Ivan Provorov controversy

blablarg18

https://twitter.com/FarmGirlCarrie/status/1615745857076461568

Sorry but

he's hot
if ur going to hate on "conservatives" or "toxic masculinity" or "religion" or "breeders", the world soon won't have any more of these beautiful genuine men for ur target practice
Gay Pride flag: once a symbol of freedom and tolerance, today in Clown World 2023 a symbol of intolerance & being a crybully

Honest people know.

blablarg18

raphjd

Under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (thank you Democrats), it gives the right for believers to use their beliefs as an excuse to violate the various non-discrimination laws that protect LGBTs. There is no legal right to discriminate against believers, race, creed, color, etc, etc, etc, etc. This gives a lopsided bigotry law.

Thanks to Scotland's former Justice Minister (Humza Yousef), Scotland now allows believers to be bigots against LGBTs if hey claim "but muh religion". As expected, this doesn't work both ways, though. There are no legal justifications under Scottish law that allows bigotry against believers, even if they use their religion to call for your death. Humza Yousef, over the last 16 years, has fucked up every department he's been the Minister of.

This causes me to have mixed feelings about this, and other, cases.

While I think Ivan should have the right to do what he did, I think the law should allow it the other way as well.

blablarg18

@raphjd We'd have to get more specific about these laws before I could take a stand either way.

In general I believe in freedom of association, freedom of expression, and having things be 2-way streets.

Freedom of expression - What an athlete wears should be a zero-viewpoint team uniform, then maybe add whatever viewpoint the individual wants. Not forcing them to add the viewpoints of others.

Freedom of association - If a landlord or employer is dumb enough to discriminate against me as a gay, I say let them. They're the idiot. It's on them. I'm a grownup, & tons of other landlords or employers will be better.

BUT - Equal protection - if we do have laws on the books blocking such discrimination, fine, let's enforce them equally on everyone. Don't be selective.

Example: if the law is used to stop a Christian's anti-gay discrimination...... but then is NOT used to stop a Muslim's anti-gay discrimination.... that's just wrong.

Apply same laws equally everywhere.

Likewise, if the law is used to force Christian bakers to make gay wedding cakes, in a spirit of equal application, the law should also force gay bakers to make Christian wedding cakes. I mean, if we're having such petty laws.

That's how I think in general.

raphjd

@blablarg18

Yeah, if we have Freedom of Association, then that should apply in all directions, not just a privilege for certain groups.