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    • G Offline
      Gr1zz
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      Elect Ron Jeremy
      Because if the country is going to be screwed, at least it should be done professionally!

      [you], are you staring at my crotch?

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        wrestling82
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        Can't stand Trump, but I despise Hillary. She is the Queen of Hypocrites.
        Anyone who defends her automatically goes on a list of people I can't take seriously.
        Trump is a joke, but she's pure evil.

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          lianna
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          You can't stump the Trump

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            seaguy11
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            @wrestling82:

            Can't stand Trump, but I despise Hillary. She is the Queen of Hypocrites.
            Anyone who defends her automatically goes on a list of people I can't take seriously.
            Trump is a joke, but she's pure evil.

            Well that show's how much you know about Hillary and that is nothing, because the right wing crap you have been brain washed with, and I know that because you use the same tired characterizations of her that they do.  But for you to also immediately dismiss anyone who defenbds her shows what a closed minded person you are, and likely incapable of having a civilized political debate with someone and respecting their views while disagreeing.  That is just like Trump and what is wrong with our country right now.

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              MancCub
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              Are "those countries" making special laws to pander to the white people?

              Yes! When the white people overrun the country, outnumbering the native people of course they establish themselves as the establishment.

              That's why the Maori have had to go to court to get land back that was illegally taken from them - that's still ongoing after decades.

              In the US, the government still decides the fate of many elements of Native American lives.

              Up until the 60s Aborigines were considered 'flora and fauna' and they are still marginalised to a great extent in their own country, by white immigrants.

              So, if whites are evil for doing it, does that make non-whites evil for doing it too?   If not, you are a hypocrite.

              Doing what too? Give me an example of where non-white people have done an equivalent?

              If the population of the UK became 85% Asian in a short space of time, British culture, and language, was totally eroded of course I'd think that was wrong. Has that happened?

              South Africa and most other African countries are very hostile to whites.

              Of course they're hostile, many people in SA have a living memory of living under Apartheid - how can they not be bitter about it? If you, your parents or grandparents suffered under a regime like Apartheid would you think it was nothing?

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                Fisto
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                So we have Hillary and we can 90% assume with confidence she'll just continue Obama's policies in terms of economic, foreign policy… She's corrupt as fuck but FAR from the point of Thailand, Russia corrupt. She has flip flopped a lot in terms of her views but I never said she was a good candidate: she's horrible.

                But I can't take people seriously if they'd rather someone incompetent running the country vs someone corrupt. Trump has zero clue about foreign policy. He thinks Mexicans border crossers are primarily rapists and criminals, he's been quoted saying to "attack terrorists by attacking their families".  He's been saying so much racist, sexist shit not just "caught on camera" but in his supposedly planned, thought out interviews. He legitimately holds these views. I can't believe how people defend him by saying "he didn't actually mean that".
                Trump has consistently failed to actually explain what his policies actually involve. He has avoided absolutely EVERY question about the specifics of his policy everywhere and every time he's asked it is the weakest parts of his in the debates, in the nominations etc.
                His build a wall plan is very funny and very big and flashy but anybody can see it's hugely impractical. Yet he always pushes that slogan "We're gonna build a wall and we're gonna make Mexico pay for it". So people say, "That's just a metaphor." Well, what is his actual policy? He has never answered up till this date.

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                  bjt
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                  First and foremost if Mr Trump is elected along with his homophobic side kick Mr Pence  :afr: :crazy2: :afr:  America is DOOMED. If you vote for this troubling twosome you are a special kind of stupid.  Second, can someone explain what exactly has Hill done that makes her so corrupt and horrible.  Facts not Fox stories please. Third, It kinda boggles the mind why a large chunk of Americans think Obama has been a terrible President.  Does anyone remember what he walked into thanks to 8 yrs of Bush and DICK. Sure he wasn't perfect, no President has ever been perfect. He did however pull the country out of the ditch it was in ( the numbers don't lie, Fox news does) even with the do NOTHING congress, worst in history and the real problem of the last 8 yrs, FACT! Anyways, please don't fuck it up and vote Trump.  The world is watching. Peace out

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                    @MancCub:

                    Are "those countries" making special laws to pander to the white people?

                    Yes! When the white people overrun the country, outnumbering the native people of course they establish themselves as the establishment.

                    That's why the Maori have had to go to court to get land back that was illegally taken from them - that's still ongoing after decades.

                    In the US, the government still decides the fate of many elements of Native American lives.

                    Up until the 60s Aborigines were considered 'flora and fauna' and they are still marginalised to a great extent in their own country, by white immigrants.

                    So you only care about it when whites do it to non-whites.  That smacks of racism.

                    You still haven't shown any non-western countries that have pandered to the western people.   I see you dodging it, though.

                    Show me a non white country that panders to whites, the way the west panders to everyone else.    It can't be done because it does not happen.

                    So, if whites are evil for doing it, does that make non-whites evil for doing it too?   If not, you are a hypocrite.

                    Doing what too? Give me an example of where non-white people have done an equivalent?

                    If the population of the UK became 85% Asian in a short space of time, British culture, and language, was totally eroded of course I'd think that was wrong. Has that happened?

                    There are plenty of areas throughout the UK where English isn't the spoken language and British culture is non existent.

                    The government turned a blind eye for 20 years while a group of muslim men raped over 1,400 white girls, because they didn't want to be seen as racists.

                    South Africa and most other African countries are very hostile to whites.

                    Of course they're hostile, many people in SA have a living memory of living under Apartheid - how can they not be bitter about it? If you, your parents or grandparents suffered under a regime like Apartheid would you think it was nothing?

                    Ok, so you support blacks being hostile toward whites in Africa.   Do you support non muslims being hostile toward muslims since it's living memory of islamic terrorism?

                    I'm sure you would support being hostile toward catholics because of IRA terrorism in living memory.

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                      MancCub
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                      So you only care about it when whites do it to non-whites.  That smacks of racism.

                      You still haven't shown any non-western countries that have pandered to the western people.   I see you dodging it, though.

                      Show me a non white country that panders to whites, the way the west panders to everyone else.    It can't be done because it does not happen.

                      You're missing the point - where most white people have gone they have not had the opportunity to be pandered to because they have taken over completely. How can people pander to you when you've already subjugated them?

                      There are plenty of areas throughout the UK where English isn't the spoken language and British culture is non existent.

                      The government turned a blind eye for 20 years while a group of muslim men raped over 1,400 white girls, because they didn't want to be seen as racists.

                      There are plenty of areas of Spain where thousands of British have emigrated, only speak English, go to English theme pubs and essentially set up England with sunnier weather.

                      The rape culture is worrying but the paedophile culture amongst white men is just as worrying, if not more so.

                      Casually reading news headlines the past few years there wasn't a few weeks went by where I didn't read about white gangs, or individuals, abusing young children, there was even one group that was spread throughout the UK and did unspeakable things to babies! Not forgetting the Jimmy Saville-style establishment cover up of institutional abuse and the abuse that occurred in religious institutions. I'm all for tackling attitudes to abuse in the Muslim community, but we also need to tackle the same in the white community.

                      Ok, so you support blacks being hostile toward whites in Africa.   Do you support non muslims being hostile toward muslims since it's living memory of islamic terrorism?

                      I'm sure you would support being hostile toward catholics because of IRA terrorism in living memory.

                      I can understand why people are hostile to Muslims but I can also understand why Muslims are hostile to Westerners. If you live in a bubble where only Westerners have put up with terrorism then you're living in a fantasy land. There's been plenty of terrorism put upon many hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Muslim civilians.

                      I'm sure you would support being hostile toward catholics because of IRA terrorism in living memory.

                      In Northern Ireland there is plenty of blame to go on both sides. The IRA terrorised Unionists and the UK government colluded with loyalist paramilitaries to terrorise Catholics, and there was much institutional marginalisation of Catholics in terms of housing and jobs.

                      But there was a lot of hostility aimed towards Catholics in the 70s and 80s in England.

                      Thankfully, in that case, the lesson was learned that to blame a whole community for the acts of a small number of people, was wrong.

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                        Thankfully, in that case, the lesson was learned that to blame a whole community for the acts of a small number of people, was wrong.

                        Damn, you're comical.

                        You're missing the point - where most white people have gone they have not had the opportunity to be pandered to because they have taken over completely. How can people pander to you when you've already subjugated them?

                        You are still dodging.

                        Name a muslim country that has set up a special court system for westerners, to pander to us.

                        Tell me about the courts in Israel that were set up to pander to non jews.

                        Tell me about the special laws set up post 9/11 to protect non muslims in muslim countries.

                        Tell me about media blackouts in non western countries about crimes committed by westerners.

                        There are plenty of areas of Spain where thousands of British have emigrated, only speak English, go to English theme pubs and essentially set up England with sunnier weather.

                        And Spain frequently does land grabs from those British people.

                        I bet the Brits in Spain aren't on Spain's welfare roles and treating Spaniards like crap.

                        I bet those Brits also don't have special rights in Spain.

                        Polygamy is illegal in the UK unless you're muslim.  There are no British courts in Spain.

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                          wrestling82
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                          @seaguy11:

                          @wrestling82:

                          Can't stand Trump, but I despise Hillary. She is the Queen of Hypocrites.
                          Anyone who defends her automatically goes on a list of people I can't take seriously.
                          Trump is a joke, but she's pure evil.

                          Well that show's how much you know about Hillary and that is nothing, because the right wing crap you have been brain washed with, and I know that because you use the same tired characterizations of her that they do.  But for you to also immediately dismiss anyone who defenbds her shows what a closed minded person you are, and likely incapable of having a civilized political debate with someone and respecting their views while disagreeing.  That is just like Trump and what is wrong with our country right now.

                          LOL, you are the one who is brainwashed, and no, I'm not right wing. Hillary has defended rape (it's a fact) went after women who came out over her pervert husband (documented) failed to do her job on multiple occasions and is involved in so many scandals it's ridiculous. I can't have "civilized" discussions with Hillary supporters because they can't be civilized if they do research and still support her.

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                            pasha
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                            would you rather someone who is terrible and competent or terrible and incompetent?

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                              OpenGLS
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                              I'm a bissexual conservative/libertarian, which means I believe in the freedom of the individual to be free, so I'm against collectivism politics and the left-wing's agenda. Which means that I'm against both candidates. I'm actually scared that Hillary may be elected, and I'm not a "Trump supporter" by heart, but yeah, I'll take Trump.

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                                cupofass
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                                Both Hillary and Trump have faults they cannot deny, BUT Hillary focuses on her appearance far more then Trump does, she wants to seem appealing, reserved, and a competent president while Trump on the other hand loves to dish out his pig headed ideals for more then being appealing or anything in that matter. That factor alone is enough to make me vote Hillary because she at LEAST appears to have those presidential qualities that are needed if she going to run in office, Trump is a child in that he's incredibly unreserved and is in dire need of proper education education. I think it's in easy decision  😕

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                                  alanalt
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                                  @pasha:

                                  would you rather someone who is terrible and competent or terrible and incompetent?

                                  Far as I can see, that choice isn't on the menu. As I see it, the choice is between a compulsive liar who is very well-informed but still makes terrible decisions and a con-man who often manages to personally profit from the terrible decisions he makes…

                                  It's why I said earlier: If I was a US citizen, I wouldn't vote for either. When faced with such a choice, the only possible course of action is to abstain, IMO.

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                                    csw77
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                                    @raphjd:

                                    Sounds like we have the London mayor here.   He said we have to accept terrorism as part of life and not do anything to prevent it otherwise we'll upset the terrorists.

                                    Citation needed

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                                      csw77
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                                      @wrestling82:

                                      Hillary has defended rape (it's a fact)

                                      Evidence? Or just Breitbart?

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                                        brianboru72
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                                        I'm genuinely curious though- Trump issues aside- how can a gay man vote Republican and keep their self-respect?
                                        You would be voting for a candidate whose party has explicitly ia clear anti-gay position in their platform. Isn't it like having someone slap you in the face and still giving them your support?

                                        Tell someone you love them today, because life is short.
                                        But shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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                                          jazuko
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                                          "I'm genuinely curious though- Trump issues aside- how can a gay man vote Republican and keep their self-respect?
                                          You would be voting for a candidate whose party has explicitly ia clear anti-gay position in their platform. Isn't it like having someone slap you in the face and still giving them your support?"

                                          and thats any different from voting democrat? a party that has no problem with affiliation to countries and ideas that are openly anti gay? cough Hillary,middle east, islam cough

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                                            brianboru72
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                                            Yes, it's very different. Actions speak volumes and the actions of Democrats have helped bring marriage equality to the US. Associating with Islam and the Middle Eastern countries is necessary. It doesn't mean they support the anti-gay policies of those countries.

                                            And again, only the Republican party has made anti-gay policies a core part of their party platform.

                                            Tell someone you love them today, because life is short.
                                            But shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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