royalcrown89
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      Just learned that it's standard for whitehouse.gov to remove all pages associated with the previous president, so the LGBT page disappearing doesn't mean anything. Still, all eyes are on this administration. The election is over. Hillary Clinton did not win; therefore, Hillary Clinton is irrelevant at this point. Trump won and is our president which means everything he says and does is the action of the president, he does not get any passes. I do not care that the Republican base is anti-LGBT, he cannot afford to be anti-LGBT. He has practically no political capital and no honeymoon period due to his low approval rating (which ranges from 32-37% by many reputable sources, including Fox News/Pew). You may not believe in polls anymore but the reality of the low turnout at his inauguration is symbolic of his real support. There are blogs and other online groups dedicated to showing the thousands of regret posts on Twitter and Facebook by people who voted for him due to his billionaire Wall Street cabinet picks and his opinion changes since the election. He has no room for any mistakes like many other presidents have had. His best chance is to reflect policies based on what the majority of Americans support. If he or Pence or even the Republicans launch an assault on the LGBT community then they will be DONE.

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        amicusets
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        @royalcrown89:

        Just learned that it's standard for whitehouse.gov to remove all pages associated with the previous president, so the LGBT page disappearing doesn't mean anything. Still, all eyes are on this administration. The election is over. Hillary Clinton did not win; therefore, Hillary Clinton is irrelevant at this point. Trump won and is our president which means everything he says and does is the action of the president, he does not get any passes. I do not care that the Republican base is anti-LGBT, he cannot afford to be anti-LGBT. He has practically no political capital and no honeymoon period due to his low approval rating (which ranges from 32-37% by many reputable sources, including Fox News/Pew). You may not believe in polls anymore but the reality of the low turnout at his inauguration is symbolic of his real support. There are blogs and other online groups dedicated to showing the thousands of regret posts on Twitter and Facebook by people who voted for him due to his billionaire Wall Street cabinet picks and his opinion changes since the election. He has no room for any mistakes like many other presidents have had. His best chance is to reflect policies based on what the majority of Americans support. If he or Pence or even the Republicans launch an assault on the LGBT community then they will be DONE.

        What opinion changes? Name at least 2. Yesterday, even the liberal media had to concede his whole address boiled down to, "yep, I meant everything I said on the campaign."
        Keep living in the clouds if you think that he is somehow worried about those polls or what the dems or even the repubs think.

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          aadam101
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          I don't believe Trump will "attack" LGBT rights.  I dont think he cares.  I think he may do things for some purpose that may have unintended consequences on LGBT rights.  That's what we need to worry about.

          I do have concerns over Pence attacking gay rights after Trump is impeached but we can  cross that bridge in a few months after the impeachment.

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          • royalcrown89R Offline
            royalcrown89
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            @amicusets:

            @royalcrown89:

            Just learned that it's standard for whitehouse.gov to remove all pages associated with the previous president, so the LGBT page disappearing doesn't mean anything. Still, all eyes are on this administration. The election is over. Hillary Clinton did not win; therefore, Hillary Clinton is irrelevant at this point. Trump won and is our president which means everything he says and does is the action of the president, he does not get any passes. I do not care that the Republican base is anti-LGBT, he cannot afford to be anti-LGBT. He has practically no political capital and no honeymoon period due to his low approval rating (which ranges from 32-37% by many reputable sources, including Fox News/Pew). You may not believe in polls anymore but the reality of the low turnout at his inauguration is symbolic of his real support. There are blogs and other online groups dedicated to showing the thousands of regret posts on Twitter and Facebook by people who voted for him due to his billionaire Wall Street cabinet picks and his opinion changes since the election. He has no room for any mistakes like many other presidents have had. His best chance is to reflect policies based on what the majority of Americans support. If he or Pence or even the Republicans launch an assault on the LGBT community then they will be DONE.

            What opinion changes? Name at least 2. Yesterday, even the liberal media had to concede his whole address boiled down to, "yep, I meant everything I said on the campaign."
            Keep living in the clouds if you think that he is somehow worried about those polls or what the dems or even the repubs think.

            (1) "I'm going to drain the swamp" - Donald Trump, until he picked a Wall Street insider who foreclosed on an elderly woman for owing $.27 (27 freaking cents) as his nominee for Treasury Secretary, a billionaire (one who along with her brother donated a ton of cash to Trump's campaign) who doesn't even know how public schools function or are funded as his nominee for Education Secretary, and the owner of Hardee's/Carl's Jr. who is on record saying he opposes discrimination laws and would love to fire as many people as possible and replace them as robots to avoid paying wages to working people.

            (2) "I know more than the intelligence community," and, "The intelligence community is using Nazi tactics against me" - Donald Trump, until now; now he's kissing up to them and claiming, "I have your back."

            As for me living in the clouds, I didn't make up the millions of people marching in various cities around the country today. There were also marches around the world protesting against the man who was just inaugurated as the American president yesterday. He doesn't have to care about the polls, but elected officials do. Once he gets around 28% he'll become toxic and the Republican party will do to him what they did to George W. Bush. It's time for Trump to make some changes or this thing is about to get a lot worse. The only reason why I'm still holding on to a shred of hope is because they haven't attacked the LGBT community or made it official that LGBT families will no longer be accepted at official White House events or treated with respect. The moment we return to "there needs to be a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage" will be the moment I join millions of others in opposing the administration wholeheartedly.

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              aadam101
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              @royalcrown89:

              (1) "I'm going to drain the swamp" - Donald Trump, until he picked a Wall Street insider who foreclosed on an elderly woman for owing $.27 (27 freaking cents) as his nominee for Treasury Secretary, a billionaire (one who along with her brother donated a ton of cash to Trump's campaign) who doesn't even know how public schools function or are funded as his nominee for Education Secretary, and the owner of Hardee's/Carl's Jr. who is on record saying he opposes discrimination laws and would love to fire as many people as possible and replace them as robots to avoid paying wages to working people.

              Tom Price has also been accused of insider trading.  He made millions while in Congress.  He bought stock just days before he passed a bill that would make the company a lot of money.

              His education secretary pick wants guns allowed in schools in order to protect frrom grizzly bears…..... :afr:

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                remydrh
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                @Eridanos:

                Remember Trump is pure bravado, he might make incendiary comments concerning LGBT people to stay in the limelight or keep the Christian-Religious members of the Conservative party and their supporters happy.  Thing is that you distinguish words from actions and don't lose your cool.

                The problem isn't really Trump pe se, it's the fact he represents the pen to sign the laws of his party. A party that is now in control of all three branches of government.

                And his party is hell bent on turning the clock back. If he was presented with a law, not unlike "Religious Freedom", do you think he would veto it? I find it unlikely he would refuse to sign it.

                So, like people that like to complain that Obama didn't accomplish as much as he said he would: It's Congress that's the problem. The President doesn't make laws, he signs them, let's them lapse into law (10 days), or vetos it.

                This is why the hullaballoo over Presidential Elections is misplaced. Congressional Elections are probably multiple times more important.

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                  upNXT
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                  Continue? Who here should have been supporting them this far?! I have never, am not, will never support such a vile man and denounce most of what he stands for, his ideology, his….crazy. Shame on anyone still throwing support behind him...especially from our community. And since I'm thinking about it, they already have launched an attack on our rights--I think we can all agree that women's rights (lets not forget about our gay sisters), gay rights, funding for the arts, truth & justice, fair treatment of minorities, etc etc etc all go hand in hand with LGBT issues.

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                  • royalcrown89R Offline
                    royalcrown89
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                    @upNXT:

                    Continue? Who here should have been supporting them this far?! I have never, am not, will never support such a vile man and denounce most of what he stands for, his ideology, his….crazy. Shame on anyone still throwing support behind him...especially from our community. And since I'm thinking about it, they already have launched an attack on our rights--I think we can all agree that women's rights (lets not forget about our gay sisters), gay rights, funding for the arts, truth & justice, fair treatment of minorities, etc etc etc all go hand in hand with LGBT issues.

                    I wanted to be different than the Republicans who behaved downright disgusting towards President Obama. I wanted to keep believing that when the president succeeds, we all succeed. I no longer hold that belief now because I truly do not believe Trump has any of our best interests at heart. He has no heart. He has no soul, as far as I'm concerned. #45* is #NotMyPresident.

                    *awaiting his impeachment (along with now nearly 60% of the country)

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                      remydrh
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                      The only problem with impeachment is that Pence is next. And after Pence, Ryan.

                      It's a long ways to go before you actually remove the bigots. It would be great to get a Republican that can say "gay" in a positive or at least neutral way without their face contorting like they swallowed a fly.

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                        Squall41269
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                        ….Continue? ... I Didn't support them in the first place and I REFUSE to support them. Trump is a lying, narcissistic, climate change denying,  ego maniac who thinks he's right and everyone else is wrong.

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