Any Trump Supporters here?
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So you only care about it when whites do it to non-whites. That smacks of racism.
You still haven't shown any non-western countries that have pandered to the western people. I see you dodging it, though.
Show me a non white country that panders to whites, the way the west panders to everyone else. It can't be done because it does not happen.
You're missing the point - where most white people have gone they have not had the opportunity to be pandered to because they have taken over completely. How can people pander to you when you've already subjugated them?
There are plenty of areas throughout the UK where English isn't the spoken language and British culture is non existent.
The government turned a blind eye for 20 years while a group of muslim men raped over 1,400 white girls, because they didn't want to be seen as racists.
There are plenty of areas of Spain where thousands of British have emigrated, only speak English, go to English theme pubs and essentially set up England with sunnier weather.
The rape culture is worrying but the paedophile culture amongst white men is just as worrying, if not more so.
Casually reading news headlines the past few years there wasn't a few weeks went by where I didn't read about white gangs, or individuals, abusing young children, there was even one group that was spread throughout the UK and did unspeakable things to babies! Not forgetting the Jimmy Saville-style establishment cover up of institutional abuse and the abuse that occurred in religious institutions. I'm all for tackling attitudes to abuse in the Muslim community, but we also need to tackle the same in the white community.
Ok, so you support blacks being hostile toward whites in Africa. Do you support non muslims being hostile toward muslims since it's living memory of islamic terrorism?
I'm sure you would support being hostile toward catholics because of IRA terrorism in living memory.
I can understand why people are hostile to Muslims but I can also understand why Muslims are hostile to Westerners. If you live in a bubble where only Westerners have put up with terrorism then you're living in a fantasy land. There's been plenty of terrorism put upon many hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Muslim civilians.
I'm sure you would support being hostile toward catholics because of IRA terrorism in living memory.
In Northern Ireland there is plenty of blame to go on both sides. The IRA terrorised Unionists and the UK government colluded with loyalist paramilitaries to terrorise Catholics, and there was much institutional marginalisation of Catholics in terms of housing and jobs.
But there was a lot of hostility aimed towards Catholics in the 70s and 80s in England.
Thankfully, in that case, the lesson was learned that to blame a whole community for the acts of a small number of people, was wrong.
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Thankfully, in that case, the lesson was learned that to blame a whole community for the acts of a small number of people, was wrong.
Damn, you're comical.
You're missing the point - where most white people have gone they have not had the opportunity to be pandered to because they have taken over completely. How can people pander to you when you've already subjugated them?
You are still dodging.
Name a muslim country that has set up a special court system for westerners, to pander to us.
Tell me about the courts in Israel that were set up to pander to non jews.
Tell me about the special laws set up post 9/11 to protect non muslims in muslim countries.
Tell me about media blackouts in non western countries about crimes committed by westerners.
There are plenty of areas of Spain where thousands of British have emigrated, only speak English, go to English theme pubs and essentially set up England with sunnier weather.
And Spain frequently does land grabs from those British people.
I bet the Brits in Spain aren't on Spain's welfare roles and treating Spaniards like crap.
I bet those Brits also don't have special rights in Spain.
Polygamy is illegal in the UK unless you're muslim. There are no British courts in Spain.
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Can't stand Trump, but I despise Hillary. She is the Queen of Hypocrites.
Anyone who defends her automatically goes on a list of people I can't take seriously.
Trump is a joke, but she's pure evil.Well that show's how much you know about Hillary and that is nothing, because the right wing crap you have been brain washed with, and I know that because you use the same tired characterizations of her that they do. But for you to also immediately dismiss anyone who defenbds her shows what a closed minded person you are, and likely incapable of having a civilized political debate with someone and respecting their views while disagreeing. That is just like Trump and what is wrong with our country right now.
LOL, you are the one who is brainwashed, and no, I'm not right wing. Hillary has defended rape (it's a fact) went after women who came out over her pervert husband (documented) failed to do her job on multiple occasions and is involved in so many scandals it's ridiculous. I can't have "civilized" discussions with Hillary supporters because they can't be civilized if they do research and still support her.
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would you rather someone who is terrible and competent or terrible and incompetent?
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I'm a bissexual conservative/libertarian, which means I believe in the freedom of the individual to be free, so I'm against collectivism politics and the left-wing's agenda. Which means that I'm against both candidates. I'm actually scared that Hillary may be elected, and I'm not a "Trump supporter" by heart, but yeah, I'll take Trump.
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Both Hillary and Trump have faults they cannot deny, BUT Hillary focuses on her appearance far more then Trump does, she wants to seem appealing, reserved, and a competent president while Trump on the other hand loves to dish out his pig headed ideals for more then being appealing or anything in that matter. That factor alone is enough to make me vote Hillary because she at LEAST appears to have those presidential qualities that are needed if she going to run in office, Trump is a child in that he's incredibly unreserved and is in dire need of proper education education. I think it's in easy decision
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would you rather someone who is terrible and competent or terrible and incompetent?
Far as I can see, that choice isn't on the menu. As I see it, the choice is between a compulsive liar who is very well-informed but still makes terrible decisions and a con-man who often manages to personally profit from the terrible decisions he makes…
It's why I said earlier: If I was a US citizen, I wouldn't vote for either. When faced with such a choice, the only possible course of action is to abstain, IMO.
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Sounds like we have the London mayor here. He said we have to accept terrorism as part of life and not do anything to prevent it otherwise we'll upset the terrorists.
Citation needed
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I'm genuinely curious though- Trump issues aside- how can a gay man vote Republican and keep their self-respect?
You would be voting for a candidate whose party has explicitly ia clear anti-gay position in their platform. Isn't it like having someone slap you in the face and still giving them your support? -
"I'm genuinely curious though- Trump issues aside- how can a gay man vote Republican and keep their self-respect?
You would be voting for a candidate whose party has explicitly ia clear anti-gay position in their platform. Isn't it like having someone slap you in the face and still giving them your support?"and thats any different from voting democrat? a party that has no problem with affiliation to countries and ideas that are openly anti gay? cough Hillary,middle east, islam cough
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Yes, it's very different. Actions speak volumes and the actions of Democrats have helped bring marriage equality to the US. Associating with Islam and the Middle Eastern countries is necessary. It doesn't mean they support the anti-gay policies of those countries.
And again, only the Republican party has made anti-gay policies a core part of their party platform.
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Sounds like we have the London mayor here. He said we have to accept terrorism as part of life and not do anything to prevent it otherwise we'll upset the terrorists.
Citation needed
Read all the various articles about him.
After the semi-recent NYC bombings, he said that terrorism is part and parcel of living in a city and we have to get used to it.
So far, as mayor, he has only looked at responses to terror attacks, not how to prevent them.
As a lawyer, he has made a career out of defending extremist and terrorist muslims.
Both as a politician and as a lawyer, he has been against all programs that have attempted to prevent extremism/terrorism.
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Its in times like these i thank the fact i was born in the other side of the atlantic ocean
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Sounds like we have the London mayor here. He said we have to accept terrorism as part of life and not do anything to prevent it otherwise we'll upset the terrorists.
Why do western countries have to change to suit the immigrants? The US has to change to suit illegals, muslim immigrants, and all manner of non-American people. The same here in Europe, but it's far worse here.
!!!! Americans are immigrants … They stole the country from the american indians and slaughtered most of them and totally destroyed their culture ... Think before you make these ignorant statements ... And the London mayor certainly didn't say we shouldn't do anything against terrorism !!! ... You need to grow up and stop listening to the sensationalist press
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Sounds like we have the London mayor here. He said we have to accept terrorism as part of life and not do anything to prevent it otherwise we'll upset the terrorists.
Why do western countries have to change to suit the immigrants? The US has to change to suit illegals, muslim immigrants, and all manner of non-American people. The same here in Europe, but it's far worse here.
!!!! Americans are immigrants … They stole the country from the american indians and slaughtered most of them and totally destroyed their culture ... Think before you make these ignorant statements ... And the London mayor certainly didn't say we shouldn't do anything against terrorism !!! ... You need to grow up and stop listening to the sensationalist press
I'm pretty sure it was the French President who said that we (France) needs to learn to live with terorrism, not the London Mayor.
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It may be been both the French President and the London Mayor who said it. I know the London Mayor said it.
!!!! Americans are immigrants … They stole the country from the american indians and slaughtered most of them and totally destroyed their culture ... Think before you make these ignorant statements ... And the London mayor certainly didn't say we shouldn't do anything against terrorism !!! ... You need to grow up and stop listening to the sensationalist press
Clearly, you ignored everything I said. Now name a muslim country that panders to westerners, like the west panders to muslims.
Throughout history people have invaded and taken lands. Why aren't you screaming about Vlad the Impaler's country no longer exists? Why aren't you screaming about the "native" Americans who invaded other "native" Americans' lands and took them? etc, etc, etc
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Clearly, you ignored everything I said. Now name a muslim country that panders to westerners, like the west panders to muslims.
This. I can't name a single one. islam is not a religion of. countless wars have been fought under the name of allah and countless people have been killed. No religion has grown without this violence. So fuck those cunts off.
The conspiracy theorist in me believes that tich muslim countries not only refuse to accept muslim refugees but encourage them to go to western lands to islamify the world.
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I was a Bernie supporter and I will be voting for Hillary.
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The discussion on here and other forums shows that a large number of gays are becoming anti-Muslim and some may vote for Trump. Maybe all they were interested in was to get all the legal rights and the tide has turned to conservatism. Lesbians are also showing this trend. Twinks for Trump is a funny but real thing too.
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