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    Looks like North Korea is going to get zapped.

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    • FrederickF Offline
      Frederick
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      @mhorndisk:

      Actually it flow over Japan and the Japanese government turned on the sirens and warned all the people to get to shelter. Kim is suicidal and a maniac. I can't help but think he's doing this as part of a bigger conspiracy to get the North Korean nation in line with the Rothschild central bank and issue their world government money. Just me being a conspiracy theorist though… He's just acting too recklessly.

      Here's an idea… get Japan to manufacture MOABs.  Japan is not known for being timid or showing restraint. 
      I would remind people that a decade or two ago, CHINA has also threatened to turn the USA into ashes.
      My best guess is that North Korea is just a sacrificial pawn of China to test the resolve of the USA.

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      • M Offline
        mhorndisk
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        Very possible!

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        • Shami94S Offline
          Shami94
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          It is a very easy prediction that Trump will do absolutely nothing about NK as a result of the missile test over Japan. They will go begging China and Russia to agree to more ineffectual sanctions at the UN. They will make stupid speeches at the UN Security Council, and zip.

          After all, the US knows that an attack on NK means that 20 million South Koreans living just across the border in Seoul will come under immediate attack from NK's massive array of artillery and rockets which could never be neutralised before massive loss of life in SK.

          Just because NK is a "brutal dictatorship" at least according to US based MSM, it doesn't follow that they don't have the right to defend themselves from US aggression.

          The US regularly flies nuclear armed bombers close to their borders and sails nuclear armed warships and submarines off their coast.

          How many countries has NK attacked in the last fifty years? Zero. How many countries has the USA attacked in the last fifty years? 67.

          Which is the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons against the civilian populations of another country?

          NK, backed by China and probably Russia, have effectively neutralised US power and aggression in the region. They have successfully made the USA look pathetic and Trump look like a maniac.

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          • FrederickF Offline
            Frederick
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            @Shami94:

            It is a very easy prediction that Trump will do absolutely nothing about NK as a result of the missile test over Japan. They will go begging China and Russia to agree to more ineffectual sanctions at the UN. They will make stupid speeches at the UN Security Council, and zip.

            After all, the US knows that an attack on NK means that 20 million South Koreans living just across the border in Seoul will come under immediate attack from NK's massive array of artillery and rockets which could never be neutralised before massive loss of life in SK.

            Just because NK is a "brutal dictatorship" at least according to US based MSM, it doesn't follow that they don't have the right to defend themselves from US aggression.

            The US regularly flies nuclear armed bombers close to their borders and sails nuclear armed warships and submarines off their coast.

            How many countries has NK attacked in the last fifty years? Zero. How many countries has the USA attacked in the last fifty years? 67.

            Which is the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons against the civilian populations of another country?

            NK, backed by China and probably Russia, have effectively neutralised US power and aggression in the region. They have successfully made the USA look pathetic and Trump look like a maniac.

            It's bad enough when someone posts false comments.  It's intolerable that once they are corrected, they repeat their false comments.  I think you should go find another hobby other than to post misinformation in this group. 
            Some people in this group sometimes post OPINIONS or SPECULATION which is fine.  But what you are doing is posting blatant false data.

            Let me go over this again.  You are claiming that attacking North Korea would result in an immediate attack on Seoul, killing 20 million people with artillery shells and rockets.  Not that many years ago, Hezbollah in Lebanon launched rockets into Israel 24/7 for over a month - resulting in about 800 deaths.  Your estimation of the lethality of artillery and rockets is wildly exaggerated.  In WW2, the nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed roughly 100,000 people in each city. 
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

            The population of Seoul is 10 million people, so it would be quite a feat to kill 20 million people in Seoul.

            But beyond that… lets just assume that you are correct, even though you are completely wrong.
            NK has been at WAR with South Korea since 1950 (67 years ago).  They are still at war, and currently in a state of "cease fire".  NK was allowed to build this massive stockpile of artillery and rockets that you are so fixated on.  Now, NK has developed ICBMs that can reach anywhere in the USA, and also they have developed nuclear bombs.  At what point is someone supposed to attack NK to stop them from nuking NYC?  or Los Angeles?    Do you think NK is suddenly going to say after 67 years  "oh shucks!  we was only teasing!"

            As for NK having the right to defend themselves.  Nuclear weapons are not defensive weapons, they are offensive.  No nation on the world has used nuclear weapons since learning how dangerous they are for decades after their use because of radioactivity.  It is in fact illegal for North Korea to be developing those long range missiles and nukes.  You don't seem to be aware of that.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

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            • Shami94S Offline
              Shami94
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              It is of course a well known facts that the population of the Seoul Capital Area in range of NK conventional weapons is 20 million, as can be easily looked up online of you happen to have such limited general knowledge.

              It is amazing how Americans are in such ignorance of general facts and then so vehemently deny them. For example, most Americans believe that their military strength is somewhere in about "balance" with other superpowers. In fact, US military spending is equal to the sum of the next 13 largest spending countries in the world. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Top_ten_military_expenditures_in_$_in_2013.jpg.jpeg#file)

              The very next question that would occur to anyone of intelligence not in immediate denial of this facts, is why such a huge imbalance? And with a war machine economy so dependant on its military industry, what does it need to do to its population in order to sustain it?

              The answer is the manufacture of enemies.

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              • FrederickF Offline
                Frederick
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                @Shami94:

                It is of course a well known facts that the population of the Seoul Capital Area in range of NK conventional weapons is 20 million, as can be easily looked up online of you happen to have such limited general knowledge.

                It is amazing how Americans are in such ignorance of general facts and then so vehemently deny them.

                How many times do I have to correct you about this?  I think there is some kind of rule against blatantly posting factually false statements. 
                Seoul has slightly over 10 million people.. not 20 million.  This is Seoul's OWN WEBSITE:
                http://english.seoul.go.kr/get-to-know-us/seoul-views/meaning-of-seoul/4-population/

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                • raphjdR Online
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                  The US pays so much in military arms because like we see with NATO, the UN and everything else, the US has to pay for the rest of the world.

                  India needs welfare because they refuse to spend their money on welfare for the "untouchables" so the UK has to pay for it.

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                  • Shami94S Offline
                    Shami94
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                    @Frederick:

                    @Shami94:

                    It is of course a well known facts that the population of the Seoul Capital Area in range of NK conventional weapons is 20 million, as can be easily looked up online of you happen to have such limited general knowledge.

                    It is amazing how Americans are in such ignorance of general facts and then so vehemently deny them.

                    How many times do I have to correct you about this?   I think there is some kind of rule against blatantly posting factually false statements. 
                    Seoul has slightly over 10 million people.. not 20 million.  This is Seoul's OWN WEBSITE:
                    http://english.seoul.go.kr/get-to-know-us/seoul-views/meaning-of-seoul/4-population/

                    Yes I know you have trouble reading, but I clearly said "Seoul Capital Region". If you are capable of understanding a simple wikipedia page, you can look at the side box where it specifies the population: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul_Capital_Area

                    Population (2016)
                    • Metro[1] 25,514,000

                    Also, when we are talking about "in range of conventional weapons", most people with the minimum of intelligence would understand that to mean a geographic region, not a set of postcodes.

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                    • T Offline
                      TroopK
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                      The Seoul Capital Area houses about half of the country's population of 51.44 million people

                      • Wkipedia

                      But you've never let facts stand in the way of a rant before.

                      I claim my red bar

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                      • Shami94S Offline
                        Shami94
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                        Though one person who does agree with your 10 million figure but not with your laughable and spectacularly ignorant assessment of the capability of conventional weapons is your hero Steve Bannon, when he said in an interview just before Trump fired him:

                        "There’s no military solution [to North Korea’s nuclear threats], forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us."

                        (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/17/steve_bannon_rules_out_a_military_option_in_north_korea_and_contradicts.html)

                        I suppose you should call him up and give him your "part of the equation" since your are clearly much more of an expert on the subject than anyone in the White House advising the president.

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                        • FrederickF Offline
                          Frederick
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                          @Shami94:

                          Though one person who does agree with your 10 million figure but not with your laughable and spectacularly ignorant assessment of the capability of conventional weapons is your hero Steve Bannon, when he said in an interview just before Trump fired him:

                          "There’s no military solution [to North Korea’s nuclear threats], forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us."

                          (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/17/steve_bannon_rules_out_a_military_option_in_north_korea_and_contradicts.html)

                          I suppose you should call him up and give him your "part of the equation" since your are clearly much more of an expert on the subject than anyone in the White House advising the president.

                          You moonbats are hopeless.

                          I don't think we will have to  wait long to see who was right about Seoul.. because North Korea will be attacked sooner rather than later.

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                          • M Offline
                            mhorndisk
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                            It's also possible Bannon simply was throwing Kim off his game while the US develops its plan to strike hard… You don't know. Neither do any of us.

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                            • Shami94S Offline
                              Shami94
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                              S t i l l  w a i t i n g  . . .

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                              • FrederickF Offline
                                Frederick
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                                @Shami94:

                                S t i l l   w a i t i n g   . . .

                                You have quite a cavalier attitude about a war which YOU say will kill millions of people on the first day.

                                Don't worry, you will get your wish sicko.

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                                • Shami94S Offline
                                  Shami94
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                                  No wait!

                                  A force of US bombers escorted at a very safe distance by fighters from South Korea and Japan have dropped bombs!

                                  Oh, they dropped them on South Korea… and rushed the video out to the MSM.

                                  Decisive action at last !

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                                  • FrederickF Offline
                                    Frederick
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                                    @Shami94:

                                    No wait!

                                    A force of US bombers escorted at a very safe distance by fighters from South Korea and Japan have dropped bombs!

                                    Oh, they dropped them on South Korea… and rushed the video out to the MSM.

                                    Decisive action at last !

                                    If you didn't have your head stuck in a dry, hairy, cold, vagina.. you would know that exercise was part of the joint USA/South Korean war games.

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                                    • Shami94S Offline
                                      Shami94
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                                      Since your silly prediction 9 days ago that NK is "about to be zapped":

                                      1. NK has launched a ballistic missile over northern Japan.
                                      2. NK has unveiled a miniaturised H bomb able to be fitted into a warhead.
                                      3. NK has tested a H bomb.
                                      4. USA has made idle and pathetic threats and argued that NK is "begging of war" at the UN. A statement rejected by the world.
                                      5. Putin has rejected US calls for more sanctions calling them useless and that NK would eat grass rather than give up the right to DEFEND ITSELF from US aggression.
                                      6. China has said that it will not allow war and chaos to break out on the Korean Peninsular, strongly rebuffing Trump's threats.

                                      S t i l l  W a i t i ng  f o r  y ou r  z a p.

                                      The USA has been played and has been humiliated and waiting for the trumptards to wake up to what is obvious to everyone else. They elected a complete fuck wit as POTUS.

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                                      • M Offline
                                        mhorndisk
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                                        That is a very disrespectful and idiotic statement. You ain't seen nothing yet pal. We are literally going to kick your ass to the moon. "The USA has been played." You obviously have no brain whatsoever. You're going to eat your words soon. People like you think things are accomplished by waving a magical wand.

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                                          mhorndisk
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                                          These statements are pure fiction.

                                          4. USA has made idle and pathetic threats and argued that NK is "begging of war" at the UN. A statement rejected by the world.
                                          5. Putin has rejected US calls for more sanctions calling them useless and that NK would eat grass rather than give up the right to DEFEND ITSELF from US aggression.

                                          A statement rejected by the world??? Are you freaking serious? They flew an ICBM over Japan!

                                          Putin has ordered an evacuation near the border. The total non-sense that you are stating is unbelievable!

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                                          • FrederickF Offline
                                            Frederick
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                                            @Shami94:

                                            Since your silly prediction 9 days ago that NK is "about to be zapped":

                                            1. NK has launched a ballistic missile over northern Japan.
                                            2. NK has unveiled a miniaturised H bomb able to be fitted into a warhead.
                                            3. NK has tested a H bomb.
                                            4. USA has made idle and pathetic threats and argued that NK is "begging of war" at the UN. A statement rejected by the world.
                                            5. Putin has rejected US calls for more sanctions calling them useless and that NK would eat grass rather than give up the right to DEFEND ITSELF from US aggression.
                                            6. China has said that it will not allow war and chaos to break out on the Korean Peninsular, strongly rebuffing Trump's threats.

                                            S t i l l   W a i t i ng   f o r   y ou r   z a p.

                                            The USA has been played and has been humiliated and waiting for the trumptards to wake up to what is obvious to everyone else. They elected a complete fuck wit as POTUS.

                                            Everything you said just shows that the time to attack NK is getting closer and more necessary all the time.

                                            1. NK has launched a ballistic missile over northern Japan.
                                            Japan will demand that NK be stopped and do it themselves if they have to.  They are not going to sit around and wait to be nuked.  They have the technology and manufacturing capacity and money to crush North Korea
                                            2. NK has unveiled a miniaturised H bomb able to be fitted into a warhead.
                                            an H-bomb is far more complicated than an atomic bomb.  An H-Bomb uses FUSION rather than FISSION.  However, since they CLAIM it is an H-Bomb, that makes it even more imperative that we attack NOW
                                            3. NK has tested a H bomb.
                                            Doubtful, but they certainly made a very big BOOM BOOM
                                            4. USA has made idle and pathetic threats and argued that NK is "begging of war" at the UN. A statement rejected by the world.
                                            No country with any credibility is supportive of North Korea
                                            5. Putin has rejected US calls for more sanctions calling them useless and that NK would eat grass rather than give up the right to DEFEND ITSELF from US aggression.
                                            Putin is correct, which means further negotiations are a waste of time and dangerous.. the time to attack is NOW
                                            6. China has said that it will not allow war and chaos to break out on the Korean Peninsular, strongly rebuffing Trump's threats.
                                            China says a lot of things.  China's economy is currently going into the toilet.  Their economic boom ended and their economic strategy failed.  Trump is now saying that the USA will cut trade with any country (China) that trades with North Korea.

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