Rationator 3.0 Torrent Download Permissions

amelia

I really hate this new rule…. IT SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

I HATE “daily download limit” rule
and I REALLY Can't see the benefits of doing so

amelia

I only check this site once a week. So, when I want to download torrent files, most of the time it would definitely exceed my torrent download limit!. It sucks! Remove it, or else all of us will experience less seeders and leechers for every torrent…

spacecowboy

Hi I have problem with the torrent download limit I get this message

You downloaded 8 torrent(s) in the past 24 hours

You are allowed to download 8 torrent file(s) per 24 hours. This is based on your share ratio of 1.555 and 0 uploaded own torrent(s).

More infos about our ratio system can be found here

However I have only downloaded 4 Torrents In the last 24 Hours

Popper

The system did count 8 downloads of a .torrent file, means 8 times clicked on the "Download" button or the three green down arrows in the "Search" or "Browse" lists …

DmnFx

I too am not particularly fond of the new rationator limits on .torrent file downloads… I'd much rather have it the other way due to the fact, that I'm good about keeping my ratio at a reasonable level, and the fact that even though I download the torrent files, it doesn't mean that I start the torrent immediately... I'm good at keeping track of my ratio... Anyways, I know the admins have their reasons. But for those of us, that do what we are supposed to do by keeping our ratio up, and managing our downloads, it's a major hinderance. Especially when there are free leech torrents to grab. Sadly it seems as though, those of us that are aware of our ratio, are being punished for those that aren't.

Just my 2 cents.
DmnFx

Popper

There will be a change in the implementation, which will allow members with good share ratio more torrent file downloads.

Means not based on a members minimum share ratio, but on it's actual share ratio.

spacecowboy

well the only torrents I clicked on to download was the torrents that I actually downloaded which was 4 here are the dates and times

2013-08-02 02:21:38
2013-08-02 02:37:23
2013-08-02 02:39:38
2013-08-02 02:44:13

The last torrent I downloaded before those was on 2013-07-27 22:12:48 a good 5 days later

How long do I have to wait before I can download again.

Also I don't mean to be rude buy this But if this is going to keep on happening I might have to consider deleting my account

GOALLYEAH

@Popper:

@GOALLYEAH:

I HATE “daily download limit” rule
and I REALLY Can't see the benefits of doing so

You shouldn't feel limited, because your share ratio will allow you to get daily 25 torrent files, while it looks you complete less than 4 downloads daily. I don't see how these allowances will be exceeded by you.

last I check I get daily 8 torrent files not 25

maybe because my Download amont< 250 GB

due to the new rationator limits on .torrent file downloads
I CAN'T download the torrent files
although I don't start the torrent immediately

I like to download the .torrent files

managing my downloads on my own terms

Popper

The developers built in a security that the same torrent file is counted only once and your amount is manually corrected.
thanks for the feedback.

Popper

There was the word "will" in my sentence, means the changes to the system are not yet effective. They will be slightly different to what I said.

The basic amount of torrent file downloads will still be based on the minimum share ratio of a user. In your case 8.

Then to this amount will be added the difference of the actual share ratio multiplied by the basic amount, with a limitation of the maximum multiply to a certain value, e.g. 3. Further the system maximum will be increased, means own torrent uploads can largely increase the limit.

So in your example:
base amount + ((share ratio - minimum ratio) * basic amount) = torrent files due to share ratio

8 + ((1.13 - 0.50) * 8 ) = 13.04 > rounded to next integer = 13

The minimum allowance for users with download rights is 1, even if they don't meet the minimum ratio requirement.

spacecowboy

Cheers Popper thanks for sorting this

Popper

The thanks belong to the developers, I am just the messenger…

Riddler

Here is the 2nd rationator formula for personal download limits (with EXAMPLE):

(1) Amount of download determines minimum ratio requirements (if DL = 380 GB –---- minimum ratio requirement = 0.6, allowing for 11 downloads/day), plus

(2) Amount of ratio above the minimum ratio requirement (Actual Ratio = 1.3 ------- subtract minimum from actual ratio = 0.7; then multiply by the amount of downloads per day of your minimum ratio requirement ---- 11 downloads/day * 0.7 = 7.7, round up = 8 additional downloads/day), plus

(3) Number of total uploads (# uploaded torrents = 23, which increases download limit on a 1:1, so 23 additional downloads/day)

TOTAL (Personal Download Limit Per Day) = 11 + 8 + 23 = 42 downloads

MAXIMUM DOWNLOAD LIMIT PER DAY = 50

I would encourage users to consider the many issues faced by the website staff, such as cheaters and seed hogs (seedbox users) that reduce fairness for ALL users on the site. Changes and modification aren't made arbitrarily and typically have good reason/s behind it. The site always listens to feedback to improve. Constructive commenting is always welcome. Whining to whine is never helpful. New developments always requires testing and revision. We appreciate everyone's patience and support as we try to work out a balance between all issues and factors in running the site.

Riddler

Refer to response here:

https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=20541.msg95768#msg95768

bitmania

I think these changes are quite reasonable, particularly with the second update of factoring in your share ratio. I may be alone here but downloading more than 25 torrents a day seems exorbitant. And with the formula its not hard to get to that limit.

Also I wanted to know what happened to the most wanted/popular torrents section? Sometimes I would intentionally download crap I wasn't into to help increase my uploaded GB.

cannonmc

I know I'm dumb but this makes me feel even dumber. I haven't a clue what all that arithmetic is about.

I'm not even sure whether people are talking about downloading the tiny torrent file or sharing the torrent behind it.

And if there are 'good reasons' behind any site changes, why not share them with us….please :cry2:

Riddler

@bitmania:

I think these changes are quite reasonable, particularly with the second update of factoring in your share ratio. I may be alone here but downloading more than 25 torrents a day seems exorbitant. And with the formula its not hard to get to that limit.

Surprisingly, several individuals have expressed concern about no longer being able to download 100 torrents a day. WHAT?. . . HOW?. . . WHY. . does someone need to download 100 torrents a day? I think maybe they go for weeks without looking over torrents and then want to do it all at once. Hoarding issues maybe? Just don't know. ;D

@cannonmc:

I know I'm dumb but this makes me feel even dumber. I haven't a clue what all that arithmetic is about.
I'm not even sure whether people are talking about downloading the tiny torrent file or sharing the torrent behind it.
And if there are 'good reasons' behind any site changes, why not share them with us….please :cry2:

A major factor has been hit and runs. An individual opens a new account, downloads as much as possible without uploading/seeding and then dumps the account after it becomes locked from low ratio. This is not fair to other members who take care of their ratio.

Now, this is no longer possible. With this change, if someone wants to do some major downloading, they can only do so after showing good membership behavior over time. However, if someone wants to quickly change their daily download limit, they can rapidly do so by first doing some uploading, which permanently increases the number of downloads per day. It's the fairest way to address the issue, not interfere with good members ability to enjoy the site and to prevent individuals who want to cheat by doing hit and runs.

Popper

Hit and run account opening / closing is an issue to open sign-up. Having control on that behaviour will allow for more open sign-up periods, something which is intended to be the future.

In addition this system will give yet another reason to upload own torrents. Currently there are too few uploader of own torrents.

I can understand if some members will find the system to restraining. In that case, they should think if **Gay-Torrents.**net with open sign-up and no minimum ratio requirements isn't the better site for them.

Personally I keep membership on all major English board language torrent sites.

BTW: Does anybody know a Spanish gay torrent tracker?

Speedmaster8

@cannonmc:

I know I'm dumb but this makes me feel even dumber. I haven't a clue what all that arithmetic is about.

I'm not even sure whether people are talking about downloading the tiny torrent file or sharing the torrent behind it.

And if there are 'good reasons' behind any site changes, why not share them with us….please :cry2:

I would like as well re-question if the "new" system is based on the downloaded torrents-files ( *.torrent ), or does it include the download time from the files behind the torrents as well? I think I'll never reach the max. allowed ones anyway, but it might be interesting for other users.

Besides the strange way of calculation, do you really think, that you are going to change the way, "hit and run" - users act? Due to fact that you wrote, that you plan to do more open sign-in periods, the cheaters and hit-and-run - users will return, but I don't assume that their behaviour change, only because you are implementing a more complicated way of haunting. As well this doesn't increase the numbers of uploads, because cheaters and hit-and-run users won't become uploaders, just because their accounts got disabled or restricted.
On the other hand, your regulary users get frustrated and irritated because of the whole lot in controlling their up- and download behaviour and especially in times, where the world press discuss "prism" and "tempura" or other surveillance systems around the world, your users will in fact look for other tracker - possibilities, because they are fed up with restrictions and surveillance! :afr2:

I am on no other gay torrent - site and I even didn't look for another tracker, as GTru was temporary closed, but I really think, that you should stop your haunting-efforts at this point. The "normal" rationator is sufficient and if there still had been some cheaters or some hit-and-run - users - so what? They are not as regular as the "normal" users and we all know, that there are some black sheeps between the white ones.

Riddler

@Speedmaster8:

I would like as well re-question if the "new" system is based on the downloaded torrents-files ( *.torrent ), or does it include the download time from the files behind the torrents as well? I think I'll never reach the max. allowed ones anyway, but it might be interesting for other users.

Besides the strange way of calculation, do you really think, that you are going to change the way, "hit and run" - users act? Due to fact that you wrote, that you plan to do more open sign-in periods, the cheaters and hit-and-run - users will return, but I don't assume that their behaviour change, only because you are implementing a more complicated way of haunting. As well this doesn't increase the numbers of uploads, because cheaters and hit-and-run users won't become uploaders, just because their accounts got disabled or restricted.

On the other hand, your regulary users get frustrated and irritated because of the whole lot in controlling their up- and download behaviour and especially in times, where the world press discuss "prism" and "tempura" or other surveillance systems around the world, your users will in fact look for other tracker - possibilities, because they are fed up with restrictions and surveillance! :afr2:

I am on no other gay torrent - site and I even didn't look for another tracker, as GTru was temporary closed, but I really think, that you should stop your haunting-efforts at this point. The "normal" rationator is sufficient and if there still had been some cheaters or some hit-and-run - users - so what? They are not as regular as the "normal" users and we all know, that there are some black sheeps between the white ones.

Daily download limit = # completed downloaded files –----- it has nothing to do with the ".torrent" file or download time.

The new system integrates upload and download requirements that other sites are likely to follow. The method has already proven itself to the staff in just a matter of days, as the hit and runners are being caught in larger numbers with minimal downloading having occurred. It's actually very effective. Fortunately or unfortunately site users don't see all the issues that staff and admin have to contend, but no one benefits and everyone loses from hits and runs except for cheaters.

If a hit and runner can no longer cheat easily, they will be forced to make one of 2 decisions. Join as a good member or leave GTRU alone. This is a win-win scenario, except maybe not so good for individuals who want to continue cheating. Since modification #2 we have had ZERO complaints by regular users. And there are future modifications that may occur to the benefit of regular users with additional testing. The "normal" rationator was insufficient and why it was necessary to develop a more sophisticated fairness system.