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      rayban099 @raphjd
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      @raphjd Unfounded information is information from sources which aren't accredited. Please share accredited information to indicate that Russia didn't receive information from Paul Manafort while he was associated with the Trump Campaign prior to the 2016 election. If you do that, then that will be proof that there was no collusion with Russia.

      Because, I've read portions of the Mueller report. It is documented in the report, which is bound by oath of a Special Prosecutor, that Paul Manafort supplied campaign data to Russian agents. Since Mueller would be liable for perjury if he lied, I trust his report more than an announcement by Bill Barr where he didn't have the threat of perjury to prevent him from lying.

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        blablarg18 @rayban099
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        @rayban099 "accredited information" - Wow that is so far out, SOOOoooooo out of whack with reality, I may not even need to comment.

        @raphjd Hall of Fame item, one to join "true journalism" 🤣

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          rayban099 @blablarg18
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          @blablarg18 Is Trump innocent? Has he committed no crimes? Is he completely being railroaded by a corrupt system?

          Or, is it so obvious he committed crimes that the only recourse of people who support him is to make everyone else dirty. Defend Trump. You don't have to attack Biden if Trump is innocent. The only reason to bash Biden is because what Trump has done is obvious and indefensible.

          Regarding the other stuff. Have politicians on the left associated with racists and bigots, made bad policies, said inappropriate things in public, betrayed their oaths, acting as criminals? Well, hell yes they have. And, they were, are, and will be punished for it. That's exactly what I expect to happen, regardless of if they have a D or an R next to their name.

          While we're on the subject of racist guests, when did Biden have dinner with Nick Fuentes? Or, Ye? When did Biden say that he's on good terms with the enemies of the US like Putin and Xi? When did Biden say he would be dictator for a day? When did Biden say that the Constitution should be terminated because he lost an election and was treated unfairly.

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            blablarg18 @rayban099
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            "Is Trump innocent? Has he committed no crimes? Is he completely being railroaded by a corrupt system?" - Correct. Which is why he keeps going UP. People know it.

            And Nick Fuentes now? Really?

            Didn't you just say

            This thread started because Donald Trump is selling Bibles, now. At what point did this become about anything beyond that.

            Oops you're losing control.

            CLOWN 🤡

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              rayban099 @blablarg18
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              @blablarg18 What news sources do you trust? I'll check them out and see if they change my mind.

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                rayban099 @blablarg18
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                @blablarg18 Check the polls. People do know what's going on. It's beginning to show.

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                  blablarg18 @rayban099
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                  @rayban099 Oh plus you failed to answer my questions - Much less, to my satisfaction - using "accredited information" 🤣 🤣 which I will be judge of.

                  1. How lazy are you?

                  2. You can't search "Robert Byrd KKK" ?

                  3. You refuse to see any of Criminal Biden racist past (or present)......... and you think that puts burden on others? which you can sit back & be judge of?

                  4. What could Criminal Biden do to overcome his historic LOW approval rating & overcome Trump's lead in polls?

                  5. Would it help if Criminal spread less hate & division? (Yes)

                  6. Would it help if Criminal did less criminal shit? (Yes)

                  7. Would it help if Criminal helped USA peeps - rather than fund war 9,000 miles away that only kills hundreds of thousands of beautiful human beings, who might otherwise tell on Criminal & Son's bad conduct in that country? (Yes)

                  8. Would it help if Criminal didn't brag on economic data that has been faked? (Yes)

                  9. You are aware of your own posts - right?

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                    rayban099 @blablarg18
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                    @blablarg18 OK. I get it. You're the arbiter of truth. I won't bother. I admit defeat. You are the superior being. Thanks for treating me with the level of respect I deserve. It's been a pleasure.

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                      blablarg18 @rayban099
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                      @rayban099 "You're the arbiter of truth" - Lazy Judgy Concern Troll said to mirror.

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                        rayban099 @blablarg18
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                        @blablarg18 Even when you win, you attack. Well, aren't you special.

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                          blablarg18 @rayban099
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                          @rayban099 .... Lazy Judgy Concern Troll said to mirror

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                            rayban099 @blablarg18
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                            @blablarg18 I'm all the things you say I am and worse. I'm the worst human being to ever walk this earth and don't deserve to live anymore. I appreciate your insight. Well done.

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                              blablarg18 @rayban099
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                              @rayban099 ....Lazy Judgy Concern Troll said to mirror.

                              Not that it matters - but it would make my break hour, let's say - if you could just admit you were NEVER here for conversation or evidence, & your "accredited information" tack is so you can appoint yourself umpire - Everyone will have to please you 🤣 🤣

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                                rayban099 @blablarg18
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                                @blablarg18 Actually, I was here for conversation. I thought this place would be different than twitter. But, it's just the same. You haven't provided any evidence. And, you have already stated that you don't believe in journalism. When asked, you haven't provided any information on what sources of information you trust. You've called me a clown, discredited everything I said, without pausing to provide a single iota of data. You've ridiculed me. It's just like twitter, but worse because I really enjoy this site and didn't expect it.

                                I'm going to take some time and respond to every one of those things you've listed that I've ignored. It takes a long time to perform research and find evidence to support a position based on facts. It takes no time to lie. But, because I really enjoy this site, I'm going to go through the effort and actually find the data to support my beliefs. You won't believe them because they are facts provided by journalists, experts, and researchers. But, I don't know how you find out your proof so I can't use those sources to determine whether they are reliable.

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                                  blablarg18 @rayban099
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                                  @rayban099 Even now, your tactics are dirty.

                                  What I have not said:

                                  • you're worst person on earth
                                  • you're inferior
                                  • you don't deserve to live

                                  What I have said:

                                  • you've been a clown here
                                  • Lazy Judgy Concern Troll

                                  Said after I see you in action & you call me & others liar several times, whilst you claim to be "polite" 🤣 - and indeed set up yourself as Arbiter of Truth - whilst you spout lies, some you proudly source from known liars (eg. Fake News CNN). 🙄

                                  You'd like me to back down & feel guilty, just because I see you & respond accurately....... so........you try to put your own words in my mouth.

                                  My answer is: NO

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                                    lololulu19 @rayban099
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                                    @rayban099 Republicans tend to pass bills that benefit the entire country.
                                    Democrats tend to pass bills that pander to special interest groups, and are arbitrary handouts of huge amounts of money. The term for it is porkbarreling.

                                    The democrats also push for bills that will cripple corporate America, to give more power to the democrats - which is the goal of socialism / communism.

                                    As for Biden, it is painfully obvious that he is quite senile.

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                                      rayban099 @blablarg18
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                                      @blablarg18 As requested, a response to everything that I could.

                                      How lazy are you?

                                      You can't search "Robert Byrd KKK" ?

                                      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#:~:text=He first entered the political,Senate from 1950 to 1952
                                        He first entered the political arena by organizing and leading a local chapter of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s, an action he later described as "the greatest mistake I ever made."[7] He then served in the West Virginia House of Delegates from 1947 to 1950, and the West Virginia State Senate from 1950 to 1952.
                                        This statement was quoted from: "What About Byrd?". Slate. December 18, 2002. Archived from the original on October 1, 2007. Retrieved September 17, 2007.

                                      You refuse to see any of Criminal Biden racist past (or present)......... and you think that puts burden on others? which you can sit back & be judge of?

                                      • Biden has said racist things in the past. https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks
                                        But, he also says anti-racist things.
                                        https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-biden-speaks-at-church-in-south-carolina-where-black-congregants-killed-in-racist-attack
                                        https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/watch-live-biden-delivers-remarks-in-buffalo-on-racist-attack-that-left-at-least-10-dead
                                        https://www.npr.org/2020/05/22/861007175/biden-pulls-back-on-cavalier-remarks-about-black-voters

                                      What could Criminal Biden do to overcome his historic LOW approval rating & overcome Trump's lead in polls?
                                      If Biden is a criminal, why hasn't he been indicted?

                                      • The Republicans have been investigating his family for nearly 2 years. His son has been under investigation since Dec 2020. By Republicans. Surely if there were evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden, it would have been found within the past 3 years.
                                        https://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-hunter-biden-legal-political-scrutiny/story?id=102293605#:~:text="As expected%2C prosecutors filed charges,Lowell says in a statement.
                                        Polling data.
                                        https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-vs-biden-polls-joe-stopped-bleeding.html
                                        https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/

                                      Would it help if Criminal spread less hate & division? (Yes)

                                      • Examples of Biden messaging. (I've included articles which show unfavorable results for his messaging. Because, he's not perfect.)
                                        https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/2500401/president-stresses-unity-in-message-to-defense-department/
                                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/01/20/biden-inauguration-speech/#:~:text=President Biden pleaded for national unity in his inaugural address Wednesday after he was sworn in as the 46th president. Below is a full transcript of his remarks%2C with analysis from The Fix team.
                                        https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/03/08/fact-sheet-president-bidens-unity-agenda-for-the-nation/
                                        https://www.npr.org/2022/09/14/1123024034/bidens-pledge-to-unify-the-nation-is-falling-flat-some-voters-say

                                      Would it help if Criminal did less criminal shit? (Yes)

                                      I'm unable to find examples of Biden's criminal activities. I'll need you to help me out here.

                                      Would it help if Criminal helped USA peeps - rather than fund war 9,000 miles away that only kills hundreds of thousands of beautiful human beings, who might otherwise tell on Criminal & Son's bad conduct in that country? (Yes)

                                      • Cause of Ukranian war.
                                        https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-crossroads-europe-and-russia
                                        https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/what-caused-russia-ukraine-war-by-joseph-s-nye-2022-10
                                      • Root cause of allegation Bidens accepted bribes
                                        https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/special-counsel-charges-fbi-confidential-source-alexander-smirnov/story?id=107275129
                                        https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4471124-fbi-informant-at-heart-of-gops-biden-bribery-allegations-indicted-for-false-statements/
                                        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68313086
                                        If the source of the bribery allegation is actually Russian Intelligence and it is presented as fact by Republicans, do you think Republicans are actually agents of Russia or pawns?

                                      Would it help if Criminal didn't brag on economic data that has been faked? (Yes)

                                      What data has been faked? What proof is there that the data is fake? I'm unable to find any information to confirm that economic data is not valid.

                                      You are aware of your own posts - right?

                                      Obviously.

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                                        rayban099 @lololulu19
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                                        @lololulu19 said in St. Donald:

                                        Republicans tend to pass bills that benefit the entire country.

                                        • https://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/briefing-room/2023/04/20/congressional-republicans-legislation-22-cuts-that-would-harm-american-families-seniors-and-veterans/
                                          https://apnews.com/article/congress-border-security-ukraine-a39e188fa2c6a563203d2c69eaabdc6d
                                          https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2023/04/14/100-days-of-gop-rule--further-progress-required-
                                          https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/the-most-egregious-election-bills-that-republicans-introduced-this-year/

                                        Democrats tend to pass bills that pander to special interest groups, and are arbitrary handouts of huge amounts of money. The term for it is porkbarreling.

                                        • Democratic bills which have benefited the entire country.
                                          https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats
                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/-five-cash-benefits-democrats-climate-health-bill-rcna42315

                                        The democrats also push for bills that will cripple corporate America, to give more power to the democrats - which is the goal of socialism / communism.

                                        • I'm unable to substantiate this. Please provide examples of such bills.

                                        As for Biden, it is painfully obvious that he is quite senile.

                                        • That's not what people are saying after the SOTU.
                                          https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-raises-10-mln-24-hours-after-his-state-union-speech-2024-03-10/
                                          https://apnews.com/article/state-of-union-biden-gaza-ukraine-israel-1a42ff9d4ef3e0f2753e43ac8d39fc18
                                          https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/03/08/remarks-by-president-biden-in-state-of-the-union-address-3/
                                          https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/07/politics/takeaways-joe-biden-state-of-the-union-address/index.html
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                                          rayban099 @rayban099
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                                          @rayban099 Look guys. I'm a news junkie. I've been researching and analyzing data for more than 8 years. I don't always take the time to provide sources because I've found that most people on twitter don't care about the facts. They don't care if there is proof that disputes claims. They only care about winning the conversation and making the other person look like an idiot. My twitter feed is littered with such battles. I win more than I lose. And, when I lose it's because I choose to. Not because I can't find adequate facts.

                                          This type of battle is not something I expected on a site geared towards the LGBTQ community. I was honestly shocked. I thought that since a large segment of the planet hates us, we would love each other. That's not what just happened. I felt like I was talking to people who hate me for being me. I don't enjoy that feeling when I was hoping for community and acceptance. We don't have to agree on politics, but we should agree on treating each other civilly. You guys don't have to respond to any further messages. I just wanted to put this out there because it's how I genuinely feel.

                                          Oh, and for the record, I was contemplating suicide. But, I got help. My family came at me last week for being gay and it tilted my emotional balance. I came here for solace, but got the opposite. But, I'm a big boy and I can handle myself.

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                                            rayban099 @blablarg18
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                                            @blablarg18 said in St. Donald:

                                            Even now, your tactics are dirty.
                                            What I have not said:

                                            you're worst person on earth
                                            you're inferior
                                            you don't deserve to live

                                            What I have said:

                                            you've been a clown here
                                            Lazy Judgy Concern Troll

                                            Said after I see you in action & you call me & others liar several times, whilst you claim to be "polite" - and indeed set up yourself as Arbiter of Truth - whilst you spout lies, some you proudly source from known liars (eg. Fake News CNN).
                                            You'd like me to back down & feel guilty, just because I see you & respond accurately....... so........you try to put your own words in my mouth.
                                            My answer is: NO

                                            My tactics weren't dirty. I was going through some things.

                                            I've responded to your queries. You'll notice that I didn't reference CNN once. Imagine that.

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