What is the argument AGAINST allowing insurance to be sold across state lines?

Frederick

A hospice is a type of medical treatment that helps take care of people who are very sick and have an illness that they will not be able to heal from. Many people staying in hospices have cancer or AIDS. People who stay in hospices are expected to die soon, but sometimes they get better.

.. I would say that very few of them get better.. but quite a few of them do not die soon. It is not usual for someone to live another 15 years after their condition is "terminal'. In fact, some cancer patients decide to forego chemotherapy because the chemotherapy is brutal. In many cases, the cancer doesn't kill the person who doesn't take chemo.. but the chemotherapy kills people who do have chemo.

aadam101

Nobody receives Hospice services for 15 years. Medicare actually caps it at six months (which is a long time for this service) and it's rather difficult to continue with the services via Medicare. Hospice is for end of life care. It's basically when treatment has stopped and you are just trying to make the patient comfortable until they die.

spam17

@Frederick:

@spam17:

A hospice is a type of medical treatment that helps take care of people who are very sick and have an illness that they will not be able to heal from. Many people staying in hospices have cancer or AIDS. People who stay in hospices are expected to die soon, but sometimes they get better.

.. I would say that very few of them get better.. but quite a few of them do not die soon. It is not usual for someone to live another 15 years after their condition is "terminal'. In fact, some cancer patients decide to forego chemotherapy because the chemotherapy is brutal. In many cases, the cancer doesn't kill the person who doesn't take chemo.. but the chemotherapy kills people who do have chemo.

I think it also depends on the age you are diagnosed..

Frederick

@aadam101:

Nobody receives Hospice services for 15 years. Medicare actually caps it at six months (which is a long time for this service) and it's rather difficult to continue with the services via Medicare. Hospice is for end of life care. It's basically when treatment has stopped and you are just trying to make the patient comfortable until they die.

People rarely die when they are expected to. They also don't die when their insurance coverage runs out (although sometimes I wonder…).

Just in my very limited personal experience:
My aunt was diagnosed with terminal breast cancer that had gotten to her lymph nodes. She was told she would be gone within 3 months. She lasted over a year.
My dad's 2nd wife's mother had all sorts of medical problems including severe dementia, heart problems, diabetes, legs swollen up like tree trunks.. could not walk, could not even operate her wheelchair.. and lingered like that for 15 years.
My grandfather had rheumatism as a child which gave him what is called a "rheumatic heart" that is like a time bomb. He was told several times that he needed heart surgery to fix some problem, but he refused. But then, when he was quite frail and weak, he consented to the heart surgery. Unfortunately, by the time he consented to the surgery, they told him he was too frail and weak to survive the surgery and they would not do it. He was in a wheelchair that he could not operate, and in a motorized hospital bed at home, and wearing an oxygen mask for over 2 years before dying.
My sister in law had severe multiple sclerosis, attempted suicide with an intentional fall - leaving her a quadraplegic with broken vertebrae in her neck. That left her head fused at a 30% angle. She couldn't talk, the pupils of her eyes were unresponsive, on a feeding tube, and looked like a corpse for over 15 years before her heart gave out. My idiot brother fought to keep her alive so he could continue to collect her benefits. He kept her in a vegetative state of hell just so he could live off the income of her benefits.

spam17

@Frederick:

@aadam101:

Nobody receives Hospice services for 15 years. Medicare actually caps it at six months (which is a long time for this service) and it's rather difficult to continue with the services via Medicare. Hospice is for end of life care. It's basically when treatment has stopped and you are just trying to make the patient comfortable until they die.

People rarely die when they are expected to. They also don't die when their insurance coverage runs out (although sometimes I wonder…).

Just in my very limited personal experience:
My aunt was diagnosed with terminal breast cancer that had gotten to her lymph nodes. She was told she would be gone within 3 months. She lasted over a year.
My dad's 2nd wife's mother had all sorts of medical problems including severe dementia, heart problems, diabetes, legs swollen up like tree trunks.. could not walk, could not even operate her wheelchair.. and lingered like that for 15 years.
My grandfather had rheumatism as a child which gave him what is called a "rheumatic heart" that is like a time bomb. He was told several times that he needed heart surgery to fix some problem, but he refused. But then, when he was quite frail and weak, he consented to the heart surgery. Unfortunately, by the time he consented to the surgery, they told him he was too frail and weak to survive the surgery and they would not do it. He was in a wheelchair that he could not operate, and in a motorized hospital bed at home, and wearing an oxygen mask for over 2 years before dying.
My sister in law had severe multiple sclerosis, attempted suicide with an intentional fall - leaving her a quadraplegic with broken vertebrae in her neck. That left her head fused at a 30% angle. She couldn't talk, the pupils of her eyes were unresponsive, on a feeding tube, and looked like a corpse for over 15 years before her heart gave out. My idiot brother fought to keep her alive so he could continue to collect her benefits. He kept her in a vegetative state of hell just so he could live off the income of wher benefits.

Your straight brorher?

;D

Frederick

@spam17:

@Frederick:

@aadam101:

Nobody receives Hospice services for 15 years. Medicare actually caps it at six months (which is a long time for this service) and it's rather difficult to continue with the services via Medicare. Hospice is for end of life care. It's basically when treatment has stopped and you are just trying to make the patient comfortable until they die.

People rarely die when they are expected to. They also don't die when their insurance coverage runs out (although sometimes I wonder…).

Just in my very limited personal experience:
My aunt was diagnosed with terminal breast cancer that had gotten to her lymph nodes. She was told she would be gone within 3 months. She lasted over a year.
My dad's 2nd wife's mother had all sorts of medical problems including severe dementia, heart problems, diabetes, legs swollen up like tree trunks.. could not walk, could not even operate her wheelchair.. and lingered like that for 15 years.
My grandfather had rheumatism as a child which gave him what is called a "rheumatic heart" that is like a time bomb. He was told several times that he needed heart surgery to fix some problem, but he refused. But then, when he was quite frail and weak, he consented to the heart surgery. Unfortunately, by the time he consented to the surgery, they told him he was too frail and weak to survive the surgery and they would not do it. He was in a wheelchair that he could not operate, and in a motorized hospital bed at home, and wearing an oxygen mask for over 2 years before dying.
My sister in law had severe multiple sclerosis, attempted suicide with an intentional fall - leaving her a quadraplegic with broken vertebrae in her neck. That left her head fused at a 30% angle. She couldn't talk, the pupils of her eyes were unresponsive, on a feeding tube, and looked like a corpse for over 15 years before her heart gave out. My idiot brother fought to keep her alive so he could continue to collect her benefits. He kept her in a vegetative state of hell just so he could live off the income of wher benefits.

Your straight brorher?

;D

My oldest brother is one of those few people that are 100% straight. He doesn't care what a woman looks like, nor how obnoxious they are. If they have a source of income (benefits) and can tolerate him, he is goo goo gaa gaa in love with them. He is also ultra liberal.

aadam101

@Frederick:

@spam17:

@Frederick:

@aadam101:

Nobody receives Hospice services for 15 years. Medicare actually caps it at six months (which is a long time for this service) and it's rather difficult to continue with the services via Medicare. Hospice is for end of life care. It's basically when treatment has stopped and you are just trying to make the patient comfortable until they die.

People rarely die when they are expected to. They also don't die when their insurance coverage runs out (although sometimes I wonder…).

Just in my very limited personal experience:
My aunt was diagnosed with terminal breast cancer that had gotten to her lymph nodes. She was told she would be gone within 3 months. She lasted over a year.
My dad's 2nd wife's mother had all sorts of medical problems including severe dementia, heart problems, diabetes, legs swollen up like tree trunks.. could not walk, could not even operate her wheelchair.. and lingered like that for 15 years.
My grandfather had rheumatism as a child which gave him what is called a "rheumatic heart" that is like a time bomb. He was told several times that he needed heart surgery to fix some problem, but he refused. But then, when he was quite frail and weak, he consented to the heart surgery. Unfortunately, by the time he consented to the surgery, they told him he was too frail and weak to survive the surgery and they would not do it. He was in a wheelchair that he could not operate, and in a motorized hospital bed at home, and wearing an oxygen mask for over 2 years before dying.
My sister in law had severe multiple sclerosis, attempted suicide with an intentional fall - leaving her a quadraplegic with broken vertebrae in her neck. That left her head fused at a 30% angle. She couldn't talk, the pupils of her eyes were unresponsive, on a feeding tube, and looked like a corpse for over 15 years before her heart gave out. My idiot brother fought to keep her alive so he could continue to collect her benefits. He kept her in a vegetative state of hell just so he could live off the income of wher benefits.

Your straight brorher?

;D

My oldest brother is one of those few people that are 100% straight. He doesn't care what a woman looks like, nor how obnoxious they are. If they have a source of income (benefits) and can tolerate him, he is goo goo gaa gaa in love with them. He is also ultra liberal.

He sounds a lot like Melania!

Frederick

@aadam101:

@Frederick:

@spam17:

@Frederick:

@aadam101:

Nobody receives Hospice services for 15 years. Medicare actually caps it at six months (which is a long time for this service) and it's rather difficult to continue with the services via Medicare. Hospice is for end of life care. It's basically when treatment has stopped and you are just trying to make the patient comfortable until they die.

People rarely die when they are expected to. They also don't die when their insurance coverage runs out (although sometimes I wonder…).

Just in my very limited personal experience:
My aunt was diagnosed with terminal breast cancer that had gotten to her lymph nodes. She was told she would be gone within 3 months. She lasted over a year.
My dad's 2nd wife's mother had all sorts of medical problems including severe dementia, heart problems, diabetes, legs swollen up like tree trunks.. could not walk, could not even operate her wheelchair.. and lingered like that for 15 years.
My grandfather had rheumatism as a child which gave him what is called a "rheumatic heart" that is like a time bomb. He was told several times that he needed heart surgery to fix some problem, but he refused. But then, when he was quite frail and weak, he consented to the heart surgery. Unfortunately, by the time he consented to the surgery, they told him he was too frail and weak to survive the surgery and they would not do it. He was in a wheelchair that he could not operate, and in a motorized hospital bed at home, and wearing an oxygen mask for over 2 years before dying.
My sister in law had severe multiple sclerosis, attempted suicide with an intentional fall - leaving her a quadraplegic with broken vertebrae in her neck. That left her head fused at a 30% angle. She couldn't talk, the pupils of her eyes were unresponsive, on a feeding tube, and looked like a corpse for over 15 years before her heart gave out. My idiot brother fought to keep her alive so he could continue to collect her benefits. He kept her in a vegetative state of hell just so he could live off the income of wher benefits.

Your straight brorher?

;D

My oldest brother is one of those few people that are 100% straight. He doesn't care what a woman looks like, nor how obnoxious they are. If they have a source of income (benefits) and can tolerate him, he is goo goo gaa gaa in love with them. He is also ultra liberal.

He sounds a lot like Melania!

You don't think Trump is a good looking man? His greatest weakness is how pale his skin, and how fair his hair is. Certainly Trump looks better than #44 Obama, #43 George W. Bush, and #39 Carter. If you want to talk about hidieous, ugly, and monstrous - then we must talk about Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and Auntie Maxine Waters.

aadam101

I would rather eat Hillary's snatch then get anywhere near a naked Trump.

cteavin

@aadam101:

I would rather eat Hillary's snatch then get anywhere near a naked Trump.

OMG, I just realized what could actually force me into committing suicide. If those were my two choices, I'd just leave this world permanently.
:blownose:

Frederick

@cteavin:

@aadam101:

I would rather eat Hillary's snatch then get anywhere near a naked Trump.

OMG, I just realized what could actually force me into committing suicide. If those were my two choices, I'd just leave this world permanently.
:blownose:

That reminds me of the question I have asked moonbats many times, but never gotten an answer. If not Trump.. who? They typically reply "ANYBODY!" without specifying anyone. It's funny that even though they only had two choices - Trump or Hillary - none of them have the guts to say that they would prefer Hillary. I did hear one mentally disturbed bitch democratic strategist say yesterday that she wishes Obama was president - which is ironic - because Obama has already completed 2 terms and can never be president again. Oprah can't be president because the Russians have nude photos of her when she was 350 pounds having sex with Gayle King - and they could blackmail her.