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    • raphjdR Offline
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      @alibix:

      @Eridanos:

      @alibix:

      Has anyone ever asked you to refer to them as 'Xer' or 'Xel'?

      Maybe that's why I find the pronoun thing utterly stupid.  And giving more thought to it, is almost self-segregating, since you're putting yourself apart from the others on the basis of your sexual identity.

      That's why barely anyone fucking asks people that! Because it is counter-productive The vast majority of trans people just want to be called 'him' or 'her' when they identify as 'him' or 'her'.

      And yet, we have Canada's Bill C-16.

      Blair White, well known Trans YouTuber, get called all kinds of names because she doesn't support all that BS gender crap.

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        @Domosuke:

        I can't say I'm really shocked at the clusterfuck of this thread.

        You would think that a message board centered around gay pornography would be open minded to people that are different from them, but no. I already envisioned this whole thread panned out which is why I've been avoiding it for a few days now. I can hold back no longer.

        You would think a bunch of homosexual (or same gender attracted men) would understand issues like this. But I totally see it now.

        Anything to take the heat off their skillet or the weight off their scale to move it to somewhere else. Which just makes the situation worse.

        This is turn creates a butterfly effect for people to either become "SJW", or for people to become the oppressors. It makes the situation worse and everything is a pity party now. Nobody is appreciate for what they have, nobody wishes to or wants to empathize anymore,

        I'm not nessarily a "SJW", but I'm not going to bite my tongue on things which are clearly not right.

        Call me an "SJW" for saying that gay porn is racist, especially to black people. Call me an "SJW" for saying that men should be allowed to wear makeup and dresses. Call me an "SJW" for saying that Muslim women have the right to wear a burka or not.  I don't give a fuck.

        "same gender attracted men"    That sounds extremely familiar.

        That's what the black supremacists call being gay, because "gay" is what the "toilet complectioned cave beasts" are.  Or some shit like that.

        "UHURU, YA'LL" as YouTube's black Hitler would say.

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          @Domosuke:

          I can't say I'm really shocked at the clusterfuck of this thread.

          You would think that a message board centered around gay pornography would be open minded to people that are different from them, but no. I already envisioned this whole thread panned out which is why I've been avoiding it for a few days now. I can hold back no longer.

          You would think a bunch of homosexual (or same gender attracted men) would understand issues like this. But I totally see it now.

          Anything to take the heat off their skillet or the weight off their scale to move it to somewhere else. Which just makes the situation worse.

          This is turn creates a butterfly effect for people to either become "SJW", or for people to become the oppressors. It makes the situation worse and everything is a pity party now. Nobody is appreciate for what they have, nobody wishes to or wants to empathize anymore,

          I'm not nessarily a "SJW", but I'm not going to bite my tongue on things which are clearly not right.

          Call me an "SJW" for saying that gay porn is racist, especially to black people. Call me an "SJW" for saying that men should be allowed to wear makeup and dresses. Call me an "SJW" for saying that Muslim women have the right to wear a burka or not.  I don't give a fuck.

          I don't think you should be surprised. Most of the people on this site are old white guys who have lived their entire lives pretending to be straight (aka they've lived under hetero white cis male privilege). While others (ie SJWs) were advancing rights for gay people, trans people, etc they were still acting like teenagers and repressing their sexuality. These people have never experienced discrimination due to their sexual orientation let alone gender or race and probably aren't even out. They hang out on these torrent websites to download porn because they are too afraid to even find someone to have sex with in real life.

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            @bob5678:

            I don't think you should be surprised. Most of the people on this site are old white guys who have lived their entire lives pretending to be straight (aka they've lived under hetero white cis male privilege). While others (ie SJWs) were advancing rights for gay people, trans people, etc they were still acting like teenagers and repressing their sexuality. These people have never experienced discrimination due to their sexual orientation let alone gender or race and probably aren't even out. They hang out on these torrent websites to download porn because they are too afraid to even find someone to have sex with in real life.

            LOL.  You are funny.

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              alibix
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              @raphjd:

              @alibix:

              @Eridanos:

              @alibix:

              Has anyone ever asked you to refer to them as 'Xer' or 'Xel'?

              Maybe that's why I find the pronoun thing utterly stupid.  And giving more thought to it, is almost self-segregating, since you're putting yourself apart from the others on the basis of your sexual identity.

              That's why barely anyone fucking asks people that! Because it is counter-productive The vast majority of trans people just want to be called 'him' or 'her' when they identify as 'him' or 'her'.

              And yet, we have Canada's Bill C-16.

              Blair White, well known Trans YouTuber, get called all kinds of names because she doesn't support all that BS gender crap.

              When a trans person put someone in jail for refusing to call themselves a made up pronoun then I'll suck your dick and admit defeat. It's not going to fucking happen though because that's not what the bill is about.

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                @alibix:

                @raphjd:

                @alibix:

                @Eridanos:

                @alibix:

                Has anyone ever asked you to refer to them as 'Xer' or 'Xel'?

                Maybe that's why I find the pronoun thing utterly stupid.  And giving more thought to it, is almost self-segregating, since you're putting yourself apart from the others on the basis of your sexual identity.

                That's why barely anyone fucking asks people that! Because it is counter-productive The vast majority of trans people just want to be called 'him' or 'her' when they identify as 'him' or 'her'.

                And yet, we have Canada's Bill C-16.

                Blair White, well known Trans YouTuber, get called all kinds of names because she doesn't support all that BS gender crap.

                When a trans person put someone in jail for refusing to call themselves a made up pronoun then I'll suck your dick and admit defeat. It's not going to fucking happen though because that's not what the bill is about.

                Seriously, no thanks.

                Umm, why do you demand that C-16 isn't bad because there isn't jail time attached to it?    The financial punishments, as well as other punitive measure, make it extremely harsh punishment for not using someone's made up personal pronouns.

                I guess littering isn't a crime because it doesn't have a jail sentence attached to it.    Like with C-16, you only get jail time is if you refuse to pay the fines.

                Jaywalking is a crime that only has a fine, unless like above, you refuse to pay it.  OR, your jaywalking caused an accident.

                Refusal to pay a fine is treated as an attempt of court issue, which is where the jail time comes in.

                So stop fixating on the lack of a jail/prison sentence in C-16.

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                  BloodySunday
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                  @raphjd:

                  Ok, other than spouting the feminist dogma, what have you done for TRUE gender equality?

                  Have you campaigned to get equal funding for prostate cancer, that breast cancer gets since their rates are virtually identical?   I doubt it.

                  Have you campaigned for gender equality in the UK court system, so judges are forced to comply with UK equality laws?  I doubt it.

                  I'm going to say that as a feminist, you haven't done anything to help men become equal to women.

                  Ah, yes. You went with the true one.
                  That's what I thought.

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                  • raphjdR Offline
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                    I'm not going to repost examples of female privielges that feminists have fought for, you can go back and look at them yourself.

                    I gave you 2 exampes, which you couldn't respond to because you haven't done anything to further TRUE gender equality.  You have only done things to further the faux…, er umm, ..... feminist version of gender equality.

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                      BloodySunday
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                      What did I say, that makes you think I did something in one way or the other?

                      All I did was saying that I'm a feminist.

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                      • raphjdR Offline
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                        30 years of debating feminists tells me that either you are a female special rights feminist or a sofa feminist who claims to support true gender equality but actually does nothing about it.

                        So tell me, which are you?

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                          BloodySunday
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                          Neither.

                          Two days of reading your highly-intellectual quality work here tells me that either you are a male special rights meminist or a sofa meminist who claims to support true gender equality but actually does nothing about it.

                          So tell me, which are you?

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                            alibix
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                            @raphjd:

                            @alibix:

                            @raphjd:

                            @alibix:

                            @Eridanos:

                            @alibix:

                            Has anyone ever asked you to refer to them as 'Xer' or 'Xel'?

                            Maybe that's why I find the pronoun thing utterly stupid.  And giving more thought to it, is almost self-segregating, since you're putting yourself apart from the others on the basis of your sexual identity.

                            That's why barely anyone fucking asks people that! Because it is counter-productive The vast majority of trans people just want to be called 'him' or 'her' when they identify as 'him' or 'her'.

                            And yet, we have Canada's Bill C-16.

                            Blair White, well known Trans YouTuber, get called all kinds of names because she doesn't support all that BS gender crap.

                            When a trans person put someone in jail for refusing to call themselves a made up pronoun then I'll suck your dick and admit defeat. It's not going to fucking happen though because that's not what the bill is about.

                            Seriously, no thanks.

                            Umm, why do you demand that C-16 isn't bad because there isn't jail time attached to it?    The financial punishments, as well as other punitive measure, make it extremely harsh punishment for not using someone's made up personal pronouns.

                            I guess littering isn't a crime because it doesn't have a jail sentence attached to it.    Like with C-16, you only get jail time is if you refuse to pay the fines.

                            Jaywalking is a crime that only has a fine, unless like above, you refuse to pay it.   OR, your jaywalking caused an accident.

                            Refusal to pay a fine is treated as an attempt of court issue, which is where the jail time comes in.

                            So stop fixating on the lack of a jail/prison sentence in C-16.

                            Show me who has been fined for refusing to call someone by their preferred pronoun. Please, show me.

                            You won't find ANY because that's not what the bill is about.

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                              C-16 hasn't been passed yet, so of course no one has been fined under it.   Fucking DUH!!!!

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                                https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/05/17/you-can-be-fined-for-not-calling-people-ze-or-hir-if-thats-the-pronoun-they-demand-that-you-use/?utm_term=.7d65728780c7

                                https://www1.nyc.gov/site/cchr/law/legal-guidances-gender-identity-expression.page

                                New York City fines (up to $250,000 per violation) for refusal to use any personal pronoun a person wants to use.  Of course, it covers other things as well, but the most recent change was about bathrooms and personal pronouns and names. .

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                                  alibix
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                                  @raphjd:

                                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/05/17/you-can-be-fined-for-not-calling-people-ze-or-hir-if-thats-the-pronoun-they-demand-that-you-use/?utm_term=.7d65728780c7

                                  https://www1.nyc.gov/site/cchr/law/legal-guidances-gender-identity-expression.page

                                  New York City fines (up to $250,000 per violation) for refusal to use any personal pronoun a person wants to use.   Of course, it covers other things as well, but the most recent change was about bathrooms and personal pronouns and names. .

                                  So where is the person who has been fined for using the incorrect pronoun?

                                  Also, I can't believe you won't accept that you're over exaggerating the fuck out of the C-16 Bill but let's agree to disagree because it's clear that you'll never change your mind on this.

                                  I wonder if you wake up in cold shivers at night thinking of the purple haired 'Zes' and 'Zers' kicking down your door and cutting of the tongues of however dares to not say the right pro noun. That's probably a bit extreme but hey, the internet tells me that western society is being burnt down by syrian refugees, crazy feminists, SJWs, people from tumblr, black lives matter etc so what do I fucking know?

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                                    inkball
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                                    @bob5678:

                                    @Domosuke:

                                    I can't say I'm really shocked at the clusterfuck of this thread.

                                    You would think that a message board centered around gay pornography would be open minded to people that are different from them, but no. I already envisioned this whole thread panned out which is why I've been avoiding it for a few days now. I can hold back no longer.

                                    You would think a bunch of homosexual (or same gender attracted men) would understand issues like this. But I totally see it now.

                                    Anything to take the heat off their skillet or the weight off their scale to move it to somewhere else. Which just makes the situation worse.

                                    This is turn creates a butterfly effect for people to either become "SJW", or for people to become the oppressors. It makes the situation worse and everything is a pity party now. Nobody is appreciate for what they have, nobody wishes to or wants to empathize anymore,

                                    I'm not nessarily a "SJW", but I'm not going to bite my tongue on things which are clearly not right.

                                    Call me an "SJW" for saying that gay porn is racist, especially to black people. Call me an "SJW" for saying that men should be allowed to wear makeup and dresses. Call me an "SJW" for saying that Muslim women have the right to wear a burka or not.  I don't give a fuck.

                                    I don't think you should be surprised. Most of the people on this site are old white guys who have lived their entire lives pretending to be straight (aka they've lived under hetero white cis male privilege). While others (ie SJWs) were advancing rights for gay people, trans people, etc they were still acting like teenagers and repressing their sexuality. These people have never experienced discrimination due to their sexual orientation let alone gender or race and probably aren't even out. They hang out on these torrent websites to download porn because they are too afraid to even find someone to have sex with in real life.

                                    This is the most insightful post in the thread so far. Even though misogyny is a major factor in homophobia and anti-gay hatred, many gay men do not make the connection or examine the role of sexism in their own lives.

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                                    • raphjdR Offline
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                                      @alibix:

                                      @raphjd:

                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/05/17/you-can-be-fined-for-not-calling-people-ze-or-hir-if-thats-the-pronoun-they-demand-that-you-use/?utm_term=.7d65728780c7

                                      https://www1.nyc.gov/site/cchr/law/legal-guidances-gender-identity-expression.page

                                      New York City fines (up to $250,000 per violation) for refusal to use any personal pronoun a person wants to use.   Of course, it covers other things as well, but the most recent change was about bathrooms and personal pronouns and names. .

                                      So where is the person who has been fined for using the incorrect pronoun?

                                      Also, I can't believe you won't accept that you're over exaggerating the fuck out of the C-16 Bill but let's agree to disagree because it's clear that you'll never change your mind on this.

                                      I wonder if you wake up in cold shivers at night thinking of the purple haired 'Zes' and 'Zers' kicking down your door and cutting of the tongues of however dares to not say the right pro noun. That's probably a bit extreme but hey, the internet tells me that western society is being burnt down by syrian refugees, crazy feminists, SJWs, people from tumblr, black lives matter etc so what do I fucking know?

                                      C-16 hasn't passed yet, so of course, you no one can be punished under it.

                                      HOWEVER, I did show that NYC made it illegal to use the wrong personal pronouns.    Funny how you are still acting like it's all made up despite me linking the webpage that spells it out.

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                                        @BloodySunday:

                                        Neither.

                                        Two days of reading your highly-intellectual quality work here tells me that either you are a male special rights meminist or a sofa meminist who claims to support true gender equality but actually does nothing about it.

                                        So tell me, which are you?

                                        Funny how feminists can never show any campaigns they have done to benefit men.    When I list feminist campaigns, they have nothing but name calling.

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                                          raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                          @inkball:

                                          @bob5678:

                                          @Domosuke:

                                          I can't say I'm really shocked at the clusterfuck of this thread.

                                          You would think that a message board centered around gay pornography would be open minded to people that are different from them, but no. I already envisioned this whole thread panned out which is why I've been avoiding it for a few days now. I can hold back no longer.

                                          You would think a bunch of homosexual (or same gender attracted men) would understand issues like this. But I totally see it now.

                                          Anything to take the heat off their skillet or the weight off their scale to move it to somewhere else. Which just makes the situation worse.

                                          This is turn creates a butterfly effect for people to either become "SJW", or for people to become the oppressors. It makes the situation worse and everything is a pity party now. Nobody is appreciate for what they have, nobody wishes to or wants to empathize anymore,

                                          I'm not nessarily a "SJW", but I'm not going to bite my tongue on things which are clearly not right.

                                          Call me an "SJW" for saying that gay porn is racist, especially to black people. Call me an "SJW" for saying that men should be allowed to wear makeup and dresses. Call me an "SJW" for saying that Muslim women have the right to wear a burka or not.  I don't give a fuck.

                                          I don't think you should be surprised. Most of the people on this site are old white guys who have lived their entire lives pretending to be straight (aka they've lived under hetero white cis male privilege). While others (ie SJWs) were advancing rights for gay people, trans people, etc they were still acting like teenagers and repressing their sexuality. These people have never experienced discrimination due to their sexual orientation let alone gender or race and probably aren't even out. They hang out on these torrent websites to download porn because they are too afraid to even find someone to have sex with in real life.

                                          This is the most insightful post in the thread so far. Even though misogyny is a major factor in homophobia and anti-gay hatred, many gay men do not make the connection or examine the role of sexism in their own lives.

                                          I love the lunatics that scream that anyone who doesn't blindly worship feminism is a woman hater.

                                          Of course, the clueless believers don't realize that most people don't subscribe to their religion for the reasons I have said in various posts.

                                          TRUE gender equality is soo evil and woman hating.  GOSH, I'm so grateful that the feminists have finally put me in my place.

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                                            alibix
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                                            @raphjd:

                                            @alibix:

                                            @raphjd:

                                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/05/17/you-can-be-fined-for-not-calling-people-ze-or-hir-if-thats-the-pronoun-they-demand-that-you-use/?utm_term=.7d65728780c7

                                            https://www1.nyc.gov/site/cchr/law/legal-guidances-gender-identity-expression.page

                                            New York City fines (up to $250,000 per violation) for refusal to use any personal pronoun a person wants to use.   Of course, it covers other things as well, but the most recent change was about bathrooms and personal pronouns and names. .

                                            So where is the person who has been fined for using the incorrect pronoun?

                                            Also, I can't believe you won't accept that you're over exaggerating the fuck out of the C-16 Bill but let's agree to disagree because it's clear that you'll never change your mind on this.

                                            I wonder if you wake up in cold shivers at night thinking of the purple haired 'Zes' and 'Zers' kicking down your door and cutting of the tongues of however dares to not say the right pro noun. That's probably a bit extreme but hey, the internet tells me that western society is being burnt down by syrian refugees, crazy feminists, SJWs, people from tumblr, black lives matter etc so what do I fucking know?

                                            C-16 hasn't passed yet, so of course, you no one can be punished under it.

                                            HOWEVER, I did show that NYC made it illegal to use the wrong personal pronouns.    Funny how you are still acting like it's all made up despite me linking the webpage that spells it out.

                                            I'm not saying it's made up ffs stop staying shit I DIDN'T SAY.

                                            I asked you to show me where people where fined for this NYC law? Who was fined for not calling someone by the correct pronoun?

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