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    Does bisexual really exsit?

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    • J Offline
      JohnAllenson
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      Pretty much, don't feed the trolls.

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      • raphjdR Offline
        raphjd Forum Administrator
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        I think the OP may be thinking about people that come out as Bi, only to later admit they are actually gay.

        Countless celebrities have done this, from Elton John to Tom Daley.  Not long ago, some Bi model came out as gay.

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          JohnAllenson
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          There are people who move from a stage of identifying as 'bi' before they come out as 'gay', but plenty of people who keep the identity of bi.  There are also people, most commonly women, who first identify of gay/lesbian then later realize that they're bisexual.

          The wording of the original question implies that someone is dishonest in calling themselves bisexual.

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            leeniedo
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            @flozen:

            Could be living in a cultural backwater, could need those 5 topic points for his low ratio, so tiresome…

            I choose the latter. 🙂

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            • raphjdR Offline
              raphjd Forum Administrator
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              He needs the bonus points, but he's not spamming.    He's posting 4 or 5 things every few days.

              From his IP address, he's from China.  This might explain his thoughts or it could explain his use of language.

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                flozen
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                Truly, I'm not in the habit of assigning generalities (good or bad) to cultures, but, having said that, I have experienced some very unsophisticated and antiquated remarks from particular regions on these boards.

                And at the same time, just as many ignorant and hateful remarks from posters on this site, who live in the developed world.  Perhaps the people from faraway lands, with English as their second language, deserve a bit more leeway.

                But to JA's point, yes, it still sounds like the Original Poster (OP) is looking down at the concept of bisexuality, but he may have very few resources from which to develop an opinion.

                Actually, interesting and cogent ideas from all – lee, raph, tt, -- god, what fucking magnificent armchair sociologists we are!

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                  beachbro
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                  I've been reading a book called "The Origins and Role of Same-Sex Relations in Human Societies" (it is available to download over here), and according to the author the true rarity amongst humans are the ones who are/ have been exclusively homo and heterossexual. According to Kinsey's studies the great majority of people have transited through either homo and heterossexual experiences/ desires in the present or past. To scientists it doesn't matter what you identify yourself as, it matters what you feel and have done/ do.
                  So yeah, scientifically speaking bissexuality not only exists, but it's actually the normative.

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                    eobox91103
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                    Eventually we will grow out of labels like gay, straight, bi, or whatever, and just accept that people can respond physically or emotionally to other people as individuals, not as members of a group.

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                      john4554
                      last edited by

                      yes  😉

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                        AnythingOld
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                        @leiraymond:

                        or it is just used to conseal the fact of being a gay or les?

                        There's no reason for me to NOT believe that it exist. On the other hand, because of social constructs, one can make a legitimate argument it does not exist. However, now you'd be delving into moral judgements that may or may not be warranted.


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                          eobox91103
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                          Another way to ask the question is, "Are there people who are sexually attracted to both men and women?"  The answer to that is demonstrably yes–it's simply a fact of human nature.  It's a separate question whether to label this as bisexual, pansexual, ominisexual.  As Anything notes, this second question has to do with social systems, not people.  I tend to dislike labels.

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                            AnythingOld
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                            @eobox91103:

                            Another way to ask the question is, "Are there people who are sexually attracted to both men and women?"  The answer to that is demonstrably yes–it's simply a fact of human nature.  It's a separate question whether to label this as bisexual, pansexual, ominisexual.  As Anything notes, this second question has to do with social systems, not people.  I tend to dislike labels.

                            I'd have to think about your new question, because it sort of indirectly open the doors to that whole "fluidity" concept. I emphatically reject the notion that everyone is sexually fluid. I can remember being attracted to dick before I even understood what it was. I had absolutely no desire to try out pussy!! Fucking yuk. Now as an adult, the whole subject of transgender scares me. It scares me in a way that I wonder if it is what straights feel when they discover a co-worker is gay.

                            -AOS


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