Judge: Georgia must scrap old voting machines after 2019
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See, you are doing it. You get butt hurt because I don't agree with you so you claim I'm a racist. You proved my comments in the other thread 100% correct. If a honkey dares disagree with a non-white, they are racist, no matter what the disagreement is about.
Also, my sister would laugh in your face if you tried to tell her I'm a racist. The same with her husband and my niece.
Black supremacists, along with supremacists from all other racists exist.
Fake hate crimes are on the rise.
You called me a Democratic Communist, which is a term Reagan used a lot and Reagan is a proven white supremacist bigot who called black people "monkeys." Why are you using the white supremacist language of Ronald Reagan all of a sudden?
FYI, you can be prejudiced or a racist with a black spouse, biracial grandchildren, biracial nieces and nephews, etc.; having people of color in your family means nothing if you see people of color who aren't a part of your family as inferior and/or undeserving of natural rights.
Yeah, black supremacists exist but they don't have the bloody murderous reputation as white supremacists in America. History tells us that. Show me pictures of black people lynching white people and I'll agree with you. Show me pictures of black people enslaving white people for more than two centuries and I'll agree with you. Show me evidence of black people putting the fear of death in white people to keep them from voting for decade after decade and I'll agree with you. Show me evidence that laws had to be passed to keep black supremacists from terrorizing white people to keep white people from demanding civil rights and I'll agree with you. The Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act had to be passed because of white supremacist conservatives and their disgusting bloody acts of terrorism inflicted on black people. There are people still alive–-like Rep. John Lewis---who know all too well about this topic. Try telling him and other civil rights leaders that black supremacy is the exact same threat as white supremacy in America. White supremacy, conservatism, and our own federal government killed Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Umm, "communist" wasn't and isn't only said by Reagan. I'm sure I could find a word or 50 you have said in common with a number of child rapists.
I agree, a person can have family that's mixed race and be prejudice. However, when my mixed-race sister and her black inlaws don't think I'm a racist, you lost the point, unless you are saying they are white supremacists too.
You love to wallow in the past that, don't you.
Let's not forget the history of the word "slave". It's from the Slavonic people (now Slavic) who were enslaved en masse by the Moors and the Ottomans. These people were sold throughout Africa and the Middle East. Also, slavery existed long before whites got to Africa and it's still going on.
Do you mean how Obama/Holder dropped the charges of the New Black Panthers in Philly? You know the ones, brandishing nightsticks and spewing hate toward whites outside the polling place.
What about the multiple scandals involving the black woman Broward County elections official. Ballots being transferred between that black pickup and the official truck. Ballots found in the trunk of a rental car at the airport. Taking ballots into a private room. Threatening monitors with arrest.
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Umm, "communist" wasn't and isn't only said by Reagan. I'm sure I could find a word or 50 you have said in common with a number of child rapists.
I agree, a person can have family that's mixed race and be prejudice. However, when my mixed-race sister and her black inlaws don't think I'm a racist, you lost the point, unless you are saying they are white supremacists too.
You love to wallow in the past that, don't you.
Let's not forget the history of the word "slave". It's from the Slavonic people (now Slavic) who were enslaved en masse by the Moors and the Ottomans. These people were sold throughout Africa and the Middle East. Also, slavery existed long before whites got to Africa and it's still going on.
Do you mean how Obama/Holder dropped the charges of the New Black Panthers in Philly? You know the ones, brandishing nightsticks and spewing hate toward whites outside the polling place.
What about the multiple scandals involving the black woman Broward County elections official. Ballots being transferred between that black pickup and the official truck. Ballots found in the trunk of a rental car at the airport. Taking ballots into a private room. Threatening monitors with arrest.
It is a known fact that Reagan and his supporters, as well as those who followed Joseph McCarthy, called anyone on the left calling for equality Communist. To this very day, white supremacists who want to stop a debate with someone on the left will throw out the term Communist. It's a very recognizable dog whistle and was used by Ronald Reagan many times, who as I said, is a proven white supremacist who considered black people to be "monkeys."
I talk about the past so much because it is my people's history we're talking about here. Slavery stripped away my ancestors' original heritage and permanently severed the connection between Africa and African descendants of slaves like myself. By demanding that I or people like me forget that, you're telling us to abandon our history and our heritage. Without taking a DNA assessment for genealogy, I cannot claim I'm a direct descendant of any African cultures. My people's history is well-documented in this country and it's a history of blood and triumph. Thankfully, white supremacists have failed to erase us and our experiences. We're still here and we will continue to be here, no matter what any white supremacist says or does.
I highly doubt you talk to black people in your family on a daily basis; and if so, I highly doubt you tell them they're in the position they're in because of AA or any of the other nonsense you spout on here. If you do and they still like you, they're probably the type of black people who constantly bring up stereotypes about other black people because deep down inside, they hate being black themselves. No proud black person who has respect for the ideals Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. died for would entertain anti-black attitudes from anyone. Hmm, didn't Reagan and white conservatives like Jesse Helms (another Southern Democrat who became a Republican) oppose recognizing Dr. King for his contributions to this country? He even questioned whether it would be revealed if Dr. King was a Communist in 35 years, once again throwing out the dog whistle even as he was about to sign the proclamation for the Dr. King holiday.
I'll let words I've already said be my final words for this diversion you've taken this thread to:
Yeah, black supremacists exist but they don't have the bloody murderous reputation as white supremacists in America. History tells us that. Show me pictures of black people lynching white people and I'll agree with you. Show me pictures of black people enslaving white people for more than two centuries and I'll agree with you. Show me evidence of black people putting the fear of death in white people to keep them from voting for decade after decade and I'll agree with you. Show me evidence that laws had to be passed to keep black supremacists from terrorizing white people to keep white people from demanding civil rights and I'll agree with you. The Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act had to be passed because of white supremacist conservatives and their disgusting bloody acts of terrorism inflicted on black people. There are people still alive–-like Rep. John Lewis---who know all too well about this topic. Try telling him and other civil rights leaders that black supremacy is the exact same threat as white supremacy in America. White supremacy, conservatism, and our own federal government killed Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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it is my people's history we're talking about here
I am not an american so maybe I do not know for sure.
But am I wrong about this:Given this:
1. original slaves were enslaved by their own people;
2. they were sold by their own people;
3. they were moved from the failed continent to the future capitalist heaven where things like law and elections exist;
4. at other places slaves were not allowed to reproduce;What you end up thinking:
1. white people bad; -
Ah, so you admit that the left hates blacks since they tend to love communism. I guess that means you are admitting that you are self-loathing by supporting those who hate you.
You talk about the past as if it's the reason for everything. I wasn't in the past and I didn't own slaved, nor have I lynched any blacks. You haven't been a slave, nor were you lynched.
If you want to talk about slavery, then lets have it. You ignore all the other issues surrounding it to blame whites. Anthony Johnson was a black man and former indentured servant. He had indentured servants but refused to let them go once their term was up. He fought it to the high court at the time and won. He is why the US had chattel slavery. A black man was the reason for it. Africans took slaves and sold them to other tribes before whites got there. Africans sold slaves to whites.
I talk to my sister and her family at least once a week via skype. Of course, I don't constantly bring up AA. That's not what families talk about. Also, they work for what they have. My niece didn't become the state under 10s (both genders) judo champ due to AA. They agree with me that AA should only apply to those that are disadvantaged, including poor white males. They don't whine about being victims at every turn. They believe in personal responsibility.
You created the diversion by calling me a racist because I called you a communist.
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–- Before I get into this topic, I just have to say I am sad to see how low participation in this forum has become. I had a feeling this would happen due to how one-sided this section of the forum was becoming and how the constant trolling/derailing was making this an uncivil place to debate (example of my prediction: https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=50735.0). That being said, I'm happy to see the Politics & Debate section is still here and it was a joy revisiting some of my old threads and topics I participated in. –-
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Anyway, back to Georgia's voting system and the reform efforts, I hope the reforms are in place before the special election to fill Johnny Isakson's senate seat. Along with Georgia's other senate seat, it's going to be one of the most-watched races now as Democrats try to take back the Senate in the 2020 election. Given how close the 2018 race was, I'm sure there are a lot of angry people who are still highly upset with now-Governor Brian Kemp's suppression efforts. This is going to get very interesting, especially since Georgia came within 8 points of flipping in the 2016 election.
Good riddance, Senator Isakson. And game on, Senator Perdue.
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You derailed to have a hissy fit over me calling you a communist, own it.
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Legal citizens with photo ID should be able to vote without Republicans coming up with ways to stop them at every turn. Hopefully, the upcoming reforms in Georgia will highlight the problem nationwide and provide a roadmap on how to correct the problem.
:thankyou:
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I saw a video on the Georgia law.
Whites were expelled from the voter rolls more than all other races combined. So that throws out your "white supremacy" crap.
Also, to claim that white Dems in the 1990s were all KKK members is beyond lunacy.
Dems controlled all branches of the state government and they passed the law.
Kemp, while Sec of State, suspended the removals, but not the notifications during the lawsuit in 2015. He resumed OBEYING the law in 2017.
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It's like the black woman in Texas screaming "racism" because she's committed voter fraud because she voted while still on parole, which is illegal in the state. She didn't read the form she was signing, so she blamed racism.
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I never said all Southern Democrats were KKK members or even racists; rather, I said a number of them were conservative and became Republicans, including future-Governor Sonny Perdue. It is a well-documented fact that many Southern Democrats who favored segregation and hated Civil Rights became Republicans between the late-1960s to the early-2000s. Most if not all of the segregationist Democrats and Dixiecrats like Strom Thurmond became Republicans by the 2000s.
Brian Kemp nearly lost and would have lost had thousands of voters not been unfairly purged and had he not directed police to harass black voters who were trying get to the polls during the early voting period across the state. For that reason, he'll continue to be an unpopular governor and will most likely lose reelection now that he can no longer use his suppressive tactics.
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And yet, idiots like you still voted for them.
Kemp obeyed the law, and won the lawsuit in 2015 over the law, that Dems passed in 1995.
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And yet, idiots like you still voted for them.
Kemp obeyed the law, and won the lawsuit in 2015 over the law, that Dems passed in 1995.
No one I know voted for Sonny Perdue when he was a conservative Democrat and one of the state legislators who passed that law in 1995. Conservative Democrats made up the majority of the Democratic Party prior to the early-2000s; therefore, your argument is invalid. While the entire legislature passed the law, it was conservative Democrats who later became Republicans who most likely wrote the law. Is Jimmy Carter on record supporting it? How about Kasim Reed? Or was it just conservative Democrats like Sonny Perdue who later became Republicans? You brought up the fact that Democrats passed the law. Can you show me proof that says current Democrats like Stacey Abrams, Kasim Reed, Michelle Nunn, Sally Yates, Hank Johnson, John Lewis, or any other Georgia Democrat either voted for the law passed in 1995 or advocated for its passage? If you cannot show me the proof, then your whole argument is invalid. You're linking the current Republican Secretary of Agriculture under Trump with liberal Democrats and that sir makes you the idiot.
Also, you're calling hundreds of thousands if not millions of past and present conservative Georgia voters idiots because the Democratic Party controlled the Georgia state legislature prior to conservative Democrats becoming Republicans between the 1960s and 2000s. You can pretend like it didn't happen but that would easily classify as irrational behavior since it's a well-documented fact that many conservative Democrats became Republicans.
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You are still in denial that it was, in fact, the Democrats that controlled the entire state government in 1995, not the Repubs.
You are still in denial that Kemp stopped removing people from the voter rolls during the lawsuit, which he ended up winning. According to all sources I can find, whites have been hit harder than black by the law. Also, it takes years to be removed for being a non-voter and there are a number of ways to stay on the voter rolls, even if you don't want to vote. When you renew your state ID or driver's license, you can tick the box. You can return the postage-free postcard they send every year.
Abrams is an "I'm a victim, honkeys are the devil" Democrat. She hasn't met a whine she doesn't like.
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i cant get over thinking that blaming voting machines and gerrymandering is just smoke screen for dealing with the real underlying issue: the electoral college. if america want to improve democracy they should just get rid of the electoral college and move on to popular vote like most other western countries. with a popular vote the effects of manipulated voting machines would be more visible and gerrymandering would be a non-issue. no more silly "swing states".
as i understand the electoral college was implemented in the 18th century because of slavery in the south of america…... a little obsolete in the 21st century no?
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It's in the Constitution, so it's not likely to change.
Getting rid of it only benefits the major cities and California.
I do love how a person from a country with very little diversity thinks the same system his country uses will work everywhere.
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how is big cities treated favorably with popular voting? as i see it popular voting is about recognizing the will of the majority, kinda like how democracy is supposed to work?
It's in the Constitution, so it's not likely to change.
Getting rid of it only benefits the major cities and California.
I do love how a person from a country with very little diversity thinks the same system his country uses will work everywhere.
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Being from a tiny country, I can see why you don't understand the issues that only supporting major cities and California would cause the US.
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so are the lives of the people in major cities and california worth less than other peoples lives? dont see why some peoples political opinion should be worth more than others…
Being from a tiny country, I can see why you don't understand the issues that only supporting major cities and California would cause the US.
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