I need seedbonus points to fix my ratio and continue posting videos
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We do try to help members in bad situations like you talked about.
As well as staff help behind the scenes, I always recommend Freeleech to these people.
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The people that everyone complains about the ones like the guy who caused this thread. He's being dishonest in his reason for begging. Sure, he needs the bonus points due to his ratio, but he''s blaming the staff claiming we won't let him upload anymore.
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Nembari (scroll up a few) is correct, and this is why I was hoping to get this stopped quickly, because others might decide to copy him.
I like the idea of recommending Freeleech to them. If there is any way to ask them why they can't upload, it might go a distance to fixing this. I tried asking one [the one I posted the first examples of] but they just accused me of drama.
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However, if a few other members with fast service, or seedboxes, jump in early after the Upload is complete, the original guy will receive very little additional ratio. The torrent system is designed to draw bits and bytes from the most available and nimble sources. That must be frustrating.
There is no "if". Every torrent I've uploaded, there's this one client that always immediately leeches the entire file and seeds it at high speed. Same IP. Same torrent program. They begin leeching it within seconds of the torrent file going live on the tracker - I think it is some sort of bot or script designed to get a lot of seedbonus for the person running it by leeching and seeding pretty much everything!
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However, if a few other members with fast service, or seedboxes, jump in early after the Upload is complete, the original guy will receive very little additional ratio. The torrent system is designed to draw bits and bytes from the most available and nimble sources. That must be frustrating.
There is no "if". Every torrent I've uploaded, there's this one client that always immediately leeches the entire file and seeds it at high speed. Same IP. Same torrent program. They begin leeching it within seconds of the torrent file going live on the tracker - I think it is some sort of bot or script designed to get a lot of seedbonus for the person running it by leeching and seeding pretty much everything!
Are you referring to 'brand new content released to the world/internet' or 'content that has been uploaded, taken down/removed, uploaded again a few days/weeks/months/years later'? Because the latter is quite easily possible for almost any of us who have been a member on here for some time.
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There is no "if". Every torrent I've uploaded, there's this one client that always immediately leeches the entire file and seeds it at high speed. Same IP. Same torrent program. They begin leeching it within seconds of the torrent file going live on the tracker - I think it is some sort of bot or script designed to get a lot of seedbonus for the person running it by leeching and seeding pretty much everything!
Are you referring to 'brand new content released to the world/internet' or 'content that has been uploaded, taken down/removed, uploaded again a few days/weeks/months/years later'? Because the latter is quite easily possible for almost any of us who have been a member on here for some time.
Newly created torrents, usually brand new content. Not reuploaded.
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I welcome input if I'm wrong, but in defense of some (clearly, not all) of the struggling Uploaders, it's quite possible they live in a country where Internet provider speeds are slow, or somewhere that charges a lot of money for what we, in more developed markets, consider standard service.
Thanks for mentioning this. I live in Sri Lanka, and despite having the best high-speed service available here, the entire system often slows down dramatically or stops completely for periods of time ranging from minutes to hours every day. There's nothing to be done about it, but it does affect my ability to both upload and download in a timely way. Part of the price you pay for living in paradise.
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I think what bothers me more then someone asking for seed points is the people who fill up the boards with a ton of posts just to get their ratio up. Logged on this morning and between last night and today they have posted 80 responses. Screws up the board.
Possibly put a limit on how many posts one can get credit for in a 24 hour period?
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I welcome input if I'm wrong, but in defense of some (clearly, not all) of the struggling Uploaders, it's quite possible they live in a country where Internet provider speeds are slow, or somewhere that charges a lot of money for what we, in more developed markets, consider standard service.
Thanks for mentioning this. I live in Sri Lanka, and despite having the best high-speed service available here, the entire system often slows down dramatically or stops completely for periods of time ranging from minutes to hours every day. There's nothing to be done about it, but it does affect my ability to both upload and download in a timely way. Part of the price you pay for living in paradise.
Is it paradise if you don't have good internet speeds?? :cheesy2: LOL
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Hold on.
With all due respect to the OP, I think this is as much a case of overzealous peer moderation as much as it is a request for help. I'd like to point out the following in defense of the user wanting more seedbonus:
1. He uploaded torrents to seed them, and requested seedbonus points as a donation. I've seen multiple new users who do that, and I don't know why this user should be singled out versus all of the others. If it's a flat rule, then apply it equally. Otherwise, I don't see anything technically wrong with a new user requesting seedbonus points for his contributions.
2. He uploaded multiple torrents to seed. If he uploaded even just 5 torrents (linked to in this topic), my guess is that probably puts him in the upper half of all members contributing new content to the GTRU community. That makes him a fairly valuable new member, to be honest.
3. He didn't post his request in the torrent description. He posted factual, descriptive text that's informative and on point. His request for extra seedbonus was down in the comments.
4. Frankly, this is a pointed criticism to the OP zbret: instead of being annoyed at a new member, why wouldn't you channel your annoyance at something constructive and reach out to the member. You've clearly been a successful member of GTRU for many years, and your experience would be beneficial to help new members. This topic could have been: "How do we help this new user acclimate to the community and be successful."This is a new member who has actually gone above and beyond to contribute new content and done it in a fair way, yet we're standing around criticizing him. That's a poor reflection of the community.
I run my own community, and there is a HUGE difference from my perspective as a community manager between a member who attempts to contribute first and then asks for help versus a member who just begs for content without doing anything. This is probably one of the most valuable new members you can onboard to GTRU: He's posted multiple new files. He's posted informative text. He's uploaded proper screenshots of both large photos and thumbnails. If anything, he has the potential to become a superuser and a major contributor to the community for years to come.
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Hold on.
With all due respect to the OP, I think this is as much a case of overzealous peer moderation as much as it is a request for help. I'd like to point out the following in defense of the user wanting more seedbonus:
1. He uploaded torrents to seed them, and requested seedbonus points as a donation. I've seen multiple new users who do that, and I don't know why this user should be singled out versus all of the others. If it's a flat rule, then apply it equally. Otherwise, I don't see anything technically wrong with a new user requesting seedbonus points for his contributions.
2. He uploaded multiple torrents to seed. If he uploaded even just 5 torrents (linked to in this topic), my guess is that probably puts him in the upper half of all members contributing new content to the GTRU community. That makes him a fairly valuable new member, to be honest.
3. He didn't post his request in the torrent description. He posted factual, descriptive text that's informative and on point. His request for extra seedbonus was down in the comments.
4. Frankly, this is a pointed criticism to the OP zbret: instead of being annoyed at a new member, why wouldn't you channel your annoyance at something constructive and reach out to the member. You've clearly been a successful member of GTRU for many years, and your experience would be beneficial to help new members. This topic could have been: "How do we help this new user acclimate to the community and be successful."This is a new member who has actually gone above and beyond to contribute new content and done it in a fair way, yet we're standing around criticizing him. That's a poor reflection of the community.
I run my own community, and there is a HUGE difference from my perspective as a community manager between a member who attempts to contribute first and then asks for help versus a member who just begs for content without doing anything. This is probably one of the most valuable new members you can onboard to GTRU: He's posted multiple new files. He's posted informative text. He's uploaded proper screenshots of both large photos and thumbnails. If anything, he has the potential to become a superuser and a major contributor to the community for years to come.
Considering that Uploader Identities are anonymous, how would you know the # of files the Uploaded has uploaded? Hmmm? I put on the breaks reading your argument the moment I read that. I do give you credence for taking your position, and your passion and manner in which you articulated your position. But back to basics, how do you know all of this when the Uploader of any torrent is anonymous to all except staff and moderators?
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Considering that Uploader Identities are anonymous, how would you know the # of files the Uploaded has uploaded? Hmmm?
While the files themselves are anonymous the comment sections are not. Since the same comment showed up in over seven files it's logical to assume that since the same person was asking for seed points on those files that was the person who had uploaded the files.
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One of the moderators, who does have access to this information, identified six files coming from the same person. -
"I need seedbonus points to fix my ratio and continue posting videos"
From what I can tell, the above text does not actually violate rules, but I find it irritating and wanted to ask about it.
It seems to imply that if this uploader does not get the seedbonus they require, GT will prevent them from uploading.
However, I've read the rules in detail and there is nothing I can see (or any logical reason why) that GT would prevent uploading for reasons of low seedbonus or ratio. Downloading yes, not uploading.
It seems rather dishonest, and normally I'd ignore it - and I have, for months. I see it time and time again though.
As for begging for seedbonus, the rules state not to do it in the DESCRIPTION, but nothing about in the comments of the video which is where I keep seeing this.
So, there you have it. Thoughts?
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I don't know, I think this is one of those things, people will interpret the same sentence differently. This also may depend how long you've used private trackers. I don't interpret the subject line to be confusing at all. You have to understand, unfortunately (and I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say this), the vast majority of torrent users in the torrent world, refuse to read and follow instructions. These people try and defy tracker rules on a daily basis. They sign up knowing that rules exist, yet they feel they're above them. Then try to talk bad about a tracker when they're not allowed to get away with it.
A tracker will NEVER hinder you from uploading (if you're already an approved uploader), unless you have violated a huge rule, like not following a trackers particular uploading guidelines. You have to understand that, many people ignore what torrents were created for, and try to pull on peoples heart strings, and get charity from it. That's the kind of person who would write this.
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This is a new member who has actually gone above and beyond to contribute new content and done it in a fair way, yet we're standing around criticizing him. That's a poor reflection of the community.
The statement "I need seedbonus points to fix my ratio and continue posting videos" is deliberately deceptive. Ratio has no effect on ability to post videos. Posting videos is by far the most efficient way to improve the ratio, much more efficient than begging for a few points here and there, so it's not even particularly helpful in that situation.
I said "deliberately deceptive" because when it was politely pointed out to him that it was not true, his only response was, "why so much drama ??" I interpret that to mean, "Yes, I know and I am doing it on purpose, go away and leave me alone." It doesn't seem like a case of attacking an innocent newcomer. He knows exactly what he's doing.
It's also wrong to make others think that if their ratio is bad, they can't post videos.
I see it as equivalent to a scamming beggar asking for change (seedbonus points) to buy food for other people (posting videos) when they really plan to use it to buy drugs for personal use (download videos). It's even worse because in this case, the change being solicited can't be used to buy food at all, only drugs, because food is free.
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Hold on.
With all due respect to the OP, I think this is as much a case of overzealous peer moderation as much as it is a request for help. I'd like to point out the following in defense of the user wanting more seedbonus:
1. He uploaded torrents to seed them, and requested seedbonus points as a donation. I've seen multiple new users who do that, and I don't know why this user should be singled out versus all of the others. If it's a flat rule, then apply it equally. Otherwise, I don't see anything technically wrong with a new user requesting seedbonus points for his contributions.
2. He uploaded multiple torrents to seed. If he uploaded even just 5 torrents (linked to in this topic), my guess is that probably puts him in the upper half of all members contributing new content to the GTRU community. That makes him a fairly valuable new member, to be honest.
3. He didn't post his request in the torrent description. He posted factual, descriptive text that's informative and on point. His request for extra seedbonus was down in the comments.
4. Frankly, this is a pointed criticism to the OP zbret: instead of being annoyed at a new member, why wouldn't you channel your annoyance at something constructive and reach out to the member. You've clearly been a successful member of GTRU for many years, and your experience would be beneficial to help new members. This topic could have been: "How do we help this new user acclimate to the community and be successful."This is a new member who has actually gone above and beyond to contribute new content and done it in a fair way, yet we're standing around criticizing him. That's a poor reflection of the community.
I run my own community, and there is a HUGE difference from my perspective as a community manager between a member who attempts to contribute first and then asks for help versus a member who just begs for content without doing anything. This is probably one of the most valuable new members you can onboard to GTRU: He's posted multiple new files. He's posted informative text. He's uploaded proper screenshots of both large photos and thumbnails. If anything, he has the potential to become a superuser and a major contributor to the community for years to come.
Considering that Uploader Identities are anonymous, how would you know the # of files the Uploaded has uploaded? Hmmm? I put on the breaks reading your argument the moment I read that. I do give you credence for taking your position, and your passion and manner in which you articulated your position. But back to basics, how do you know all of this when the Uploader of any torrent is anonymous to all except staff and moderators?
Hi. Does one torrent lessen the argument any more than five torrents?
The point still stands: this is a new user who actively contributed something first and did everything 'correct' in terms of posting a descriptive and valuable torrent.
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This is a new member who has actually gone above and beyond to contribute new content and done it in a fair way, yet we're standing around criticizing him. That's a poor reflection of the community.
The statement "I need seedbonus points to fix my ratio and continue posting videos" is deliberately deceptive. Ratio has no effect on ability to post videos. Posting videos is by far the most efficient way to improve the ratio, much more efficient than begging for a few points here and there, so it's not even particularly helpful in that situation.
I said "deliberately deceptive" because when it was politely pointed out to him that it was not true, his only response was, "why so much drama ??" I interpret that to mean, "Yes, I know and I am doing it on purpose, go away and leave me alone." It doesn't seem like a case of attacking an innocent newcomer. He knows exactly what he's doing.
It's also wrong to make others think that if their ratio is bad, they can't post videos.
I see it as equivalent to a scamming beggar asking for change (seedbonus points) to buy food for other people (posting videos) when they really plan to use it to buy drugs for personal use (download videos). It's even worse because in this case, the change being solicited can't be used to buy food at all, only drugs, because food is free.
Bottom line, if users would actually bother to read the site rules/instructions, we wouldn't have these "misinterpretations." Everyone would be on the same page. AND if the rules are deceiving, than the owner has an obligation to it's members to make it clearer. Don't just explain it to one user, make the effort to update the site's documentation.
-AOS
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I welcome input if I'm wrong, but in defense of some (clearly, not all) of the struggling Uploaders, it's quite possible they live in a country where Internet provider speeds are slow, or somewhere that charges a lot of money for what we, in more developed markets, consider standard service.
Thanks for mentioning this. I live in Sri Lanka, and despite having the best high-speed service available here, the entire system often slows down dramatically or stops completely for periods of time ranging from minutes to hours every day. There's nothing to be done about it, but it does affect my ability to both upload and download in a timely way. Part of the price you pay for living in paradise.
Is it paradise if you don't have good internet speeds?? :cheesy2: LOL
Paradise is subjective, but if you live in a non-conflict area of the country (is there one?), and have access to nice beaches and meeting Sri Lankan guys, you're approaching my paradise paradigm.
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The point still stands: this is a new user who actively contributed something first and did everything 'correct' in terms of posting a descriptive and valuable torrent.
Doing something good isn't a license for doing bad things.
Bottom line, if users would actually bother to read the site rules/instructions, we wouldn't have these "misinterpretations." Everyone would be on the same page.
That is true but it never has happened and will never happen, here or anywhere else. Even if everyone carefully read and understood and remembered all of the rules that apply to them, some people will choose not to follow them.
Besides, what he is doing is not against the site rules even if it is against their spirit and intention as he is begging for points in the comments, not in the video description.
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The point still stands: this is a new user who actively contributed something first and did everything 'correct' in terms of posting a descriptive and valuable torrent.
Doing something good isn't a license for doing bad things.
Bottom line, if users would actually bother to read the site rules/instructions, we wouldn't have these "misinterpretations." Everyone would be on the same page.
That is true but it never has happened and will never happen, here or anywhere else. Even if everyone carefully read and understood and remembered all of the rules that apply to them, some people will choose not to follow them.
Besides, what he is doing is not against the site rules even if it is against their spirit and intention as he is begging for points in the comments, not in the video description.
Hi, some thoughts:
1. In my opinion, out of all the possible things that could go wrong on the site, this hardly ranks in the worst.
Here are some things, at least to me, that are far more problematic:
- Uploaders who incorrectly miscategorize the categories
- Uploaders who post wrong or inaccurage thumbnails
- Uploaders who don't put complete descriptions or don't correctly identify all of the files
- Uploaders who pad their files
- Freeleech that's a string of non-mainstream porn like Chubolds
- Members who intentionally put down or attack other members
All of those are far more problematic to me as a GTRU user than some new guy asking for seedbonus. Like, who cares if he begs for seedbonus?
2. Doing something good isn't a license for doing something bad – As I explained above, what the user is doing - out of the grand totality of the worst things possible on GTRU - hardly ranks as problematic. And as I've explained before, this is a user who uploaded FIRST and then asked for seedbonus. That's a far more valuable member than a member who doesn't do anything, but still begs / asks for free stuff (eg. all of those members who want OnlyFans), wouldn't you agree?
A homeless guy who gets a minimum wage job and still asks for money is much more valuable to society than a homeless guy who just begs for money.
3. New members should be allowed more leeway. They're literally new and inexperienced to the site. The question shouldn't be "how do we ban / criticize every new member who doesn't know the rules?". Instead, the question should be, "how do we present a smoother onboarding that clarifies and affirms our community guidelines". For example ...
- Are brand new users presented with announcement bar for the first 90 days that links them to various Rules and Guidelines?
- Do brand new users receive a welcome email message that links to various Rules and Guidelines?
- How does GTRU reconcile the Rules section and all of the pinned posts tucked away in the forums, which no new user is ever going to realistically browse?
- When was the last time staff reviewed the Rules? It's a block of text that begins with Terms of Service, which is hardly what new users need to read about. They need easy, bullet point references on the MOST important items to begin using the site, and then links to details if necessary. - What is the member journey and what information do you present at each new step?
These are the kinds of substantive community management discussions that will drive the community forward and offer a smoother onboarding experience to encourage more valuable, contributory users.
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3. New members should be allowed more leeway. They're literally new and inexperienced to the site. The question shouldn't be "how do we ban / criticize every new member who doesn't know the rules?". Instead, the question should be, "how do we present a smoother onboarding that clarifies and affirms our community guidelines". For example …
Agreed, but in this case the member is deliberately lying and circumventing the rule against begging by posting the request in the comments and blowing off someone who pointed out that he's spreading misinformation. It does not seem that his intentions are good or that he is an innocent new member trying to do the right thing. The mods here do a great job of determining intent and not coming down harshly on people when it's unwarranted.
As an example, I got snagged one time for uploading a duplicate of a dead torrent. I wasn't even a new member and I knew that there was a rule against duplicate torrents but because it was dead, I thought it would be okay to make the copy I finally found elsewhere available here. I was trying to do the right thing, I was trying to be helpful, my intentions were good. I was warned about it in a nice way and was told what to do next time there is a similar situation. Overall, it was a positive interaction.
On the other hand, you have people deliberately slightly altering a video by changing the name and then uploading it as a different torrent with a slightly different file size to circumvent the rules. That rule had to be clarified to prevent it from happening.
Maybe begging for seed points on torrent pages should be outlawed completely, in the description OR in the comments. Surely that was the intent when it was outlawed in the description but inevitably, someone found a loophole by posting it in the comments.
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"- Uploaders who incorrectly miscategorize the categories"
This one is getting a little annoying. Over 10 new torrests in the Straight older category uploaded today looks nothing like older.
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