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    • V Offline
      viscous
      last edited by

      Thanks for your reply, cannonmc. I also sometimes post thumbnails of files I happen to already have when there are almost no photos. One solution would let people post extra photos, but not get any kind of reward. I see, and sometimes report, what I know or what are obviously the wrong photos for torrents pretty regularly. Finally, the complaining comment on the torrent in question was only posted on Aug. 4, 2016, so the misleading photos could have been uploaded very recently (and approved by a moderator).

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        Popper Global Moderator
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        Those images had a Gaytorrent.ru watermark and therefore must have been added years ago.

        What makes you think moderators added them?

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        • V Offline
          viscous
          last edited by

          1. The bonus points for photo uploads has been going on for years, so they could have been uploaded years ago. What incentive would the original uploader have for uploading misleading photos?

          2. I see these all the time, for the very good reason that the site gives anyone the incentive to do it. Before my last computer crashed, I used to keep a list of bizarre gt.ru torrent postings for my entertainment. I still remember and enjoy the bizarre mishmash of https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=a3ad5e365b771f2d42fccc738f1cb52d35e80a66dc331401&filelist=1#xfilelist .

          My trove of funny cat pics are at the ready. Prepare yourselves, moderators!

          Edit: I actually don't mean to sound rude to the staff. I very much appreciate all the work you do for me and all the members. I just don't like this one policy, and have seen problems with it for a very long time. Thanks for your responses.

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            cannonmc
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            I don't think I got over my point that everyone who completes a download is able to make and upload thumbnails of the movie.

            A few clicks with Media Player Classic to make the thumbnails, two clicks to upload and voila!

            This even works with DVDs (sometimes) by using the VTS_01_1.VOB file. That often doesn't work properly.

            The only exception I've found is Mac users and DVDs

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            • kalayaanK Offline
              kalayaan Global Moderator
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              @viscous:

              My trove of funny cat pics are at the ready. Prepare yourselves, moderators!

              Whether this particular statement is written in jest or otherwise, do you think you are setting a good example on other members?

              Moderators do not just approved add'l pics "randomly", there are guidelines to follow…...and if there are reports (helpdesk) on such matter, mods acts on that matter within the day

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                cannonmc
                last edited by

                do you think you are setting a good example on other members?

                But viscous is not here to set a good example, that's your job  :hug:

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                  viscous
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                  @kalayaan:

                  @viscous:

                  My trove of funny cat pics are at the ready. Prepare yourselves, moderators!

                  Whether this particular statement is written in jest or otherwise, do you think you are setting a good example on other members?

                  Moderators do not just approved add'l pics "randomly", there are guidelines to follow…...and if there are reports (helpdesk) on such matter, mods acts on that matter within the day

                  Yes, that was a joke. I appreciate the work the staff does.

                  However, clearly irrelevant photos do get (I assume) uploaded for bonus points regularly, and get approved by the staff. The torrent I mentioned above (https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=a3ad5e365b771f2d42fccc738f1cb52d35e80a66dc331401) had obviously wrong photos approved, like "POW," "Recruiting," and "Reply All" covers - from MEN.com and other studios (now thankfully removed). Another movie torrent had dozens of vintage gay porn magazine covers added (they got deleted after I reported them).

                  So my suggestion from my first post stands. Particularly, you should make it clear that there will be serious consequences for anyone uploading these photos. Are there any consequences now?

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                  • H Offline
                    haisufu
                    last edited by

                    I myself have never really come across torrents with wrong pics attached, but I guess the suggestion of allowing only people that have downloaded it to upload pics for points is rather valid. It won't stop people from still uploading wrong pics, but try to reduce it at least.

                    Or, the scheme could perhaps be tweaked such that users only get the points once moderators / whoever out there (again, previously download it) verifies that the pic is correct.

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                      Popper Global Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Perhaps it should be clarified how it works today:

                      a) Only the original uploader, members who have completed a torrent's file(s) download and staff can add pictures.

                      b) Pictures added by members who have completed the download will go through a quick check by moderators, before the points are given out. This check is only performed within the context of that torrent's presentation page.

                      c) There is a system of appropriate graduated response from just deleting wrong image over a PM, PM warning to system warnings. Usually it stops after a first PM. Often it are simple mistakes or missing knowledge.

                      d) Often we see pictures multiple times or from a previous upload. This might be due to QTM not clearing the picture list after an (failed) upload.

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                        cannonmc
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                        Just a small point, Popper.

                        Surely anyone can add pictures if it says "Add Screenshots and Covers to make some extra SeedPoints" on the torrent page. I have added a thumbnail picture (all I ever do) to torrents I haven't downloaded. I do that because I already have the file from a different source and can make the thumbnails quickly and easily.

                        The torrents that I haven't figured are those which have less than 10 pictures but don't give the option to "Add Screenshots and Covers
                        to make some extra SeedPoints
                        ". I'm assuming it is posted by a staff member who doesn't want anything added. I'm probably way off target with that

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                        • eastonkellanE Offline
                          eastonkellan
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                          @cannonmc:

                          Just a small point, Popper.

                          Surely anyone can add pictures if it says "Add Screenshots and Covers to make some extra SeedPoints" on the torrent page. I have added a thumbnail picture (all I ever do) to torrents I haven't downloaded. I do that because I already have the file from a different source and can make the thumbnails quickly and easily.

                          :true: I too, have files that I've got wherein they show all scenes of a porn vidz

                          @cannonmc:

                          The torrents that I haven't figured are those which have less than 10 pictures but don't give the option to "Add Screenshots and Covers
                          to make some extra SeedPoints
                          ". I'm assuming it is posted by a staff member who doesn't want anything added. I'm probably way off target with that

                          This is just an assumption on my part, I think some add'l pix uploader have already uploaded the pix and are just waiting for approval, maybe that is why some files with less than 10 pix no longer have the option of "Add Screenshots and Covers to make some extra SeedPoints"

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                          • V Offline
                            viscous
                            last edited by

                            @Popper:

                            d) Often we see pictures multiple times or from a previous upload. This might be due to QTM not clearing the picture list after an (failed) upload.

                            Thanks very much for that explanation, Popper. I've never used Quick Torrent Maker and it never occurred to me that it might be a QTM quirk causing this.

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                              cannonmc
                              last edited by

                              @ EK, you could well be right. I hadn't thought of the 'pictures pending' angle  😄

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                                Popper Global Moderator
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                                your are right: All members can add pictures if there are less than 10 (including those awaiting release).

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                                  cannonmc
                                  last edited by

                                  Just to throw this into the pot.

                                  I've just uploaded a torrent using the manual upload page as I always do.

                                  When I got to the 'add picture' stage there was already a picture added. It was in the same folder (My Desktop) as the pictures I was going to use but I hadn't specified in the upload which folder I was using for anything by then. The picture was for a movie that I hadn't uploaded anywhere, just one I was considering for the future.

                                  It wasn't the first in the folder or the oldest or the newest or the biggest or the smallest. It just inserted itself…

                                  Spooky or what?  :blink:

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                                  • MrMazdaM Offline
                                    MrMazda Global Moderator
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                                    Is it possible that you may have attempted an upload previously that you abandoned before trying that upload? I know sometimes when you've started a manual upload, it tends to keep pictures you have started to upload, making them appear the next time you attempt a manual upload. I´m not exactly sure as to why this is, I just know I´ve come across it a few times now in my days.

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                                      cannonmc
                                      last edited by

                                      No. I had never tried posting it anywhere. And my plan was for another site anyway.

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                                        cannonmc
                                        last edited by

                                        Right, I'm for BANNING any uploads from anyone except the original poster.

                                        When I post I usually add two cover shots (the best I can find) and a good-size contact sheet. I post them in reverse order so they show as: front, back, contact

                                        Earlier today I did just that - see original below.

                                        Ten minutes later I came back to the mess below. Random snapshots that weren't identified. Two more contact sheets that were not needed. The whole thing looked as if I'd run amok.

                                        I know I have added pictures to other torrents but I limit myself to one screenshot where the poster has only uploaded covers. And I always feel bad that my picture comes before the original but nothing I can do about that.

                                        prague original.JPG
                                        prague mess.JPG

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                                        • MrMazdaM Offline
                                          MrMazda Global Moderator
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                                          I'm not sure how that would have happened as mods who do picture approval are supposed to check to see if the pictures are relevant, but I can say this…

                                          If you see this kind of thing on your torrents, please hit the report button to flag it for the pictures so that mods can correct this for you. I know this isn't the ideal solution for you, but it is an option that we can use with the system as we have it currently. I do understand your frustrations completely. I'm just not sure that the powers that be would be too willing to jump straight to that (just to be honest up front).

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                                            cannonmc
                                            last edited by

                                            Mr Mazda, those pictures might have been relevant but unnecessary.

                                            And we can't expect Mods to know every movie and every scene to know whether the pictures are relevant.

                                            However the report button works well. I have reported pictures on my own as well as other torrents which had nothing to do with and they have been deleted quickly. But it is just more work for staff that could be avoided.

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