Yet more proof of black & female privilege - black woman on train abusing white man

blablarg18

@pmrrk said in Yet more proof of black & female privilege - black woman on train abusing white man:

You need a permit to preach on the street

And? You evade his point.

Street preachers are often treated differently - depending on Christian or Muslim.

Your argument is flawed and oozing with bias

Actually, yours is.

(See how that works? To judge or merely declare your opponent or opponent's argument as stupid, is 2-way street)

Women are being killed...for being women every day.

Evidence, please. Show us last time any murderer said "I hate that woman for being woman - specially that, specially my preference for men over women." Hint: it'll be rare. Trans or Gay serial killer - they happen - but more common in movies or novels, you know, "Buffalo Bill" in that movie.

Murderers usually have other motive - get drugs or money, gang revenge, silence a witness, etc.

Oh wait - in Communist China they'd kill girl babies - so, you could argue that girls are killed "for being girls" under, you know, Communism. But I doubt you want to.

People of colour are being killed more than Caucasian people every day for being people of colour.

In USA, 95% of Blacks killed, are killed by Blacks. Black-on-Black violence. 95%

Black Lives Matter - why do they never talk about that?

I feel like I made a good argument about how current trends influence discourse, so I'm not going to repeat it all again, but I will say that one idiot's prejudice does not mean the white overlords are in trouble. If you're scared of black people, just talk to one. You'll soon realise how tedious the discourse is when you have to repeatedly say that some people having rights doesn't mean you lose your rights..

Word salad. Your ideology doesn't even make sense & you begin to feel it.

pmrrk

@blablarg18 sadly, I don't keep a catalogue of examples of hate crimes in my back pocket. I'm a support worker, not a journalist.
That said, I don't know where to start with the black on black crime allegation. Maybe I could tempt you into searching up Generational Trauma?
Also, as a final note, I still think that woman was an idiot. I don't think it's worth tarnishing an entire population with that same brush as that one idiot.

Also, as a side note, I'm genuinely sorry for resorting to accusing you of bias. I don't know you and shouldn't have made it personal.

raphjd

@pmrrk

The woman is an idiot.

That being said, in the UK, if the race and gender were reversed there would have been an arrest and jail time. That is the privilege I spoke of.

This is why liberals stopped using equality and started using equity. Equity is liberal code for special rights.

blablarg18

Wow, this "reframes" things.

I'd disagree with it because entire concept of "races" is dumb to begin with. Color blind, is right way to go.

Still, it made me stop & think.

pmrrk

@blablarg18 Again, I ask you to research generational trauma.

blablarg18

@pmrrk Again, it applies to everyone. To racialize it or believe in "races" and who's racially better, helps no one.

pmrrk

@blablarg18 in the context of this thread, it is racial. It could be said the same for Irish people, Syrian people, Czech people, Nigerian people. The original poster said that this black woman is using her black "privilege" to be an arsehole. Then the conversation went on to who does the most crimes racially (which I think should be judged more on a caste system which is designed to impoverish people of a lower caste to empower the higher caste who still perform crimes, but can pay their way out of incarceration, thus making crime pie charts obsolete)

So, yeah... she was a dickhead who used generational trauma to be inconsiderate on public transport. Is it trauma's fault? No. Is it this individual's fault for not taking responsibility of her own self? Yep.

And that's how you cure societal injustices. Through a forum about wanking over pretty men.

raphjd

@pmrrk

I also said she used her female privilege, not just her black privilege for the reasons I already stated.

Generational Trauma is garbage.

GT allows certain groups to get away with things other groups can't.

Black people get to use GT as an excuse, but Slavic people (enslaved en mass by the Ottomans) do not. That is black privilege. Slavs being enslaved started before and lasted longer than the western slavery of black people.

Likewise, women get all manner of excuses to justify their bad behavior.

blablarg18

@raphjd Exactly. To extent Generational Trauma is real, it "should" excuse everybody - even Whites.

That it's applied so selectively for 1 race, indicts it. / shows Privilege

@pmrrk Good luck. I don't even know what to make of your last comment.

Closest I can get: you argue that it's only 1 dumb person on a train?

Fair.... except Black & Female Privilege have countless more examples...... with, perhaps, overall point that "Privilege" concept is as meaningless & unhelpful, if we're being honest, as GT concept.

pmrrk

@blablarg18 I suppose there'd be more examples of white male privilege, but they are all so pure and innocent. White, even.

blablarg18

@pmrrk Feel free to post specific examples. Do it.

You won't want to touch college admissions, though.

Harvard got so biased in favor of Black & Latin, against White & Asian, that USA Supreme Court had to slam them.

Bottom 20% of Harvard Black applicants (bottom 20% by academic measures among Black peers only), had better chance, than top 20% of Harvard Asian applicants (top 20% by academic measures among Asian peers only).

Now that is privilege.

Surveys show that, on college applications, students don't lie to exaggerate their Whiteness. They lie to exaggerate their Blackness. Think on that. White doesn't get them ahead.