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    1,600 voters born 1900 or earlier voted in NC alone

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    • ManHandlerM Offline
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      Dude I don't have to stick to the title. It's one example of voter fraud, of which there are many, I was stating the latest. Not reading all that. You're a nasty person. You're making a long drawn out example of why you don't believe it, but you are not an authority on anything, and you ARE gaslighting. You know that it's very obvious, that if 125% of people voted in Nevada, that's fraud. It's obvious. You are a liar and a snake. It's basic common shit. If you have 100 people registered, 101 voting means there's fraud! Its very simple to understand and you're pretending that you don't. If 125 people voted, and only 100 people are allowed to vote, that means it's compromised. It's very fucking simple. I'm not sure why you want to lie but I feel like you have a dark spirit in you and trying to spread your darkness. Fraud is obvious. You are trying to make it sound like it's not true but it's self-evident.

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        Well then, I’m sorry to say but it looks like we can’t go any further with this.

        You’re not understanding what I’m saying, you don’t want to understand and you yourself say you don’t read anything I’ve written. As that’s extremely rude and you’re not a very good interlocutor, I’m going to stop this conversation.

        If you were trying to convince anyone here that voter fraud exists - you’ve failed.

        If you’re just here to shout and scream your views… I don’t think you should be here.

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          Ok bye. "If you were trying to convince anyone here that voter fraud exists… you failed." Well problem with that is that it's already been proven, multiple times. It's actually on the record hundreds of times. So you're a liar and a fraud yourself.  Everyone knows how easy it is to just look that info up, voter fraud... it does exist... hundreds of examples.

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            @ManHandler:

            Ok bye. "If you were trying to convince anyone here that voter fraud exists… you failed." Well problem with that is that it's already been proven, multiple times. It's actually on the record hundreds of times. So you're a liar and a fraud yourself.  Everyone knows how easy it is to just look that info up, voter fraud... it does exist... hundreds of examples.

            And now you're either being willfully dishonest or incredibly simple…

            As I've said, numerous times (if you had bothered to read what I had written), you would have seen I have indeed said that there is plenty of instances of small fraud that has been caught, prosecuted and dealt with.  And I have also said there is no wide-spread fraud and no evidence of it.  And, as I have also said, the one does not mean the other is happening (for clarity, as you seem to need it, small occasional fraud that gets caught does not mean that there is some wide-spread fraud having occurred).

            As we can see these cases have all been thrown out - with prejudice - I think we can all be content with the reality that there as no wide-spread voter fraud in this election, the claims that there was were all complete nonsense and spurious... and the USA now has a new president-elect.

            I do hope all this crying wolf will not dissuade people from being cautious in future and being mindful of and watchful for any sort of voter fraud.  A very dangerous thing to go around making spurious, nonsense claims that get thrown out in court over and over again... as that might indeed disuade people from listening in the future when there might be voter fraud.

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            • ManHandlerM Offline
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              It's not spurious. It's obvious. You're gaslighting. Ronna McDaniel has 500 affidavits with 11,000 examples of fraud. Just for this election. It's not ridiculous or absurd. These are people going on the record and testifying under penalty of purgery. The live hearing in PA today I heard was highly effective. You can call it what you want… nonsense or not... it's up to the jury and the court and the outcome, not you. You have already decided in your mind one way, and that's fine, but it's delusional.

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                Again, still not gaslighting… you really aught to look up what that term means before you keep using it. By all means, don’t believe me when I’ve already told you you’re using it incorrectly.. but at least look it up and check. ATM, your usage of it makes you sound like you don’t know the language we’re speaking in...

                I agree enteritis! It will indeed be up to the courts! So far, they have thrown out every single case.

                Hearings are very different things - and don’t have perjury issues within them (you can say what you like in a hearing!). But if the hearing decides that legal action should be taken, then the perjury issue comes to bear. You know this...

                Similarly, you can say whatever you like in a sworn affidavit - it’s only when they go into a court proceeding and your sworn in that it matters if you believe you’re lying or not... and affidavits are all about belief. If the person believes they aren’t lying, then that’s ok! But it doesn’t mean it won’t get thrown out (there are sworn affidavits that have gone to court with people who believe that they’re the second coming of Jesus Christ... for example...). Again, you should know this...

                So, so far, every court case for this has been thrown out of court for lack of evidence for what is being claimed. And yet, you still think that, for some reason, those court cases weren’t the ones that will matter... that, for some reason, the people pursuing those court cases decided to ignore all the “obvious” evidence that you claim is evidence (yet falls woefully short of what real evidence is to anyone else)... and yet you still think there will be a court case that suddenly decides in your favour... because of a bunch of people who make claims in their affidavits?

                Doesn’t sound terribly credible to me...

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                • ManHandlerM Offline
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                  Oh please. We knew this would go this way and go the SCOTUSl You're acting like all this is a surprise and just off the cuff. We conservatives said this would happen months ago. And it's happening exactly as we said it would. Too much evidence. You ignore all that.

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                    @ManHandler:

                    Oh please. We knew this would go this way and go the SCOTUSl You're acting like all this is a surprise and just off the cuff. We conservatives said this would happen months ago. And it's happening exactly as we said it would. Too much evidence. You ignore all that.

                    I’m sorry… I have no clue what you’re talking about here.

                    As far as I’ve seen, there was a whole bunch of people, led by Trump, who claimed (without evidence) that the democrats would try the to steal the election. And now, post Trump losing the election, they are claiming the Democrats have have stolen the election... and are still not providing any evidence for this (hence all the court cases being effectively thrown out). The recounts haven’t helped him (indeed have increased Biden’s lead...) and he just seems a bit like he’s desperately trying to con people into paying his campaign expenses for him with his funding pleas.

                    So, until someone can provide real evidence that will stand up in court (not stuff cooked up by a bunch of internet sleuths who evidently don’t know what they’re talking about) - then there doesn’t seem like any evidence at all that the democrats stole the election.

                    This constant crying of “no fair” really doesn’t fit with the image that you’re trying to portray of yourself either...

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                    • ManHandlerM Offline
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                      Dude you don't know what you're talking about. You're just another gaslighter. We already had one seat flipped due to fraud in MI.  Go ahead and deny. Just wait. I don't think you realize what's going on in any of the states. It's looking very bad for your side.

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                        @ManHandler:

                        Dude you don't know what you're talking about. You're just another gaslighter. We already had one seat flipped due to fraud in MI.  Go ahead and deny. Just wait. I don't think you realize what's going on in any of the states. It's looking very bad for your side.

                        You telling someone they don’t know what they’re talking about, whilst at the same time still using a term incorrectly is not a very good look… and indeed doesn’t make you very believable or credible.

                        How long will I need to wait exactly? Can you please tell me the specific seat that was flipped so I can check this information from the official sources to confirm it?

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                          Adam Kochenderfer, from the Detroit Free Press:

                          https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2020/11/06/oakland-county-election-2020-race-results/6184186002/

                          In Oakland County’s 15th County Commission District

                          Wasting my time looking this up and serving it to you on a silver platter.

                          6,000 votes switched because of proven fraud

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                            @ManHandler:

                            Adam Kochenderfer, from the Detroit Free Press:

                            https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2020/11/06/oakland-county-election-2020-race-results/6184186002/

                            In Oakland County’s 15th County Commission District

                            Wasting my time looking this up and serving it to you on a silver platter.

                            6,000 votes switched because of proven fraud

                            So if you have actually looked this up… as you claim... you would know the reason for this was not fraud, but error... and the error was human in origin... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/technology/no-software-glitches-are-not-affecting-vote-counts.html

                            So perhaps it wouldn't be such a waste of your time to actually look this stuff up, rather than desperately making claims about things that haven't happened?

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                              The New York Times is a far-left rag, everything they say is extremely suspect.

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                                The New York Times is a far-left rag, everything they say is extremely suspect.

                                Sure - so look for other sources.  I've found lots… won't take you long!  Including from the county itself, explaining this... painfully clearly... so everyone would understand.

                                Don't take my word for it... check!  And stop just listening to a tiny group of people who have been constantly proven to be wrong.

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                                • ManHandlerM Offline
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                                  Right… it was just an "accident." Shut up. That's dumb. Computers don't forget how to add 1 + 1.

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                                    @ManHandler:

                                    Right… it was just an "accident." Shut up. That's dumb. Computers don't forget how to add 1 + 1.

                                    Well, a computer can be programmed to do anything according to you… so...

                                    All joking aside, this is precisely why it is explained to be a human error... not a computer error.

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                                    • ManHandlerM Offline
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                                      Shut up. Computers don't forget how to add 1 + 1. You know it's bullshit.

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                                        @ManHandler:

                                        Shut up. Computers don't forget how to add 1 + 1. You know it's bullshit.

                                        Yeah… indeed I just said that...

                                        But sadly, people can...

                                        Hence the person having a problem.

                                        Literally, now you're only asking me to "shut up" everywhere... means you've got nothing else.  So we can safely ignore what you have to say.

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