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    • raphjdR Offline
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      By "endorsing" you mean he didn't blame every tiny bit of violence on them.  That he also blamed the left for their part in the violence.

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        @raphjd:

        By "endorsing" you mean he didn't blame every tiny bit of violence on them.   That he also blamed the left for their part in the violence.

        "Also" my foot. He claimed there were good people on both sides. There are no good white supremacists or KKK members, never have been and never will be. He endorsed white supremacy on LIVE TV Tuesday and has been endorsing white nationalism since before he ran for president. It wasn't both sides that ran over and murdered a woman, only one side did that. And please, spare us all the deflection of bringing up BLM and other irrelevant topics to this discussion because BLM didn't run that woman over either. A white supremacist did. And he did it in the name of our president just like David Duke and the rest of the white supremacists marched in the name of this president. The time for deflection has run out and the reality is sinking in, which is why Bannon has now been kicked out of the White House.

        This recent horrific situation and the president's approval of it directly ties in with him still to this day wanting five innocent black men DEAD.

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        • FrederickF Offline
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          @royalcrown89:

          @raphjd:

          By "endorsing" you mean he didn't blame every tiny bit of violence on them.   That he also blamed the left for their part in the violence.

          "Also" my foot. He claimed there were good people on both sides. There are no good white supremacists or KKK members, never have been and never will be.

          Just keep on making up fake news.. you aren't fooling anybody that matters.

          By the way.. there are plenty of good white supremacists and KKK members.  Not for being white supremacists or KKK members, but for their other contributions. 
          Here's a short list:
          Charles Lindbergh, George Washington, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Walt Disney, Henry Ford,  Tiger Woods, etc.

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            @raphjd:

            By "endorsing" you mean he didn't blame every tiny bit of violence on them.   That he also blamed the left for their part in the violence.

            ;D

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              So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?

              You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions.    It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.

              There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.

              I hate racists, they suck.  HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.

              Watch Tucker Carlson.  Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.

              You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months.    That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.

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              • FrederickF Offline
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                @raphjd:

                So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?

                You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions.    It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.

                There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.

                I hate racists, they suck.   HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.

                Watch Tucker Carlson.  Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.

                You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months.     That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.

                I don't hate anyone based upon their race.. however.. I do hate them for their behavior.  I have certain EXPECTATIONS of people based upon several factors such as gender, race, age, social standing, etc.    A couple of examples..  I have not had problems with muslim MALES, but the females seem to think they are elite goddesses or something.. and quite rude.  I don't get along with them.  I've had several instances with hispanic males where they tried to intimidate me and threatened to kill me.  They seemed to think that I would back down, and were infuriated when I did not.  I've noticed that black males are fairly non-confrontational as compared to hispanic ones.  They seem afraid to cross the violence line for fear of what punishment they will get.  I don't hold back at all with white people, so confrontations with them never build up with me.. ALTHOUGH.. I have found that middle aged women think they can boss me around and get away with it.  They are quite mistaken.  I think a lot of this has to do with what people think they can get away with.

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                • raphjdR Offline
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                  Only leftists call me a racist, Nazi and whatnot.

                  People on the right, regardless of race, never do.

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                  • royalcrown89R Offline
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                    @raphjd:

                    So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?

                    You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions.    It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.

                    There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.

                    I hate racists, they suck.   HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.

                    Watch Tucker Carlson.  Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.

                    You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months.     That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.

                    You of all people know that I have called out violence on the left and that BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE the right hadn't done anything close to what the left was doing. However, the moment someone was ran over by a white supremacist in our president's name, the comparison argument became a losing argument. And for whatever reason, you're still clinging to that argument when pretty much everyone across the political spectrum has accepted that that argument is OVER. There are no points of comparison with death because you can't bring someone back from the dead. Now that we're at this point, your "bike lock liberal" argument has basically lost its validity. I was with you criticizing antifa and you know I was. But not now. Until antifa runs someone over or causes someone to lose their life AND THE MURDERER CLEARLY STATES THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF ANTIFA, this argument is OVER and there are NO comparisons.

                    Now back to the point of this thread, the president calling KKK members and other white supremacists "good people" directly ties to his desire to execute five innocent black men. As a result, the overwhelming majority of the country is done with him. No amount of derailment by you or anyone else will change that fact and this problem isn't going away just because he got rid of one of the white supremacists in the White House.

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                    • FrederickF Offline
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                      @royalcrown89:

                      @raphjd:

                      So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?

                      You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions.    It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.

                      There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.

                      I hate racists, they suck.   HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.

                      Watch Tucker Carlson.  Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.

                      You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months.     That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.

                      You of all people know that I have called out violence on the left and that BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE the right hadn't done anything close to what the left was doing. However, the moment someone was ran over by a white supremacist in our president's name, the comparison argument became a losing argument. And for whatever reason, you're still clinging to that argument when pretty much everyone across the political spectrum has accepted that that argument is OVER. There are no points of comparison with death because you can't bring someone back from the dead. Now that we're at this point, your "bike lock liberal" argument has basically lost its validity. I was with you criticizing antifa and you know I was. But not now. Until antifa runs someone over or causes someone to lose their life AND THE MURDERER CLEARLY STATES THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF ANTIFA, this argument is OVER and there are NO comparisons.

                      Now back to the point of this thread, the president calling KKK members and other white supremacists "good people" directly ties to his desire to execute five innocent black men. As a result, the overwhelming majority of the country is done with him. No amount of derailment by you or anyone else will change that fact and this problem isn't going away just because he got rid of one of the white supremacists in the White House.

                      I'm not sure who you are referring to as the "five innocent black men".  To begin with, it is impossible to prove someone to be innocent.  They can be found "not guilty" or "acquitted" but not "innocent".  I think you might be referring to the central park incident.  Just because their DNA was not found in the woman's cooch doesn't mean they didn't rape her and certainly doesn't mean they didn't beat the shit out of her.  If that is whom you are referring to, that is a very poor example.

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                      • royalcrown89R Offline
                        royalcrown89
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                        @Frederick:

                        @royalcrown89:

                        @raphjd:

                        So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?

                        You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions.    It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.

                        There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.

                        I hate racists, they suck.   HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.

                        Watch Tucker Carlson.  Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.

                        You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months.     That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.

                        You of all people know that I have called out violence on the left and that BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE the right hadn't done anything close to what the left was doing. However, the moment someone was ran over by a white supremacist in our president's name, the comparison argument became a losing argument. And for whatever reason, you're still clinging to that argument when pretty much everyone across the political spectrum has accepted that that argument is OVER. There are no points of comparison with death because you can't bring someone back from the dead. Now that we're at this point, your "bike lock liberal" argument has basically lost its validity. I was with you criticizing antifa and you know I was. But not now. Until antifa runs someone over or causes someone to lose their life AND THE MURDERER CLEARLY STATES THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF ANTIFA, this argument is OVER and there are NO comparisons.

                        Now back to the point of this thread, the president calling KKK members and other white supremacists "good people" directly ties to his desire to execute five innocent black men. As a result, the overwhelming majority of the country is done with him. No amount of derailment by you or anyone else will change that fact and this problem isn't going away just because he got rid of one of the white supremacists in the White House.

                        I'm not sure who you are referring to as the "five innocent black men".   To begin with, it is impossible to prove someone to be innocent.  They can be found "not guilty" or "acquitted" but not "innocent".   I think you might be referring to the central park incident.  Just because their DNA was not found in the woman's cooch doesn't mean they didn't rape her and certainly doesn't mean they didn't beat the shit out of her.   If that is whom you are referring to, that is a very poor example.

                        You know I'm referencing the Central Park 5 because that's what this thread is about and has been about since I began it over a month ago. The murderer who confessed acted alone and that has been proven beyond a doubt now. The five who were charged and coerced into admitting guilt never came into contact with the woman, which was proven and why they were awarded the money following years of court hearings where it was proven that they never came into contact with her. Yes, they are innocent and they were exonerated. Our president is still calling for their deaths and has not walked it back and that is indefensible. It is disgusting and against how our justice system works.

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                        • FrederickF Offline
                          Frederick
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                          @royalcrown89:

                          @Frederick:

                          @royalcrown89:

                          @raphjd:

                          So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?

                          You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions.    It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.

                          There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.

                          I hate racists, they suck.   HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.

                          Watch Tucker Carlson.  Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.

                          You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months.     That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.

                          You of all people know that I have called out violence on the left and that BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE the right hadn't done anything close to what the left was doing. However, the moment someone was ran over by a white supremacist in our president's name, the comparison argument became a losing argument. And for whatever reason, you're still clinging to that argument when pretty much everyone across the political spectrum has accepted that that argument is OVER. There are no points of comparison with death because you can't bring someone back from the dead. Now that we're at this point, your "bike lock liberal" argument has basically lost its validity. I was with you criticizing antifa and you know I was. But not now. Until antifa runs someone over or causes someone to lose their life AND THE MURDERER CLEARLY STATES THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF ANTIFA, this argument is OVER and there are NO comparisons.

                          Now back to the point of this thread, the president calling KKK members and other white supremacists "good people" directly ties to his desire to execute five innocent black men. As a result, the overwhelming majority of the country is done with him. No amount of derailment by you or anyone else will change that fact and this problem isn't going away just because he got rid of one of the white supremacists in the White House.

                          I'm not sure who you are referring to as the "five innocent black men".   To begin with, it is impossible to prove someone to be innocent.  They can be found "not guilty" or "acquitted" but not "innocent".   I think you might be referring to the central park incident.  Just because their DNA was not found in the woman's cooch doesn't mean they didn't rape her and certainly doesn't mean they didn't beat the shit out of her.   If that is whom you are referring to, that is a very poor example.

                          You know I'm referencing the Central Park 5 because that's what this thread is about and has been about since I began it over a month ago. The murderer who confessed acted alone and that has been proven beyond a doubt now. The five who were charged and coerced into admitting guilt never came into contact with the woman, which was proven and why they were awarded the money following years of court hearings where it was proven that they never came into contact with her. Yes, they are innocent and they were exonerated. Our president is still calling for their deaths and has not walked it back and that is indefensible. It is disgusting and against how our justice system works.

                          That is bullshit and you know it.  They were exonerated because the one guy whose DNA was confirmed got blamed for everything.  Are you saying he acted alone?    By the way.. it is impossible to prove someone is innocent.

                          I hope you are still posting when the case I have been working on for 5 years comes up.  THAT is a case in which there was NO evidence against the guy, the government forced him to take heavy duty psychiatric medications - enough to kill a horse, turn his skin green, and caused him to gain 70 pounds in 8 months.  Even then, it took 20 months to get him to not deny the crime.  He never did confess to it.  What he did say is loaded with contradictions, omissions, and doesn't fit the timeline.  The prosecution even said that what he finally stated in documents - which were never read to the jury - and he never testified other than to say he was Not Guilty of all charges in his arraingment, pre-trial, and trial - were statements made just to pursue an insanity plea cooked up by his crooked attorney - who it turns out is the best friend of a man that worked for the main person filing charges against him.  That is like having a defense attorney who is the brother of the husband of a woman that was murdered.  The psychiatrist that brainwashed the man was on the payroll of the police for several years, which the accused / convicted man was never made aware of.  The accused man is on record as saying that what he told the psychiatrist was what his lawyer told him to say as a condition of pursuing an insanity plea.  You think I will get that guy out?  You can bet your sweet bippy I will!  One of the reasons I am in this group is to practice beating back fake statements and crazy buffoons such as the moonbats.

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                            They are still alive. If they are innocent, than they most likely will not be executed, regardless if the President has all the facts - the media gives lots of fake misinformation. That's the problem. If the President still believes in their execution, maybe he isn't aware of ALL the facts yet. Big deal. It doesn't mean that he is going to have them executed - that's a state issue. So what?

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                            • royalcrown89R Offline
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                              @Frederick:

                              That is bullshit and you know it.  They were exonerated because the one guy whose DNA was confirmed got blamed for everything.  Are you saying he acted alone?    By the way.. it is impossible to prove someone is innocent.

                              According to judges and the laws of the state of New York, the five men did NOT do ANYTHING to the woman who was attacked and enough evidence was presented to EXONERATE THEM OF ALL CHARGES. They did not rape her. They did not touch her. Unless you yourself have proof that says otherwise, your opinion is wholly irrelevant to what the law says. The state then proceeded to award them restitution, which still doesn't give back the years they spent in prison. Still, none of that is my point. My point is that our coward, lying, disgusting president STILL TO THIS DAY calls for their executions and now everyone–-most of us already knew---knows why he still calls for their executions. This past week revealed to those in denial just who our president really is.

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                                royalcrown89
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                                @Frederick:

                                I hope you are still posting when the case I have been working on for 5 years comes up.  THAT is a case in which there was NO evidence against the guy, the government forced him to take heavy duty psychiatric medications - enough to kill a horse, turn his skin green, and caused him to gain 70 pounds in 8 months.  Even then, it took 20 months to get him to not deny the crime.  He never did confess to it.  What he did say is loaded with contradictions, omissions, and doesn't fit the timeline.  The prosecution even said that what he finally stated in documents - which were never read to the jury - and he never testified other than to say he was Not Guilty of all charges in his arraingment, pre-trial, and trial - were statements made just to pursue an insanity plea cooked up by his crooked attorney - who it turns out is the best friend of a man that worked for the main person filing charges against him.  That is like having a defense attorney who is the brother of the husband of a woman that was murdered.   The psychiatrist that brainwashed the man was on the payroll of the police for several years, which the accused / convicted man was never made aware of.  The accused man is on record as saying that what he told the psychiatrist was what his lawyer told him to say as a condition of pursuing an insanity plea.   You think I will get that guy out?  You can bet your sweet bippy I will!  One of the reasons I am in this group is to practice beating back fake statements and crazy buffoons such as the moonbats.

                                None of this has anything to do with this thread; therefore, it is 100%  :ot:

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                                • royalcrown89R Offline
                                  royalcrown89
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                                  @mhorndisk:

                                  They are still alive. If they are innocent

                                  They are innocent because no evidence was ever provided to say otherwise and they were exonerated by compelling DNA evidence, proving they have never been in contact with the victim of that horrific crime.

                                  @mhorndisk:

                                  than they most likely will not be executed, regardless if the President has all the facts - the media gives lots of fake misinformation. That's the problem. If the President still believes in their execution, maybe he isn't aware of ALL the facts yet. Big deal. It doesn't mean that he is going to have them executed - that's a state issue. So what?

                                  You can save all of your "fake media" talk for someone that will fall for it. There isn't a way to misconstrue this. Our disgusting lying cowardice president continues to call for the deaths of five innocent men. This says a lot about his character and who he is as a man. He's trash and after this week, everyone who was in doubt that he's trash realizes he's trash. He continues to call for their deaths because he's either a white supremacist or a white supremacist sympathizer.

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                                    The problem is basically this: You act like Trump is totally aware of the fact that they were exonerated and still calling for their execution just because they are black. You don't know that. You are drawing conjectures. That's a problem - because it's subjective rather than objective. Just this week he talked about Arpaio's pardon, but Arpaio has been asking him publically about it for weeks. He is not all seeing and all-knowing. If you feel so strongly about it, then maybe you should write him a letter to tell him the information he is not privy to. He doesn't know everything - he's got a lot going on. He's not omniscient. The only one acting like he is - is you. You act like he should just know everything, or he's lying if he doesn't. Take your nonsense elsewhere. Plus you're acting like this is still current. Yea you are posting it now, but when was the last time it was even a discussion? Wasn't it over a year ago? Why are you bringing this in now? The first article you posted was from February of 2016. Yet you keep acting like he is "still" calling for their deaths here in August of 2017. This is ridiculous. You are a True propagandist.

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                                    • royalcrown89R Offline
                                      royalcrown89
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                                      @mhorndisk:

                                      He is not all seeing and all-knowing.

                                      Oh, so you admit he's not the messiah?

                                      @mhorndisk:

                                      Take your nonsense elsewhere. Plus you're acting like this is still current. Yea you are posting it now, but when was the last time it was even a discussion? Wasn't it over a year ago? Why are you bringing this in now?

                                      2016 is very, very current. It wasn't that long ago that our president was a presidential candidate and the Republican nominee for president. Until he either apologizes or at least walks back his statements, it doesn't matter how much time goes by. The fact remains: he wants five innocent men DEAD NOW. Show me proof that he has walked back his statements on the matter? He was asked about it while running for president and on the record stated that he still wants them executed for what they did. What has been proven that they did that is punishable by death other than being innocent black men?? Can you answer that? Can anyone answer that and back it up with PROOF? Do you have court documents that prove otherwise and show they are indeed guilty of rape and attempted murder? Yeah…didn't think so. This is serious because our sitting president is someone calling for the deaths of innocent people for no other reason than the color of their skin, and my reasoning for believing so comes directly from his very own mouth. He called KKK members, neo-nazis and other white supremacists "good people" this past Tuesday on camera on LIVE TV. What kind of President of the United States calls white supremacists---one of which murdered a woman in that president's name---"good people?"

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                                        No, 2016 was last year. It's not current. You are trying to weave a story that Trump just wants some black guys to die for being black. You don't know that. You are just projecting what you want to believe. It's nonsense, and totally ludicrous. You are a propagandist. You are like "point A to point B." I don't care about what you say about this anymore. You are not convincing anyone. We are not changing our minds because of anything you say. Because it's stupid, and you are totally irrelevant because you are invoking the past without current information.

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                                          You are literally trying to weave a story that Trump just wants these guys to die because they are black. That is the dumbest propaganda I've ever heard. You are promoting your beliefs as though they are facts. This is the stupidest shit on the internet right now. It's just really, really stupid. Your IQ must be like… 19. LOL wow you really need to work on that. Your words are really just nonsense and nobody actually believes you. Really. Nobody believes that Trump is so hateful that he would just wish for some people to die because of their skin color. That is literally SO stupid I don't even know what level to put it on in my mind... Margaret Sanger literally said that blacks are weeds who need to be exterminated. That's Planned Parenthood's founder. Hillary praised her. I can't believe you would actually be so ignorant - but I think the reality is you just don't want to accept it. You guys think all Mexicans are poor and helpless based on the stereotypes you created, and therefore, they should just be able to hop over the fence without showing their ID, even if they are convicted murderers. I can't believe how dumb you guys really are.

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                                            @mhorndisk:

                                            You are literally trying to weave a story that Trump just wants these guys to die because they are black. That is the dumbest propaganda I've ever heard. You are promoting your beliefs as though they are facts. This is the stupidest shit on the internet right now. It's just really, really stupid. Your IQ must be like… 19. LOL wow you really need to work on that. Your words are really just nonsense and nobody actually believes you. Really. Nobody believes that Trump is so hateful that he would just wish for some people to die because of their skin color. That is literally SO stupid I don't even know what level to put it on in my mind... Margaret Sanger literally said that blacks are weeds who need to be exterminated. That's Planned Parenthood's founder. Hillary praised her. I can't believe you would actually be so ignorant - but I think the reality is you just don't want to accept it. You guys think all Mexicans are poor and helpless based on the stereotypes you created, and therefore, they should just be able to hop over the fence without showing their ID, even if they are convicted murderers. I can't believe how dumb you guys really are.

                                            I have to disagree with you this time.  This is FAR from the dumbest propaganda that the moonbats have come up with!

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