Cleveland Clinic pre-print study: Flu vaxx attract flu
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Flu vaxx have pattern like covid vaxx.
At first, vaxx protects you - just a little. Then it wanes. Then it anti-protects you or attracts infection.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.30.25321421v3
Employees of Cleveland Clinic in employment in Ohio on October 1, 2024, were included...
Among 53402 employees, 43857 (82.1%) had received the influenza vaccine by the end of the study. Influenza occurred in 1079 (2.02%) during the study. The cumulative incidence of influenza was similar for the vaccinated and unvaccinated states early, but over the course of the study the cumulative incidence of influenza increased more rapidly among the vaccinated...calculated vaccine effectiveness of −26.9%...
This study found that influenza vaccination of working-aged adults was associated with a higher risk of influenza during the 2024-2025 respiratory viral season, suggesting that the vaccine has not been effective in preventing influenza this season.
"Calculated effectiveness of negative 27%"
It would be nice if these shit products worked, but they don't. Recall that Saint Fauci got his 3rd covid infection after his 6th jab (4th booster).
Why don't they? I've covered mechanisms, several times before. To keep it brief: RNA viruses - like HIV, covid, flu, RSV - commonly evolve too fast for for vaxx products to keep up. (Measles seems to be 1 exception, a slower-evolving RNA virus).
In such cases, the more you vaxx, the more you over-train your immune system for fights it will never face (old extinct versions) & leave it vulnerable to fights it will face (latest version).
Picture glorious Fencing champion who trained endlessly, but can't handle street mugger & his knife.
But these shit products, sure protect pharma corporations. Their finances.
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For those who like to watch.
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This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed
Until the study has been peer-reviewed, the study results are not reliable. Who knows what kind of biases or mistakes the researchers might have made?
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@thangcuoi Oh, it will pass.
Because, Cleveland Clinic studies tend to be large, strong studies that pass. & other studies also found this general pattern, in covid & flu vaxx.
You just don't want to believe it. (yet)
But either way, if I am still around, I'll try to post a follow-up here.
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For fun, AI was asked if measles evolves slower than flu? (both RNA virus)
Yes, the measles virus evolves slower than many other RNA viruses, like influenza. Measles, caused by a morbillivirus, has a relatively stable genome due to its high fidelity RNA polymerase and strong selective pressure to maintain its antigenic structure for human infection. Its mutation rate is estimated at around 0.9–1.1 × 10⁻⁴ substitutions per site per year, which is lower than influenza's rate of ~1–5 × 10⁻³. Influenza evolves faster due to antigenic drift and shift, driven by a more error-prone polymerase and broader host range, allowing rapid adaptation. Measles' slower evolution contributes to the long-term effectiveness of its vaccine.
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