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    Is Being Gay a Choice?

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      vaylon 0
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      Homosexuality has been documented in practically ever species of animal on the planet. From fishes to humans and everything in between.
      Not just homosexual behavior's like two male dogs fucking. Thats just natural for all animals but when a male dog has no desire to fuck a female dog thats in heat and wants to fuck a male dog that gets excited. Thats pure 100% homosexuality.
      It appears more in larger animal populations than it does in smaller and shrinking populations of animals. The larger the population of animals gets, the higher the percentage of that population is born gay. Researchers have called it mother natures own form of birth control.
      Is there a gay gene? Not too sure on that, researchers havent been able to find one, but they have found a series of genes that can be manipulted to creat a gay offspring. For years breders kept manipulating the DNA of different cattle breeds to make super animals. selling the modified dna sperm to ranchs and breeders all over the world. But there was just one very big problem for the labs. A extrodinarly large number of the animals born from the manipulated DNA were homosexual. Not good since you just paid 100,000 dollars for a vial of sperm and wanted to breed a super bull to make your heard shine and all he wants to do is dominate and fuck all the other bulls in the herd.
      As the research went on, they found that even just a simple change , such as changing an animals eye color could produce the gay effect. It was backed up by manipulation experiments on all kinds of species from dragonflies to apes.

      So, is it a choice?
      It can be in some people. But in most, science is pointing to NO . Its not a choice.

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        bob85
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        The ACT of being gay (or straight) is a choice. I can choose to be intimate with a women, but that doesn't truly make me straight. Likewise, a straight guy could choose to have sex with another guy, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's gay.

        A lot of people think it's a choice because they are equating "being gay" to having sex and/or seeking romantic relationships with someone else of the same sex. In most cases, actions ARE choices… so people who think one-dimensional and only believe being gay is strictly an act (having sex) will certainly think that it's a choice to be gay. That's where the confusion comes in to play.

        However, the mere presence of having same-sex or opposite-sex sexual attraction is NOT a choice. I am strongly attracted to the male physique and get aroused by their bodies, but I didn't choose that. Straight men are attracted to women's bodies (boobs, vaginas, their curves, etc.), and they certainly didn't "choose" that attraction. Neither of those are choices.

        So, depending on how you define being gay or straight, it could be choice and it could not be a choice.

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          vaylon 0
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          @bob85:

          The ACT of being gay (or straight) is a choice. I can choose to be intimate with a women, but that doesn't truly make me straight. Likewise, a straight guy could choose to have sex with another guy, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's gay.

          A lot of people think it's a choice because they are equating "being gay" to having sex and/or seeking romantic relationships with someone else of the same sex. In most cases, actions ARE choices… so people who think one-dimensional and only believe being gay is strictly an act (having sex) will certainly think that it's a choice to be gay. That's where the confusion comes in to play.

          However, the mere presence of having same-sex or opposite-sex sexual attraction is NOT a choice. I am strongly attracted to the male physique and get aroused by their bodies, but I didn't choose that. Straight men are attracted to women's bodies (boobs, vaginas, their curves, etc.), and they certainly didn't "choose" that attraction. Neither of those are choices.

          So, depending on how you define being gay or straight, it could be choice and it could not be a choice.

          An excellent summarization.

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            limapigeons
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            I'd argue no.. but I don't have any proof on me. It's an interesting oen though.

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              nickys1177
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              classic nature vs nurture..but me thinks its not a choice..

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                Shami94
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                I have uploaded a book:

                Gay, Straight, and the Reason Why - The Science of Sexual Orientation

                https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=b2fb21a444e00708b9f5b89e8d356c2c5d7bc9b0717cea48

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                  r0lf
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                  People should be able to choose to be gay as well because sex is healthy and normal!

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                    Shami94
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                    @r0lf:

                    People should be able to choose to be gay as well because sex is healthy and normal!

                    Definitely straight guys should feel OK about choosing to have sex with other men and maybe even having more sex with other men than they do with women, but that is not the same thing as "choosing to be gay".

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                      Zeitgeist
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                      No, I do not think it's a choice or a "lifestyle".

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                        Lynxlux92
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                        lmao noooo. I gotta say i was born gay af.

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                          tyeers
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                          Well…. I guess lots of the men in gay porn are sorta gay by choice. Depending on what you mean by choice. I mean im sure lots of them feel exclusively attracted to women, and would chose to only have sex with women if it weren't for the money/fame.

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                            Sexual orientation is never a choice.

                            Acting upon it is a choice.

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                              Asimpledude
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                              I do think sexuallity can shift (or perhaps its just you learning more about it or being more open to what you want its still the same effect) but I myself certainly didnt get a choice not to say I would choose otherwise now but my middle school self Definetly wouldve

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                                calvingrey
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                                being Gay depends on many things. A person's manhood, mentality, people he's influenced with and sometimes the extent of pleasure, the media and so on.

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                                  ursus01
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                                  No, it isn't a choice.

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                                    NickJakobs
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                                    It is not a choice - i didnt wake up one morning and said, " hmm life isnt complicated enough as it is for me. Im going to be gay from now on "

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                                      MulderYuffie
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                                      No not a choice not at all. I was roughly 5 when I realized I was gay and not even on the sexual level of things not that young so nobody is going to tell me that was a choice it was just natural to me.

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                                        Zeitgeist
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                                        Not a choice, lol.

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                                          ethernet5
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                                          @vaylon:

                                          @bob85:

                                          The ACT of being gay (or straight) is a choice. I can choose to be intimate with a women, but that doesn't truly make me straight. Likewise, a straight guy could choose to have sex with another guy, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's gay.

                                          A lot of people think it's a choice because they are equating "being gay" to having sex and/or seeking romantic relationships with someone else of the same sex. In most cases, actions ARE choices… so people who think one-dimensional and only believe being gay is strictly an act (having sex) will certainly think that it's a choice to be gay. That's where the confusion comes in to play.

                                          However, the mere presence of having same-sex or opposite-sex sexual attraction is NOT a choice. I am strongly attracted to the male physique and get aroused by their bodies, but I didn't choose that. Straight men are attracted to women's bodies (boobs, vaginas, their curves, etc.), and they certainly didn't "choose" that attraction. Neither of those are choices.

                                          So, depending on how you define being gay or straight, it could be choice and it could not be a choice.

                                          An excellent summarization.

                                          Very good. Attraction is not a choice but intimacy is.

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                                            geekguy
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                                            Wrapped up in the question "is it a choice?" is always the reply –> Why does the answer matter?

                                            I don't think it is usually a choice, but even it it is, so what? In free countries, people have the right to live their personal lives without intrusion by other people. If two men choose to get married, live their lives and pool their resources for mutual support and benefit, why should it matter if they are driven by rational or emotional 'choice' or innate biological urge? There often seems to be the belief that if it is biologically determined, found in animals, etc. then it is "natural" and therefore "good."  But we humans make all sorts of non-natural choices all the time, making full use of our minds and rights in a free society.

                                            If someone chooses to be gay because they have been fucked over too many times by women, fine, they get just as many rights as I do as a gay-since-birth queer. Asking the question "is it a choice" is playing into the oppressors framing, making us justify our existence and our freedoms, instead of just saying; by birth or by choice, I am who I am and you have no right to tell me not to be this way.

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