4 in custody after mentally disabled man tied up, tortured on Facebook Live
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mentally disabled Trump supporter
isn't that a bit redundant?
also this is minuscule compared to the things whites have done to nonwhites so it's not that big of a deal.
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@raphjd Not sure what you've been reading, but I've been seeing this story everywhere. You're also wrong about President Obama, he called this situation disgusting. It is disgusting and I'm so grateful that the four people who committed this hateful act have been arrested. However, it is worth noting that they actually were arrested and no one had to march or beg the authorities to investigate. It's sad but we all know had this been four white people attacking a black disabled teen, thousands of black and white people (disabled and able-bodied) would've had to march just to get investigation started and then get the NAACP involved to actually pressure the authorities into charging the attackers. When James Byrd, Jr. was murdered by those white supremacists, it took the federal government headed by Bill Clinton at the time to get justice for the hate crime that took his life, and it took a lot of people getting involved to have the white men charged. The state of Texas barely wanted to do an investigation. And he was decapitated by those white supremacists, not just beaten. You can deny it but we've just witnessed situations within the past few years where black and other people of color have been attacked and it has taken the action of protesters to get charges filed, even in situations where camera footage is present. With that being said, this situation is awful and once again thank goodness the criminals who committed it have actually been arrested and charged with hate crimes.
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I'm grateful that this teen is alive after this vicious attack. Too bad the same can't be said about the 9 innocent black lives taken in my home state by white pride activist Dylann Roof. They're dead and there will be no coming back or healing for them. My state still hasn't built a case ready for trial for him either. The federal government had to prosecute him whereas the state was ready to let him out on $1 million bail, which the KKK and various other white pride groups raised for him quickly.
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mentally disabled Trump supporter
isn't that a bit redundant?
also this is minuscule compared to the things whites have done to nonwhites so it's not that big of a deal.
WOW, you are a nasty piece of crap. Also, we have no evidence that the victim is a Trump supporter.
If you want to talk about which race does what to whom, then we could easily have that conversation in another thread.
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The crime was committed by the guilty people, regardless of race, or age or gender. We don't need to condemn everyone for the actions of some.
Would you be saying that if the races were reversed?
It also shows how the Hillary side is extremely violent and we aren't seeing these kinds of stories, that are true, from the other side.
It's also showing a major pattern of blacks attacking whites.
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@raphjd Not sure what you've been reading, but I've been seeing this story everywhere.
YEAH, it only became a news story at least 12 hours after the local Fox station reported it.
You're also wrong about President Obama, he called this situation disgusting.
His assistant Press Secretary did. When did Obama? "I'm sure he would agree" by the APS isn't the same as Obama saying it. Did Obama race bait it like he does when the races are reversed?
It is disgusting and I'm so grateful that the four people who committed this hateful act have been arrested. However, it is worth noting that they actually were arrested and no one had to march or beg the authorities to investigate. It's sad but we all know had this been four white people attacking a black disabled teen, thousands of black and white people (disabled and able-bodied) would've had to march just to get investigation started and then get the NAACP involved to actually pressure the authorities into charging the attackers.
Do you mean like Tawana Brawley?
When James Byrd, Jr. was murdered by those white supremacists, it took the federal government headed by Bill Clinton at the time to get justice for the hate crime that took his life, and it took a lot of people getting involved to have the white men charged. The state of Texas barely wanted to do an investigation. And he was decapitated by those white supremacists, not just beaten.
I lived in Houston at the time and I think you have a distorted view of the case to fit your narrative. He as decapitated as part of the dragging behind the truck.
It was the Jasper County DA that called in the feds because the suspects were known white supremacists. The FBI is best suited at these types of crimes.
You can deny it but we've just witnessed situations within the past few years where black and other people of color have been attacked and it has taken the action of protesters to get charges filed, even in situations where camera footage is present. With that being said, this situation is awful and once again thank goodness the criminals who committed it have actually been arrested and charged with hate crimes.
Are you referring to the cases where it was black on black crime and no one is cooperating with the police? It's always fun watching blacks getting pissing about the lack of police solving crimes in black areas, while blacks refuse to cooperate with investigations.
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I'm grateful that this teen is alive after this vicious attack. Too bad the same can't be said about the 9 innocent black lives taken in my home state by white pride activist Dylann Roof. They're dead and there will be no coming back or healing for them. My state still hasn't built a case ready for trial for him either. The federal government had to prosecute him whereas the state was ready to let him out on $1 million bail, which the KKK and various other white pride groups raised for him quickly.
He was convicted on all charges. So what are you talking about? Wednesday, 4 Jan 2017, was the start of the sentencing phase.
According to Wikipedia, he is also awaiting trial in South Carolina. He's also the 1st person in the US to be facing the death penalty in both state and federal court on the same charges.
He was originally to be tried in South Carolina, but the feds pushed in and got their case first.
Please do a bit of research before you make all these racist conspiracy theories.
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the more I read about raphjd the more I like him ;D
I'v been attacked 4 times in my life from 18-28. always blacks. Once they were 6 against me. punched me kicked me in stomach and back made me bleed, stole all from me. People were just watching. the others times knives under the throat. I dont even say a thing and I dont even feel danger because of being autistic so.. I know. -
The crime was committed by the guilty people, regardless of race, or age or gender. We don't need to condemn everyone for the actions of some.
Would you be saying that if the races were reversed?
It also shows how the Hillary side is extremely violent and we aren't seeing these kinds of stories, that are true, from the other side.
It's also showing a major pattern of blacks attacking whites.
Yes, in fact I definitely would. This crime is no more or less disgusting if it were committed by whatever race, or gender or whatnot. That's my point. It's a horrible act and the guilty PEOPLE should be condemned and jailed. White or Black or whatever race they happen to be.
It's as ridiculous as saying all Christians hate gay people because of the actions/statements of some. Or saying that all Muslims are terrorists just because some are. That would be an absurd generalization that just incites hatred and creates an Us vs Them mentality.
To make my point another way- it's like saying all dogs should be put down because one particular dog bit someone. -
@brianboru72 the trouble is more complex : example here : not all muslim are terrorists of course, just what you said but you forgot that all terrorists on our soil are indeed muslim sooo… one see the glass half empty one see the glass half filled....
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@gaypraha2 I sympathize with your terrible experience having been attacked on several occasions by Black people. In a way, I can understand why you feel the way you do.
But the point I'm making is that we need to avoid over-generalizing because it's just plain wrong and contributes to an atmosphere of fear and hate. And that's something none of us want. At least no reasonable person would want. It's not about half empty or half full glasses- it's about placing blame on the right people and not spreading it to others just because they happen to have the same skin color.
Case in point- did I understand you right in that you are saying ALL terrorists on your soil are Muslim? What about Timothy McVeigh? He wasn't Muslim.
Also- since this was about avoiding making things about race- the point I'm making is that it would be a terrible mistake to condemn all the members of an entire race based on the actions of a few. Let's stick to the facts- These X people are guilty of a crime and that's it. They should answer for it, no more no less. -
did I understand you right in that you are saying ALL terrorists on your soil are Muslim?
I'm french. more than 200 peoples , priest in church and all died by the hand of only muslim here in the last 2-3 years. indeed ALL are.
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did I understand you right in that you are saying ALL terrorists on your soil are Muslim?
I'm french. more than 200 peoples , priest in church and all died by the hand of only muslim here in the last 2-3 years. indeed ALL are.
Alright then, so if we take that statement and truth at face value- what's the point you want to make? Do you want to kick out all Muslims from your country to make sure there are no more terrorists then? Do you want all Muslims in your country to be under constant monitoring? Regardless of whether they are guilty or not? Are you saying that only Muslims are capable of committing terrorist acts in your country?
That's the problem with profiling- you can wind up condemning all the people whether or not they're guilty of anything.
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I'm not saying anything like that. I'm just pointing out that things are way more complicated that you seem to think . that is my point nothing more.
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In fact what I'm saying is: why are people making this more complicated than it HAS to be? The 4 people are guilty of a hate crime. They should be condemned, and punished, no question. That's it- end of story. The mistake is expanding it to include everyone else with the same skin color. THAT is complicating it pointlessly.
Again- if a (white/black/insert color here) person robbed your house, and you catch him. Does his skin color mean all persons of that color should be condemned because of his actions?
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because what you are missing here and probably because we live in very different countries: the sub problem about that is immigration and how well or bad we failed to integrate these people. Immigration from africa is quite new over here . every country has its own history and culture, you cant copy/paste ways of thinking to every country just like that.
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First- let me say that I appreciate that you engage in a rational manner without letting emotions take over. I tend to avoid/be wary of these political threads because they tend to devolve quickly into name calling, outbursts, thumbs downs and general ill will.
Yes we come from different countries, and immigration is not as big an issue for us over here as it is for many Western countries. I understand that- and yes there are clashes of culture- and to be clear- I agree that it's the responsibility of the immigrants to adjust and adapt to the place they have chosen to live in. While the natives would try to teach them, and help them adjust. No problems there.
The problem comes in when we fall into the trap of overgeneralizing. The point I've been trying to make is that laws are laws no matter what country you are in- and you need to follow the laws of the land. And the guilty should be punished- if a person breaks the law (whether you're an immigrant or not) you answer for it and pay the price. Just the guilty person. NOT everyone else who happens to share their ethnicity/race/gender or whatnot.
That's all I'm saying. Don't expand the criminal act of SOME, and use it to condemn ALL.
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you answer for it and pay the price.
trouble is although law should be the same for all it's not. judges are way too merciful if your profile fit their political views (aka ethnicity, most judge are leftist over here) hence people get angry. you get huge difference of punishment for acts based on who committed them. So that nourishes hate of course.
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@gaypraha2 I sympathize with your terrible experience having been attacked on several occasions by Black people. In a way, I can understand why you feel the way you do.
But the point I'm making is that we need to avoid over-generalizing because it's just plain wrong and contributes to an atmosphere of fear and hate. And that's something none of us want. At least no reasonable person would want. It's not about half empty or half full glasses- it's about placing blame on the right people and not spreading it to others just because they happen to have the same skin color.
Case in point- did I understand you right in that you are saying ALL terrorists on your soil are Muslim? What about Timothy McVeigh? He wasn't Muslim.
Also- since this was about avoiding making things about race- the point I'm making is that it would be a terrible mistake to condemn all the members of an entire race based on the actions of a few. Let's stick to the facts- These X people are guilty of a crime and that's it. They should answer for it, no more no less.YET, I have to suffer from extreme white guilt or I'm a racist because of what a small portion of the white population (KKK) did.
Blacks don't have to suffer from black guilt for anything someone black does. Can we say HYPOCRITICAL?
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That's all I'm saying. Don't expand the criminal act of SOME, and use it to condemn ALL.
Feminists use/used an analogy to show why ALL men are never to be trusted;
There's a bowl of M&Ms on the table and 10% of them are poison. Are you willing to take a handful and eat them?
When this got used against muslims, SJWs of all ilks lost their minds.
There is also a pattern of violence from the left, that we don't see coming from the right. Not only is there a pattern of violence coming from the left, there is also a pattern of falsely claiming to be a victim of right-wing violence.
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