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    Trump makes a mess for Arizona GOP with Arpaio pardon

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    • FrederickF Offline
      Frederick
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      @TroopK:

      @raphjd:

      …The judge banned him from enforcing immigration laws.

      No, he didn't.

      There are laws against illegal immigration, the judge prevented him from enforcing those laws.  So how can you say "No, he didn't".
      Are you saying that illegal immigration laws don't exist?
      Are you saying that Arpaio wasn't trying to enforce immigration laws?
      Or, are you saying that the judge didn't stop Arpaio from enforcing the immigration laws?

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        TroopK
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        If you bothered to read what was said.

        The judge didn't ban him for enforcing laws. Is this part of the deflection that someone else talked about?

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          mhorndisk
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          This is 30 minutes of the press release from Arpaio showing the "9 points of forgery" behind the birth certificate on 12/15/16. I know that's too long for you ADD liberals who don't want to hear the Truth. I'm not sure why I'm posting this - because you guys obviously pretended it didn't exist the first time. You vanish every time facts are presented. They have presented the evidence, it took five years to discover, and it is clear as day. They asked experts from all over the world help with this.

          Youtube Video

          Not ONE single liberal has tried to argue about this - instead they just scream RACIST!!! Liberals don't know how to be objective or rational. They found the birth certificate of the person he copied it from, and the lead investigator was actually a democrat who supported Obama, and just did this because he wanted to prove it wasn't True. But to his utter dismay and shock - he presents the 9 points of forgery and explains exactly how it was done. THIS is the main reason Arpaio was convicted.

          EDIT:
          I'd like to ask which one of the 9 points of forgery discovered you think are wrong and why. Otherwise, you have no standing and I am certain you will not answer - and as per usual, vanish due to the inconvenience that factual information has on your false narrative / world view / feelings.

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          • FrederickF Offline
            Frederick
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            @mhorndisk:

            This is 30 minutes of the press release from Arpaio showing the "9 points of forgery" behind the birth certificate on 12/15/16. I know that's too long for you ADD liberals who don't want to hear the Truth. I'm not sure why I'm posting this - because you guys obviously pretended it didn't exist the first time. You vanish every time facts are presented. They have presented the evidence, it took five years to discover, and it is clear as day. They asked experts from all over the world help with this.

            Youtube Video

            Not ONE single liberal has tried to argue about this - instead they just scream RACIST!!! Liberals don't know how to be objective or rational. They found the birth certificate of the person he copied it from, and the lead investigator was actually a democrat who supported Obama, and just did this because he wanted to prove it wasn't True. But to his utter dismay and shock - he presents the 9 points of forgery and explains exactly how it was done. THIS is the main reason Arpaio was convicted.

            EDIT:
            I'd like to ask which one of the 9 points of forgery discovered you think are wrong and why. Otherwise, you have no standing and I am certain you will not answer - and as per usual, vanish due to the inconvenience that factual information has on your false narrative / world view / feelings.

            History will show that Obama's birth certificate was a forgery.  That is why moonbats hate history.

            These four links both corroborate and add to what you posted:

            Youtube Video

            Youtube Video

            Youtube Video

            Youtube Video

            UPDATE:  I have analyzed the birth certificate..  and the conclusion is that the certificate itself is not what the Obama government said it was.  I avoid OPINIONS like the plague, because people stick to their opinions and it is futile to waste time debating opinions.  I stick to absolute facts.  There are a lot of controversial opinions about the digital "layers" of the document.  The reason there are layers is that the document has been digitally processed to create a small file - and in the process, producing layers - and losing the uniqueness of the document.  Processing the image created patterns and layers.  The Obama government said that the image was a "FLAT" image, which means no layers, and that it was not digitally converted / processed.  That image of the certificate is ABSOLUTELY 100%  NO DOUBT digitally processed - contrary to what Obama said.  One might ask WHY?  And WHY did he LIE about it being processed?  Where is the original piece of paper of this certificate?  Who has it?  Why was it never produced?  Oh wait, I forget.. the woman that certified that it was authentic mysteriously died a year after certifying it.. being the only one who died in a plane crash in which the other 20 people had no significant injuries. 
            As for the "angles" of the dates,  they ARE an exact match for that other birth certificate, however, since were about 9000 certificates between those two.. finding two with the same angles is not unusual. 
            What is much more valid is the FACT that Obama did not even produce a birth certificate until 1.5 years AFTER he was elected.
            Obama was raised in islamic Indonesia by a prominent muslim cleric until the age of 13. 
            Obama's own half brother produced an ACTUAL birth certificate on paper from KENYA.. not a digital image.  The Kenyan birth certificate of Obama has an EMBOSSED seal on it. 
            Here's a fact that got totally ignored.. while in college.. Obama ADMITTED to using cocaine - rather than have other people reveal that for him.  Excuse me, but using cocaine is a felony… which makes him ineligible to practice law.. so should have been disbarred.  And he sure should never have been president. 
            Obama's closest pal and mentor was a known terrorist, whom he only distanced himself from when he decided to run for president. 
            Obama's presidency was a total failure, he did not fulfill any of his promises.  He didn't get the troops out of anywhere.. and wars re-ignited rather than faded away.. and we now have Obama's baby - ISIS!  I supposed Obama would like to take credit for same-sex marriages - but that wasn't due to him.. he just jumped on the bandwagon after several states individually make same-sex marriages legal.

            The bottom line.. Obama should never have been elected.  His candidacy and presidency was a lie and a fraud.  He did nothing to make the county better for anybody - including blacks.  Those confederate statues were all sitting there on their pedestals during the entire presidency of Obama.. Obama did nothing about it.  Suddenly when TRUMP is president, those statues are a problem!

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              mhorndisk
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              To be biased and to analyze the counterclaims:

              Some of the dingbats have said in the comments for these videos that it was the OTHER birth certificate that was forged to make it LOOK like Obama's was forged. While this is a wonderfully deceptive argument, certain information totally contradicts this:

              A:) The woman who's BC was forged was interviewed
              B:) Her birth certificate was verified as legit by the State
              C:) Michelle (Michael?) said he was from Kenya at least twice
              D:) What motive would Joe have to do that? Oh-He's just being racist
              E:) It would require blotting the ink perfectly (not the background) instead of fading the replica (easy)

              The only piece of the puzzle left is that they claim that "one of" the Newspapers declared his birth, which I am not sure of, but I don't think so.

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                TroopK
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                Erm, does it matter. I don't think Obama is president any longer

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                  mhorndisk
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                  Yep. It matters. I love how you ask "does it matter," when factual proof is presented. Way to not answer the question about which of the 9 points of forgery you think are wrong and why! Typical, but not unexpected.

                  The reason it matters is because it proves that all along Obama was a fraud, and you guys threw racism in our face, but when it comes to answering whether or not he actually was a criminal - we're just racist, when we are analyzing factual information.

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                  • raphjdR Offline
                    raphjd Forum Administrator
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                    @TroopK:

                    If you bothered to read what was said.

                    The judge didn't ban him for enforcing laws. Is this part of the deflection that someone else talked about?

                    Typical leftist rubbish.

                    The judge prohibited him and his deputies from enforcing immigration laws.  That is why he was found guilty of contempt of court.

                    Please stop SJWing words to suit your needs.

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                      mhorndisk
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                      LOL!  :crazy2: You nailed it again. How do you always do that Raph???

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                        TroopK
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                        @raphjd:

                        The judge prohibited him and his deputies from enforcing immigration laws.

                        No he didn't. Please check your facts 🙂

                        So, another red bar for me  :cheers:

                        Another brown nose for mhorndisk, perhaps

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                          TroopK
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                          @mhorndisk:

                          …when factual proof is presented...

                          That is opposed to the fictional proof we see so much of. Next you'll be explaining the difference between real facts and unreal facts

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                          • FrederickF Offline
                            Frederick
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                            @TroopK:

                            Erm, does it matter. I don't think Obama is president any longer

                            While president.. Obama was able to cover his ass with a corrupt Attorney General, etc. 
                            Now that the Obama regime is mostly gone,  the truth is now emerging.

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                              mhorndisk
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                              @TroopK:

                              @mhorndisk:

                              …when factual proof is presented...

                              That is opposed to the fictional proof we see so much of. Next you'll be explaining the difference between real facts and unreal facts

                              Way to evade answering the question, as I accurately predicted you would, because you cannot be inconvenienced by factual information. I'll ask one more time. Which of the 9 points of forgery are "fictional proof," and why?

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                                TroopK
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                                I didn't say anything was fictional, I was merely pointing out the tautology of 'factual proof'.

                                I wasn't evading answering the question. I had no intention of answering whatever the question was.

                                Another red bar please

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                                  TroopK
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                                  @Frederick:

                                  … the truth is now emerging.

                                  :cheers: Can you tell me which forum that's in ?

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                                  • FrederickF Offline
                                    Frederick
                                    last edited by

                                    @TroopK:

                                    @Frederick:

                                    … the truth is now emerging.

                                    :cheers: Can you tell me which forum that's in ?

                                    What forum is that in?  I wasn't particularly referring to any forum.. but in regards to this site..  check out the "Politics & Debate" forum. 
                                    I am perplexed what you are so happy about with your silly little celebration smiley / emoji.  Are you mentally ill?

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                                    • raphjdR Offline
                                      raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                      Arpaio is accused of being a racist because most of the people he held for illegal immigration were "brown".    Well, fucking duh!!!!

                                      In 2009, 78% of illegals were from Central and South America.  Only 7% were clearly not Hispanic/latino.  The remaining 15% are unknown from the chart because any country that made up less than 1% of the total of illegals, were lumped into "others".    The only thing we do know about the "other 15%" is that Canada has between 69k and 73k illegally living in the US in 2009.

                                      This is how the left can artificially claim that he's a racist.  Most of the people he arrests for violating immigration laws are hispanic/latino, because they are most of the illegals.

                                      It would be racist if he was mostly arresting non hispanic/latino people for violating immigration laws.

                                      ++++

                                      Racial profiling is always bad, according to the left, unless it's anti white.

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                                      • FrederickF Offline
                                        Frederick
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                                        @raphjd:

                                        Arpaio is accused of being a racist because most of the people he held for illegal immigration were "brown".    Well, fucking duh!!!!

                                        In 2009, 78% of illegals were from Central and South America.  Only 7% were clearly not Hispanic/latino.   The remaining 15% are unknown from the chart because any country that made up less than 1% of the total of illegals, were lumped into "others".    The only thing we do know about the "other 15%" is that Canada has between 69k and 73k illegally living in the US in 2009.

                                        This is how the left can artificially claim that he's a racist.   Most of the people he arrests for violating immigration laws are hispanic/latino, because they are most of the illegals.

                                        It would be racist if he was mostly arresting non hispanic/latino people for violating immigration laws.

                                        ++++

                                        Racial profiling is always bad, according to the left, unless it's anti white.

                                        After we get done putting up a wall to keep the rapists, murderers, drug dealers, and terrorists from flooding in from Mexico..   we should put up a wall in the north to keep those damned Canadians from smuggling in maple syrup, lumber, and milk!

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                                        • raphjdR Offline
                                          raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                          HELL NO!!!!

                                          I need my maple syrup.

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                                            TroopK
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                                            @Frederick:

                                            Are you mentally ill?

                                            Sometimes when reading this forum I do question my sanity. Actually not just mine  :cheers:

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