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    10 Reasons Trump is the most PRO GAY President ever. (Cuz you lie)

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        ManHandler
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        Gender and Sexuality are two different things. ONE. It's one thing to allow gays in the military, it's another for others to join for free surgery at taxpayer expense, in addition to a multitude of other things like hormone therapy - what if they quit after receiving their free boob job? Many in the gay community view trans as a mutilation, so this is not against the gay community… it's against SOME in the gay community who think that gender and sexuality are all part of a big soup. I don't support trans in the military either, and I'm gay (but that doesn't mean I hate or dislike trans). I've had trans friends. Don't parade around like you are the spokesperson for the gay community. You're just using the mob to force the minority into submission (that's what libs do). I don't give a shit about groups as much as I do about individuals because one has become a fascist hive mind borg mentality, while the other represents freedom and liberty (the individual).

        You can get up here and claim that Trump hates trans... (he told Kaitlyn Jenner to use the bathroom of her choice at Trump tower), but we both know there is more to it than just feelings. There are costs associated, there is danger to the trans. You think you can just get up here and say Trump won't allow trans in the military (Trump hates LGBQT). Your argument is stupid and absurd. Notice he said after consultation with the military experts… they advised him it was a bad idea – and those were Obama holdovers, so gtfo. Sorry, but to a lot of people, trans is weird and strange and gross. It’s up to you to overcome the stigma. Good luck. People see through your nonsense.

        Maybe try talking to your friends over at the Satanic library readings on Sunday with drag and trans - convicted pedos - for kids. Like 99% of people think it's wrong, so your argument is totally invalid. Go tell them to behave and quit terrorizing families like many of ours. That's what you can do!

        How much does the military spend on one private at basic? Ten years ago I think it was 60K. How much will it cost for the surgery and the therapy and the special protection just so the dude can get his dick chopped off. Nobody is going to make him feel welcome and he'll just end up quitting (wasting the money invested). Then Ze will sue for discrimination and the military will have to shell out more money for lawyers. The other soldiers will resent Ze and look at Ze as though he's special (not equal), just due to the expense alone which could go up into the hundreds of thousands. It's not fair, and in that atmosphere, there's a pecking order. There is rank, but when you're the same rank as another person and you get more investment then they do... looks really bad. Well if Ze gets that much I should too! It's not just bad, it's dumb. NEXT! (Next time maybe one of you libs will actually put things in your own words for once. Right...)

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          raphjd Forum Administrator
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          The problem with trans in the military is that if they have the surgeries then they are either on bed rest or light duty for the whole 4-year contract.

          I have a solution to trans in the military.    If they join for surgery then they have to sign a 6-year contract to be served after they complete their transition in frontline combat units like with people that go to college on the military dime.

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            eobox91103
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            @ManHandler:

            It's one thing to allow gays in the military, it's another for others to join for free surgery at taxpayer expense, in addition to a multitude of other things like hormone therapy

            The military and VA spend much more on Viagra than they do on gender reassignment.  Military law in the US still criminalises fucking someone other than your spouse, but that doesn't stop them from giving blue pills to single guys or troops deployed thousands of kilometers from their wives.

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              stickyboy
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              @raphjd:

              Mabe he doesn't, but he hasn't done harm to us (and blacks) like the Dems have.

              Biiden has done direct harm to blacks, as has Harris, but you clowns support them.

              Anyone notice how Trump people can't actually say why they support Trump without mentioning the Democrats? I don't even like the Democrats, babe :afr:

              "Your house is on fire"
              "Well, your house is ugly."
              "But… your house is still on f-"
              "YOUR HOUSE IS UGLY"

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                ManHandler
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                @stickyboy:

                @raphjd:

                Mabe he doesn't, but he hasn't done harm to us (and blacks) like the Dems have.

                Biiden has done direct harm to blacks, as has Harris, but you clowns support them.

                Anyone notice how Trump people can't actually say why they support Trump without mentioning the Democrats? I don't even like the Democrats, babe :afr:

                "Your house is on fire"
                "Well, your house is ugly."
                "But… your house is still on f-"
                "YOUR HOUSE IS UGLY"

                Aww. You poor dear. I'd rather have an ugly house than one that's on fire. The comparison is black and white. Defund the police, higher taxes, omg I could go on. The most shitty polluted states while they claim to be environmentalists, the most crime, the most racist education system with the teacher's union and no school choice, lib governors sending covid patients to nursing homes. Yep, we're going to list all the stuff as a comparison. Big deal. You just did it, and that's literally all you do.

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                  ManHandler
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                  @eobox91103:

                  @ManHandler:

                  It's one thing to allow gays in the military, it's another for others to join for free surgery at taxpayer expense, in addition to a multitude of other things like hormone therapy

                  The military and VA spend much more on Viagra than they do on gender reassignment.  Military law in the US still criminalises fucking someone other than your spouse, but that doesn't stop them from giving blue pills to single guys or troops deployed thousands of kilometers from their wives.

                  The military also spends a lot on lobster and crab for their troops as a morale booster. Not all of that is active btw. A lot of it is retired men, and yes, being able to satisfy your wife is important. You just get on here saying Trump hates Trans because the military spends money on viagra, while totally ignoring all the facts - it's dangerous to the trans, they won't be welcome and will sue for discrimination - period - it will happen, and they'll quit after their free boob job. It's a joke. Your case is pathetic and ridiculous. Case DISMISSED as NONSENSE. There's a lot of military waste. That's been an issue way before Trump. Now you blame him for all the corrupt systems that have been set in place by his predecessors. Ridiculous - that's what you are.

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                    eobox91103
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                    @ManHandler:

                    The military also spends a lot on lobster and crab for their troops as a morale booster. Not all of that is active btw. A lot of it is retired men, and yes, being able to satisfy your wife is important. You just get on here saying Trump hates Trans because the military spends money on viagra, while totally ignoring all the facts - it's dangerous to the trans, they won't be welcome and will sue for discrimination - period - it will happen, and they'll quit after their free boob job. It's a joke. Your case is pathetic and ridiculous. Case DISMISSED as NONSENSE. There's a lot of military waste. That's been an issue way before Trump. Now you blame him for all the corrupt systems that have been set in place by his predecessors. Ridiculous - that's what you are.

                    You can't make an argument about facts…only by attacking other people.  I don't like to respond in kind, but here goes:

                    Take your vomit elsewhere.  Nobody wants it stinking up this forum.

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                      ManHandler
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                      You have no facts, whatsoever, just your opinions, all you do is pat each other on the back. It's a joke! Like your only list is: Trump's policy. WTF does that mean??? What SPECIFICALLY about his policy??? Get real dude. You have nothing, there's nothing to attack accept for the person posting NOTHING, thinking that they are actually posting something! Go back and read the list and tell me where yours is! You have NO LIST, that means you have NOTHING. You are a joke. We're listing facts, and you're saying: Russia collusion. You guys are so pathetic. There was a two year investigation that proved the only collusion was Hillary paying for fake stories from Russian agents. Hillary colluded with the Russians. That was the only fact. After two years. You are LOST.

                      "Trump harassed women." Ok, prove it!!! Some woman (a democrat) saying so isn't proof. People make wild claims against rich people all the time. You have to PROVE IT. Jesus Christ. Trump did this Trump did that. You never have proof! We do. That's the difference. You just make wild outrageous claims that no one believes anymore. You just believe it still because you have TDS.

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                        stickyboy
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                        @ManHandler:

                        "Your house is on fire"
                        "Well, your house is ugly."
                        "But… your house is still on f-"
                        "YOUR HOUSE IS UGLY"

                        Aww. You poor dear. I'd rather have an ugly house than one that's on fire.

                        The… the house on fire is the Trump house... Can't believe you didn't get that... It's such a simple analogy... I'm astounded you didn't get it...

                        My friends, I think these people are beyond saving.  :blink:

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                          eobox91103
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                          @ManHandler:

                          You have no facts, whatsoever, just your opinions, all you do is pat each other on the back. It's a joke! Like your only list is: Trump's policy. WTF does that mean??? What SPECIFICALLY about his policy??? Get real dude. You have nothing, there's nothing to attack accept for the person posting NOTHING, thinking that they are actually posting something! Go back and read the list and tell me where yours is! You have NO LIST, that means you have NOTHING. You are a joke. We're listing facts, and you're saying: Russia collusion. You guys are so pathetic. There was a two year investigation that proved the only collusion was Hillary paying for fake stories from Russian agents. Hillary colluded with the Russians. That was the only fact. After two years. You are LOST.

                          "Trump harassed women." Ok, prove it!!! Some woman (a democrat) saying so isn't proof. People make wild claims against rich people all the time. You have to PROVE IT. Jesus Christ. Trump did this Trump did that. You never have proof! We do. That's the difference. You just make wild outrageous claims that no one believes anymore. You just believe it still because you have TDS.

                          You absolutely don't get it, do you?  All you can do is make pathetic insults.

                          Wait…I hear something.  It's the kindergarten bell.  Better run off, or you'll be late.

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                            Obsidianitis
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                            The… the house on fire is the Trump house... Can't believe you didn't get that... It's such a simple analogy... I'm astounded you didn't get it...

                            My friends, I think these people are beyond saving.  Blinking

                            I know…. it's quite pathetic and funny at the same time  ;D

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                              ManHandler
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                              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Shut up you IDIOTS!!! Let's get back to the SUBJECT. You are DERAILING, AVOIDING, and DISTRACTING from the facts presented here and YOU are posting NOTHING as a response. You haven't refuted anything, you haven't provided anything but nonsense, and you know it damn well. YOU are trying to NOT answer, and playing the victim card. Oh boo hoo he called me an idiot. 😞 Discuss the topic! Though I don't actually expect that. Because your mental faculties are clearly incapable.

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                                eobox91103
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                                @ManHandler:

                                Discuss the topic!

                                My point exactly.  All you do is call names like a little brat.

                                I'll stop reading your stuff.  It takes too much toilet paper to clean up after.

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                                  raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                  @stickyboy:

                                  @raphjd:

                                  Mabe he doesn't, but he hasn't done harm to us (and blacks) like the Dems have.

                                  Biiden has done direct harm to blacks, as has Harris, but you clowns support them.

                                  Anyone notice how Trump people can't actually say why they support Trump without mentioning the Democrats? I don't even like the Democrats, babe :afr:

                                  "Your house is on fire"
                                  "Well, your house is ugly."
                                  "But… your house is still on f-"
                                  "YOUR HOUSE IS UGLY"

                                  Why can't we talk about Trump reversing the harm caused directly by Dems?!

                                  Also you clearl ignore that most liberals support Biden because he isn't Trump.

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                                    Why can't we talk about Trump reversing the harm caused directly by Dems?!

                                    The harm? what harm specifically? Destroying obama care and kicking millons out of affordable health care? eliminating hundreds of regulations that protect the consumer like environment protection regulation for corporations? Making the EPA a joke by appointing someone to direct it that has sued the EPA many times? Starting a trade war that hurt the poorest in this county (farmers and others) to then be subsidized and saved by the central government by handouts (socialism?)

                                    Also you clearl ignore that most liberals support Biden because he isn't Trump.

                                    So? He didn't even brought up Biden in his comment…. even if it's true (which it is in my case), how is this a problem?

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                                      ManHandler
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                                      @eobox91103:

                                      @ManHandler:

                                      Discuss the topic!

                                      My point exactly.  All you do is call names like a little brat.

                                      I'll stop reading your stuff.  It takes too much toilet paper to clean up after.

                                      Well, you're still not discussing the topic. Why even post? I'm pointing out that you're evading the subject, and what do you do? Evade the subject. Would you like to discuss one of the points? Like Trump donating money to AIDS research? Nope. Just more nothing. Where is your list?

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                                        Obsidianitis
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                                        Well, you're still not discussing the topic. Why even post? I'm pointing out that you're evading the subject, and what do you do? Evade the subject. Would you like to discuss one of the points? Like Trump donating money to AIDS research? Nope. Just more nothing. Where is your list?

                                        I'm gonna go ahead and not read your post and ignore you as promised. As mentioned by my fellow user "eobox91103":

                                        I'll stop reading your stuff.  It takes too much toilet paper to clean up after.

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                                          ManHandler
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                                          Well yea, because you can't answer. You have nothing. So who cares if you ignore me or not. We all can see right here in black and white that you have nothing important to say. You can't refute the points, you can't discuss them, you can't add anything, so go ahead and ignore! I don't care. You're keeping the topic alive and well by posting and when everyone who comes here will see it, that Trump is the most pro-gay President ever and you didn't have anything to negate that. Do you have anything to negate the points? Nope. You just don't. So you're going to "ignore me?" LOL You just didn't. You think that YOU ignoring me matters? Is that all you got? LOL "I'm ignoring you." That's NOT ignoring. You don't even know what you're doing.

                                          Ignore me. That'd be great. So you can stop convoluting this conversation away from the points. For the record, no one has negated any of the points and it stands. We don't need your opinion. Cool, ignore away. I would LOVE for you to just get lost, since you have literally NOTHING to add to the conversation. If you're not going to discuss the ten points, now eleven, then post somewhere else. Nobody cares about your opinion in the face of factual information. Leave - the conversation to the adults who think for themselves and can actually refute the points. You're just not up to the challenge. "I'm not going to read your post…" Yet you quoted me? Get real.

                                          If you want to ignore me, I don't care. I don't NEED YOU or YOUR OPINION.  BYE!!! Your opinion is not important. You're not offending me, you're not hurting my feelings, you're not making me feel "unloved." I don't need you. Nobody does. This is a conversation and you have literally nothing to add regarding it. Just get out of the way - I'm GLAD you're "ignoring," and it actually makes me very happy. I hope you just go away and don't pollute this subject with non-points. PLEASE, just get out of the commentary if you can't discuss the actual subject - which you are very clearly not. There are many other topics like licking armpits and pooping in someone's face, chasing a football, which you might be more suited for.

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                                            raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                            The harm? what harm specifically? Destroying obama care and kicking millons out of affordable health care? eliminating hundreds of regulations that protect the consumer like environment protection regulation for corporations? Making the EPA a joke by appointing someone to direct it that has sued the EPA many times? Starting a trade war that hurt the poorest in this county (farmers and others) to then be subsidized and saved by the central government by handouts (socialism?)

                                            WAIT did you totally ignore Biden's (signed by Clinton) pipeline to prison,, for profit prisons,, etc, etc, etc criminal justice bill?   Trump reversed much of that.

                                            Lot's of people had their insurance costs got up.  ObamaCare was stolen from Romney, the Rino.

                                            Flint, MI's water was a problem for virtually the entire Obama years.   The EPA failed the people of Flint for just over 8 years.

                                            The Dems gave us the 3 most homophobic laws the US ever had.  The Religious Freedom Restoration Act, authored by Sen Chuckie Schumer and signed by Clinton, is still a bane for the LGBT community.    You guys will get extremely butt hurt when businesses use that very law against us, but you guys will still slurp the stink eye of the Democrats.

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