The New Picture Browser - Feedback

Joker

new picture browser is horrible (at least for me)
It makes it very difficult to find what one is looking for.

Old browsing system is much better for me.
It would be nice if you provide a choice in the profile settings t choose old or new one
thank you for your efforts

? you did not read this topic well right ?

shdwrulr

@Joker:

@neredesin34:

new picture browser is horrible (at least for me)
It makes it very difficult to find what one is looking for.

Old browsing system is much better for me.
It would be nice if you provide a choice in the profile settings t choose old or new one
thank you for your efforts

? you did not read this topic well right ?

This is the internet, easier to spend a minute to drop a complaint than to read a page or 2 of responses.

Anyways, the new images layout is interesting however.

Would like to make thumbnails bigger, currently they are a bit too small. ***
Delineation between torrents
Ability for the torrent maker to select primary image. Community can also pick/vote a primary image. ***
Ability to see multiple images in a torrent on hover (such as how search does for mousing over title) ***
Show file name/title with image

An idea would be to have various boxes with small margins/borders setup, each with the truncated title across a single line and an image under it. When moused over, it shows the other images (like current system).
Also image size options, such as small (current thumbnail size), medium and large. These thumbnails would be based on the image width as to keep the flow of things.

*** Items would make the largest impact of usability for me.

bnalls

I really, really like the idea. I am one of those that depend more on the pics to make my decisions. I just think if there were less pics per page it would really help. While it does take a bit longer to load, that wasn't my concern. It was the fact that there were soooooo many pics that just looked like they were piled on top of each other. If there was more of a distinction between them, I would probably use it as a permanent search tool.

shdwrulr

One thing I find interesting is that it does output a mixture of new and old torrents. If everyone sees the same output, this is cool as it refreshes old torrents. IE, every odd column is a list of torrents older than 6 months.

However if the image output is random, that maybe a problem as I would be downloading old torrents (possibly dead) that most likely won't seed for a long while. IE, kill my ratio.

bjk1961

Really like the picture browser. I have found more than a few movies to download (non-porn, gay-themed movies). I would like to ask that the "spinny" things (image loading graphic) be eliminated. They actually provoked a migraine after about five pages of browsing.

phonebud

What was it that motivated the work to create this "browse-by-image" interface?

I mean, what was it intended to do that the Search interface wasn't doing?

I'm still unable to think of a situation where it might be a more helpful way of reviewing what's presently offered, what's new, etc.

kub

yo! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
great stuff. loved the new browser.
i have one suggestion. make the tooltip disappear when the mouse is outside of the photo grid. the way it behaves now, the textbox can show on top of the images while you are scrolling, covering some images…

also it would be nice to have the slideshow buttons on these previews too

twinkerzzz

i like it def - its cool for the visual hunter types - i always check the images on an upload b4 i go into the page so this really shortcuts that process.
But on first lookie would like some indication of what order the images are loading - is it based on most recently uploaded or what ? do i have any control over the display order and if so i cant see immediately any obvious buttons so im a bit in the dark…..

twinkerzzz

so requests:

change the menu bar from 'browser' to 'picture browser'
and some indication of order in which images are loading - or even control - eg by date uploaded as its not clear and SA feedback suggests its loading randomly which has its uses but isnt as useful as loading by date uploaded or theme etc

but great addition for those who hunt via images anyway….......

BIG THUMB UP - to the tumblr styleee new browse feature

Popper

Some answers to the functionality at the moment of writing this:

By default, the display of pictures is of random torrents, supposed to be one picture by torrent
- Display of pictures can be selected to be from some categories only
- Display of pictures can be selected to be by date/time descending by checking "[ ] Sort by latest torrent first". Then all pictures of a torrent will be shown (this is likely to be changed)

MrE

Is it possible to have the same sort features as the search page instead of just a choice between random, or Most recent?
I find a sort by seed/sort by leech and times snatched more useful that just simply most recently uploaded?

Joker

thank you for so much valued feedback :hug2:
the filter options get extended.. while trying to optimize the database queries to get some better speed.
more sort orders and also a search field will be added like on regular torrent search

i was wondering when people ask to change the menu. we thought about this quite a while. but picbrowser is somehow to long

jacobslokum

Thanks for making this interface! As it is, it's not terribly useful to me, but I spent a couple of minutes playing around and think it has a lot of potential. Maximizing the usefulness of new UIs requires matching them to the way your users actually operate, so I'll share my MO here:

My usual MO on the regular search page is to use the combination of title, short description, and category –- all taken in in a few seconds while scrolling --- to identify torrents that are potentially promising, then scroll over the thumbnails to see the expanded images. If the torrent still looks promising at this point I open it up in the background for later perusal, as I continue to check out all the torrents new to the site. So the pic information is actually secondary, and I really expect to be able to see the torrents in chronological order so that I can catch up on the new torrents since I last visited.

As is, the PictureBrowser is not a better option than regular search for me because:

it doesn't make it visually clear which pictures correspond to which torrent: I have to manually mouse over each image to separate them out --- you actually already provide most of the meta-information I want (except the size) in the mouse over, so all that's needed here is to visually separate the various torrents, e.g. by using a thick frame to outline the pics corresponding to one torrent. whitespace is the best tool!
it doesn't seem to show all the latest content even when the "sort by latest torrent first" button is turned on; I see a lot of stuff from years ago very high up in the list.
it's not clear how torrents are chosen to displayed : this is more of a psychological issue. If you used something definite and intuitive like peak number of seeders or amount of seedpoints, chosen to be reflective of the `desirability' of the torrent, and made this clear, I'd feel much less discomforted about allowing the PictureBrowser to guide me.

I imagine all three of these points are easily remedied.

cocogum

I quite like the new concept of browsing by image. I agree that it would be easier to see the images if they were better organised with a small border and perhaps lined up. This would make it easier to scan.
Would it possible to add a couple more images with the description as one rolls over?
Also, it does take a while to load chunks of images. It looks like there's some sort of dynamic process to retrieve these images rather than pulling some preprocessed ones for faster download…
Otherwise, I love it. Thanks guys! :thx:

DeliverItDee

Terrible! Please noooo! It's a cluster fuck in a bad way. Make the image larger but still vertical scrolling. I can't use this format.

lkn4hngu

I think it's a good start. Overall, I like the idea. A bit of padding around the images might make it a bit easier on the eyes. I love that the files appear in what seems to be a random order, so older torrents show up near the top. That will be great for keeping some torrents alive longer and reviving some old ones, too.

Is there any chance of getting the "clear all" and "set all" buttons from the search page on the filters for the browse page? It's a bit of a pain to have to tick or untick all of the boxes to filter the images.

The biggest problem I see is that some of the images are the thumbnail sheet from video capture software. For those torrents, the image is really 10 - 20 tiny images that cannot be seen. Perhaps this could be fixed by giving uploaders the option (or requirment) to select one full-size image to be the display image for the browse page.

That criticism aside, I think you're on to a great idea. We still have the old search option available, so it's great to have a choice there.

Thanks!

Zipperface

I like it. At lest as it doesn't screw up the old way. The option is there and it was a bit redundant. Me, I like the old way, but then I'm old … ish And here, just for you, because it is awesomely annoyingjavascript:void(0);

Hello from SXSW. I actually live at ground zero.

Joker

testing: if you select "Sort by latest torrent first" it shows just one pic for each torrent, ordered by latest first.
also no recycled torrents are shown here

unfortunately we cannot choose "the cover" and other interesting attributes yet

i also added the size of the torrent, time_ago uploaded and the amount of seeders / leechers for more information

i have not much time to work on. Stay tuned.

shdwrulr

Wow, nice. Those changes made a huge difference in usability.

bluemisiek

At first i was like - what the f… - but after reading your explanation i must admit - i like that idea. Certainly, it can't replace the regular browsing/search page, but it's a really cool alternative.

Some ideas of how you could improve it in my opinion:
1. add information about what it is and how it works
2. add some customization:

'select all' button
(maximum) picture size
nb of pictures per page
nb of pictures per torrent to be shown
a switch of whether to show covers or just random pics
3. Some time ago i proposed to revive the tagging system (https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=18172.0). It seems you've improved your initial idea and implemented it in a slightly different way (after downloading the torrent we vote for 5 categories it should belong to). As i'm not entirely sure how it works (If i select to see only >twink< category, will the conventional browsing page / the new browsing page show me also torrents uploaded to the >twink< category that have been voted bareback?), maybe you could add sorting by tags too, if applicable.
4. A search box. This way i could see in pictures all >twink< videos starring "Jordan Fox".
5. OR => AND/OR,NOT. As far as i know currently the OR function is in use. If i select >twink< and >military< categories it shows torrents from either of those categories. It'd be nice though to be able to use another logical funtions. This way i could see all movies that are both >military< and >twink< or an another example - all >bareback< films that are not >asian< (but to be honest the switch between OR and AND would be totally sufficient)

Good job guys. Greetings,
Mike