St. Donald

[rayban099]

@blablarg18 said in St. Donald:

Even now, your tactics are dirty.
What I have not said:

you're worst person on earth
you're inferior
you don't deserve to live

What I have said:

you've been a clown here
Lazy Judgy Concern Troll

Said after I see you in action & you call me & others liar several times, whilst you claim to be "polite" - and indeed set up yourself as Arbiter of Truth - whilst you spout lies, some you proudly source from known liars (eg. Fake News CNN).
You'd like me to back down & feel guilty, just because I see you & respond accurately....... so........you try to put your own words in my mouth.
My answer is: NO

My tactics weren't dirty. I was going through some things.

I've responded to your queries. You'll notice that I didn't reference CNN once. Imagine that.

[rayban099]

@rayban099 There are posts that I haven't responded to in this topic. Do you want me to or are we finished?

[lololulu19]

@rayban099 I am not going to waste my time refuting your attempts to excuse the abuses of the democrats - like putting lipstick on a pig. I will point this out though. Byrd was extremely racist, fought against the civil rights bill in 1964, and in 1997 warned his fellow politicians to avoid getting labelled as a member of the KKK for POLITICAL reasons.
Also, in regards to Hillary, her mentors were Byrd and the queen of abortion - eugenicist Margaret Sanger - whose premise for abortion was to reduce the black population - and compared black people to WEEDS that must be eliminated.

[rayban099]

@lololulu19 You're entitled to hold your beliefs. As am I. Thanks for the information.

I was just going to leave this there, but I need to bring something up. If Democrats are secretly racist and attempting a genocide of the black population by abortion, why are Democrats the party that pass laws that benefit minorities? They support policies like Diversity, Equality, Gay marriage, the right to choose, allowing individuals to worship as they please. Rumors about Democratic secret activities or goals don't hold as much weight as the laws that they pass and the public actions that they take. If the secrets become public, then I'll change my mind. But, rumors shared on the Internet in social media or chat groups just aren't sufficient to affect my opinion.

It's also a bit perplexing that the grounds that are presented as reasons to hate Democrats is because they associate with certain people who are awful. Hilary may have associated with someone involved with eugenics. Biden associated with Byrd, a confirmed bigot. Does that mean Hilary is unable to make up her mind on what is right or wrong? Or, that Biden is automatically a bigot because he attended a rally with Byrd? Hilary and Biden's actions don't implicate them in nefarious activities.

Trump had dinner with a white supremacist. That doesn't mean he is a bigot. Only his actions would indicate that he's racist. Calling Mexicans rapists and thugs coming to kill our kids and take our jobs is racist. Calling immigrants poison to the blood of America is racist. But, his association with Nick Fuentes doesn't, in and of itself, make him racist.

[lololulu19]

@rayban099 is this a late April Fools joke?

The outlets you listed that say Biden's poll numbers went up are the White House itself (surprise surprise), CNN and other leftist propaganda machines.

Why don't you just quit posting your crap, and go with the flow?

Biden has an excellent chance of winning the 2024 election. Not because he is competent, not because he has more support, but because the DNC machine are the world's greatest cheats, and have mastered dozens of techniques of fraud in elections. Just the fact that the democrats claim there was NO fraud in the 2020 election - proves that they are liars. There is fraud in EVERY election, committed by BOTH sides. The difference is, that in 2020, the democrats managed to steal an election with massive fraud on many levels. The courts were afraid to even have trials about it, there were hearings, and the leftist judges in those crooked states would not allow the hearings to go to actual trials.

[blablarg18]

"accredited information" - again, HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahaha

I don't believe any polls - but @lololulu19 you have right idea.

2020 was determined by massive cheating.

2024 will be determined by same again....... or....by defeat of same.

Either way, USA majority support Trump & NO WAY Biden got to 81 million, lawfully. (which is why he never brags on it)

Polls are media-framing game. Election steal - if it happens or if it is defeated - needs to seem plausible.

A fake headline "Biden is ahead in polls!" will help election corruption seem more plausible - at least among peeps who mouth slogans like "accredited information" to willfully make themselves more stupid

[raphjd]

@rayban099

Democrats passed the most homophobic laws the US ever had under Clinton. DOMA even broke the Full Faith And Credit Clause of the US Constitution. DADT created with hunts in the military. The Religious Freedom Restoration Act is still the law of the land.

Then, of course, we have Biden's 1994 crime bill.

Since 1971, Dems promised us legal protections in work and most other areas and they never came through, even when they controlled the White House, both houses of Congress, and the Supreme Court.

We can find racist comments from most Dems.

You can defend them however you want, but it doesn't change the facts.

[rayban099]

@lololulu19 I'm going to reset the conversation on my side.

Hi, I'm rayban099. I'm a registered independent voter. I'm a 52, retired, African American gay male and a member of the site since 2014. I don't usually engage on forums because they don't always promote mental health. I got curious about this forum because there are topics which discuss rare and unusual videos that I may be interested in checking out. But, the post about Trump selling Bibles piqued my interest.

I grew up in the South. I've been called the N-word by more Southern, Christian, Republicans than I can shake a stick at. The rhetoric of the Southern Republicans is often repeated by MAGA Republicans. In particular, that blacks are lazy, stupid and criminal. That blacks make poor choices resulting in broken and fatherless homes that forces their children to be thugs or hookers which contribute nothing of value to society. Oh, and also, that I'm one of the good ones because I'm not like that. I've lived in Kentucky, Massachusetts, North Carolina, Colorado and Australia. Colorado was my favorite place to live because of all of the sunlight and genuinely happy people. When I moved to Australia, I was actually shocked by the fact that on the nightly news, where the lead stories were about the most outrageous crimes committed locally the criminals where always white. Growing up in the South, those same news segments always featured blacks. It totally reset my way of seeing the world. The things that I was told growing up about my race weren't actually true.

This is why I'm not going to go with the flow. I believe in what can be proven. Not rumors, not conjecture. Facts. I've read the court reporting related to fraud in the elections. You have misquoted every expert who has made public statements regarding those hearings. It is acknowledged that fraud occurred during the 2020 election. But, the fraud wasn't determinative. Meaning that people cheated, but there weren't enough cheats to change the results. Also, that the cheaters were caught and their impacts to the outcome were rectified. If you're interested, I can share that reporting.

[blablarg18]

@rayban099 "I'm going to reset the conversation on my side" - rather than apologize?

Remember: When you began you said people here lie & believe lies, wringed your hands how things got so far off topic (when YOU took them there), claimed to respect conservative ideals etc. - Concern Troll behavior.

As to your biography: Can't speak for anyone else - but I give it zero credence. Anonymous forum. Anyone cheater can pop up, any time, making any self-claim in hopes people will then treat him different or feel intimidated.

We've even had morons here who flail & self-contradict - as they claim to be respected English professors & lawyers.

Rise or fall on strength of what you want to say.....not by identity, biography & not by claims to "accredited information" or claims to what wonderful virtues you have in your own search for truth, that (you say) others lack.

When it comes to your good points (if any): "Show, don't tell."

& remember people can scroll up to what you said earlier

"But, the fraud wasn't determinative" <-- PURE CONJECTURE - from you

Ever-more powerful evidence of fraud has not been presented in court; cases always dismissed on technical grounds ie. prior to evidence phase.

Why should anyone believe your claims - when you rail against conjecture & conspiracy theory even as you do them ?

[rayban099]

@raphjd You are absolutely right. Democrats are responsible for some homophobic legislation. So are Republicans. The difference is, Democrats aren't CURRENTLY promoting homophobic, autocratic legislation. But, Republicans are. I'm making any decisions on how to vote based on the current platforms of the two parties and what works best for me. Right now, Republicans are supporting a man who has been adjudicated as a rapist (sexual assaulter), and a fraud. He has also called for the termination of the constitution because he thinks he lost the election unfairly. I'm still waiting for him to provide proof that the election was stolen. He's cancelled at least two press conferences where he promised to deliver the proof. The investigation of the events leading to and including Jan 6 indicate that he wanted there to be disputes regarding the Electoral certification. That's not counting any allegations that he instigated the insurrection.

You've done an excellent job of rehashing old news of how Democrats screwed up in the past. Please take some time to help me understand what Republicans are doing currently to make things better. How are they promoting a cohesive, united society where everyone is treated fairly and no-one is demonized or viewed as second class citizens.

[raphjd]

@rayban099

Repubs are not passing laws that cause more hatred of us, like the Dems are doing.

Support of LBGT is dropping, due to the insanity of the left.

Dems have made it so unsafe to live in blue areas by allowing criminals to roam free.

Dems (liberal leaders across the west) have caused the cost of living crisis.

Taxes are going up to pay for the illegal immigrants flooding the west.

[rayban099]

@raphjd Please provide references. Everything I've read actually refutes what you've said. As I've already spent time providing references in previous posts, I'm not going to do it again without reciprocation.

[blablarg18]

Oh noes! HOW WILL I LIVE, if we can't please @rayban099 ????!!