People uploading random photos for bonus points

[Popper]

Perhaps it should be clarified how it works today:

a) Only the original uploader, members who have completed a torrent's file(s) download and staff can add pictures.

b) Pictures added by members who have completed the download will go through a quick check by moderators, before the points are given out. This check is only performed within the context of that torrent's presentation page.

c) There is a system of appropriate graduated response from just deleting wrong image over a PM, PM warning to system warnings. Usually it stops after a first PM. Often it are simple mistakes or missing knowledge.

d) Often we see pictures multiple times or from a previous upload. This might be due to QTM not clearing the picture list after an (failed) upload.

[cannonmc]

Just a small point, Popper.

Surely anyone can add pictures if it says "Add Screenshots and Covers to make some extra SeedPoints" on the torrent page. I have added a thumbnail picture (all I ever do) to torrents I haven't downloaded. I do that because I already have the file from a different source and can make the thumbnails quickly and easily.

The torrents that I haven't figured are those which have less than 10 pictures but don't give the option to "Add Screenshots and Covers
to make some extra SeedPoints". I'm assuming it is posted by a staff member who doesn't want anything added. I'm probably way off target with that

[eastonkellan]

@cannonmc:

Just a small point, Popper.

Surely anyone can add pictures if it says "Add Screenshots and Covers to make some extra SeedPoints" on the torrent page. I have added a thumbnail picture (all I ever do) to torrents I haven't downloaded. I do that because I already have the file from a different source and can make the thumbnails quickly and easily.

:true: I too, have files that I've got wherein they show all scenes of a porn vidz

@cannonmc:

The torrents that I haven't figured are those which have less than 10 pictures but don't give the option to "Add Screenshots and Covers
to make some extra SeedPoints". I'm assuming it is posted by a staff member who doesn't want anything added. I'm probably way off target with that

This is just an assumption on my part, I think some add'l pix uploader have already uploaded the pix and are just waiting for approval, maybe that is why some files with less than 10 pix no longer have the option of "Add Screenshots and Covers to make some extra SeedPoints"

[viscous]

@Popper:

d) Often we see pictures multiple times or from a previous upload. This might be due to QTM not clearing the picture list after an (failed) upload.

Thanks very much for that explanation, Popper. I've never used Quick Torrent Maker and it never occurred to me that it might be a QTM quirk causing this.

[cannonmc]

@ EK, you could well be right. I hadn't thought of the 'pictures pending' angle 

[Popper]

your are right: All members can add pictures if there are less than 10 (including those awaiting release).

[cannonmc]

Just to throw this into the pot.

I've just uploaded a torrent using the manual upload page as I always do.

When I got to the 'add picture' stage there was already a picture added. It was in the same folder (My Desktop) as the pictures I was going to use but I hadn't specified in the upload which folder I was using for anything by then. The picture was for a movie that I hadn't uploaded anywhere, just one I was considering for the future.

It wasn't the first in the folder or the oldest or the newest or the biggest or the smallest. It just inserted itself…

Spooky or what?  :blink:

[MrMazda]

Is it possible that you may have attempted an upload previously that you abandoned before trying that upload? I know sometimes when you've started a manual upload, it tends to keep pictures you have started to upload, making them appear the next time you attempt a manual upload. I´m not exactly sure as to why this is, I just know I´ve come across it a few times now in my days.

[cannonmc]

No. I had never tried posting it anywhere. And my plan was for another site anyway.

[cannonmc]

Right, I'm for BANNING any uploads from anyone except the original poster.

When I post I usually add two cover shots (the best I can find) and a good-size contact sheet. I post them in reverse order so they show as: front, back, contact

Earlier today I did just that - see original below.

Ten minutes later I came back to the mess below. Random snapshots that weren't identified. Two more contact sheets that were not needed. The whole thing looked as if I'd run amok.

I know I have added pictures to other torrents but I limit myself to one screenshot where the poster has only uploaded covers. And I always feel bad that my picture comes before the original but nothing I can do about that.

[MrMazda]

I'm not sure how that would have happened as mods who do picture approval are supposed to check to see if the pictures are relevant, but I can say this…

If you see this kind of thing on your torrents, please hit the report button to flag it for the pictures so that mods can correct this for you. I know this isn't the ideal solution for you, but it is an option that we can use with the system as we have it currently. I do understand your frustrations completely. I'm just not sure that the powers that be would be too willing to jump straight to that (just to be honest up front).

[cannonmc]

Mr Mazda, those pictures might have been relevant but unnecessary.

And we can't expect Mods to know every movie and every scene to know whether the pictures are relevant.

However the report button works well. I have reported pictures on my own as well as other torrents which had nothing to do with and they have been deleted quickly. But it is just more work for staff that could be avoided.

[viscous]

@cannonmc:

Mr Mazda, those pictures might have been relevant but unnecessary.

I respectfully disagree a little bit here. My only problem is with irrelevant pictures (which I now know may just be due to a QTM quirk). For me, the more relevant pix the better – I don't care if it's messy (or sweaty, or smelly...)

[Popper]

There are about 1000 pictures which pass the quick check by staff added each day. Compared to that, the number of reported images is in a low single digit percentage area.

[cannonmc]

For me, the more relevant pix the better

And if we see a mess of untitled pictures in no particular order, how are we to know which are relevant?

[viscous]

@cannonmc:

For me, the more relevant pix the better

And if we see a mess of untitled pictures in no particular order, how are we to know which are relevant?

In the second post on this thread, you yourself said "I actually don't see many bad uploads of pictures. Some I report if they are really misleading."

And in respose to my original post, Popper said it's likely just a Quick Torrent Maker quirk. It's not that moderators are approving random images - so what I assumed was not a problem, after all.

So I'm retracting my original complaint. Restricting image uploads to those who've downloaded the torrent doesn't seem to be neccesary (though it's open to debate).

To answer your question: the studio watermark may be absent / different, the lighting may be wrong (if it's something that doesn't look like it's from the film or the studio's stills), or it may be something completely off the wall (from a previous QTM upload?).

[leeniedo]

Not to say its QTM one way or the other but I have had the issue and being a mac person i have no access to QTM.

[cannonmc]

Slightly bending the topic here…

Restricting image uploads to those who've downloaded the torrent…

As I've said more than once I wish people who have downloaded would add thumbnails if none have been posted already

Everyone (including the original poster) can make thumbnails easily (except Mac users and DVDs). I'm not asking anyone to splatter pictures all over a torrent page, just one tidy thumbnail sheet…and you get a bonus point.

And QTN doesn't affect me - I've never used it

[Bluesurfer]

@Popper:

d) Often we see pictures multiple times or from a previous upload. This might be due to QTM not clearing the picture list after an (failed) upload.

Thanks Popper for this explanation as this has happened to me an I thought it was my error not QTM but it does seem to happen to me after QTM fails to complete the upload so now I know! :thankyou: