Organized crime (mafia) and Healthcare..
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Maybe we should force everyone to buy car insurance too. After all, it's not about need according to leftists.
Why does my anti abortion Christian uncle have to subsidize abortions? He's not against subsidizing preventatives like "the pill" and implants, but he is totally against paying for abortions. In fact, my dad's entire side of the family is like this.
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Same way you make other insurance affordable.. such as home, life, and auto.
So then you do agree! Everyone should have to buy insurance! The reason that the system works with home and auto insurance is that every home and auto (in most states) must be insured
Life insurance is a little different but the payouts are set to a fixed amount so it's fairly predictable as to how much will be paid out.
You keep talking about these astronomical prices but they don't really matter because nobody pays those prices. The insurers and providers negotiate rates that are MUCH lower.
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Maybe we should force everyone to buy car insurance too. After all, it's not about need according to leftists.
Why does my anti abortion Christian uncle have to subsidize abortions? He's not against subsidizing preventatives like "the pill" and implants, but he is totally against paying for abortions. In fact, my dad's entire side of the family is like this.
Because that's how insurance works. I have to subsidize a guy who drives his car 110 miles per hour for fun and for some asshole who builds his house in a flood zone.
Once again, you are making the case for single payer.
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Maybe we should force everyone to buy car insurance too. After all, it's not about need according to leftists.
Why does my anti abortion Christian uncle have to subsidize abortions? He's not against subsidizing preventatives like "the pill" and implants, but he is totally against paying for abortions. In fact, my dad's entire side of the family is like this.
Because that's how insurance works. I have to subsidize a guy who drives his car 110 miles per hour for fun and for some asshole who builds his house in a flood zone.
Once again, you are making the case for single payer.
You seem pleased that people who can't afford and don't want insurance are forced to pay for it. That is twisted!
As for the guy who drives his car fast and the asshole in a flood zone.. they pay MUCH higher insurance premiums. In healthcare.. everyone pays the same for the same coverage. Imagine paying the same insurance premiums as the auto maniac or floodzone guy!
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The Supreme Court has upheld that the Obamacare individual mandate is a tax, not insurance.
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The Supreme Court has upheld that the Obamacare individual mandate is a tax, not insurance.
I completely forgot about that! Thanks for the reminder!
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Maybe we should force everyone to buy car insurance too. After all, it's not about need according to leftists.
Why does my anti abortion Christian uncle have to subsidize abortions? He's not against subsidizing preventatives like "the pill" and implants, but he is totally against paying for abortions. In fact, my dad's entire side of the family is like this.
Because that's how insurance works. I have to subsidize a guy who drives his car 110 miles per hour for fun and for some asshole who builds his house in a flood zone.
Once again, you are making the case for single payer.
Are you saying we should have single payer for car insurance?
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You seem pleased that people who can't afford and don't want insurance are forced to pay for it. That is twisted!
It's those same people who Romney referred to as "freeloaders" who opt out of the system by not paying anything but then they use the emergency room anyway and force those costs onto YOU.
You seem pleased to pay for people who choose not to be responsible and buy their own health coverage. I'm tired of paying for freeloaders. Pay for your own care.
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You seem pleased that people who can't afford and don't want insurance are forced to pay for it. That is twisted!
It's those same people who Romney referred to as "freeloaders" who opt out of the system by not paying anything but then they use the emergency room anyway and force those costs onto YOU.
You seem pleased to pay for people who choose not to be responsible and buy their own health coverage. I'm tired of paying for freeloaders. Pay for your own care.
How are you paying for "freeloaders"? Are you saying that insurance companies are paying for healthcare given to people without insurance? Which insurance company is being billed for that?
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By "freeloaders", I think he means the illegals who always go to the ER every time they get the sniffles because they know they won't have to pay for it.
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By "freeloaders", I think he means the illegals who always go to the ER every time they get the sniffles because they know they won't have to pay for it.
Actually the freeloaders are people like Frederick who claim not to need insurance and shouldn't be forced to buy it. It's the very people who are against ObamaCare because the fact is they were very happy paying $0 into the system and getting substandard, inappropriate care for free.
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Adam, we want HSAs. We don't want Obamacare. That's it. It's simple.
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By "freeloaders", I think he means the illegals who always go to the ER every time they get the sniffles because they know they won't have to pay for it.
Actually the freeloaders are people like Frederick who claim not to need insurance and shouldn't be forced to buy it. It's the very people who are against ObamaCare because the fact is they were very happy paying $0 into the system and getting substandard, inappropriate care for free.
Oh, so you are advocating an NHS system where you end up with permanent nerve damage in both hands because the NHS (at the time) paid GPs not to refer patients to keep waiting times down.
Or to nearly kill people because GPs can't think out of the box.
Or that you MUST have private insurance so you can get an immediate appointment with a specialist. If you had to wait to see an NHS specialist, you'd be dead for about 6 months because your appointment.
Or that they wouldn't prescribe appropriate pain killers knowing that you are doing serious harm to yourself by using massive doses of OTC drugs in an attempt to get a tiny bit of pain relief.
Or a system where it's virtually impossible to sue for malpractice, even in the most blatant cases.
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Adam, we want HSAs. We don't want Obamacare. That's it. It's simple.
What good is an HSA if you don't know what anything costs?
Even if you did know what things cost I still don't see how an HSA is much good. Last year I had a gallbladder infection. I spent 15 days in the hospital. I have no idea what the bill was but it was certainly a lot more than I ever would have been able to save in an HSA. Even if I did have enough it would be totally depleted at this point and I would have to start over. What if I got sick again? My HSA has $0 in it!
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Oh, so you are advocating an NHS system where you end up with permanent nerve damage in both hands because the NHS (at the time) paid GPs not to refer patients to keep waiting times down.
Long wait times are a problem in the US too.
Or to nearly kill people because GPs can't think out of the box.
Doctors don't think at all here. They are only allowed to do what the insurers allow them to do.
Or that you MUST have private insurance so you can get an immediate appointment with a specialist. If you had to wait to see an NHS specialist, you'd be dead for about 6 months because your appointment.
My state makes this practice illegal.
Or that they wouldn't prescribe appropriate pain killers knowing that you are doing serious harm to yourself by using massive doses of OTC drugs in an attempt to get a tiny bit of pain relief.
The same problem exists in the US. We have a serious opioid problem caused in part by doctors prescribing too many pain killers.
Or a system where it's virtually impossible to sue for malpractice, even in the most blatant cases.
This is a conservative idea. The state of Texas recently put caps on malpractive lawsuits.
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When everyone has health cover for routine things, they (especially women) run to them every time they get the sniffles, of course waiting times are going to be extremely long. When people have to pay for their routine care, they aren't as eager to run to the GP for the sniffles.
GPs in the UK are like telemarketers, they have a script they have to stick to.
So your state wants it's citizens dead. Ok.
Prescription pain killer addiction isn't as big an issue in the UK, but they'd still rather you destroy your kidneys by taking too much OTC pain killers for a tiny bit of relief, than prescribe proper stuff.
In the UK, it was the Labour party (democrats) who put in the law making it virtually impossible to sue for even the most blatant malpractice.
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When everyone has health cover for routine things, they (especially women) run to them every time they get the sniffles, of course waiting times are going to be extremely long. When people have to pay for their routine care, they aren't as eager to run to the GP for the sniffles.
On the flip side of that if people wait to go to the doctor they may not go until they are really sick and it's too late to address their problem. There are other ways to deal with issues like that though. In the US there are programs that allow paramedics to make routine house calls. They can treat certain ailments and make a determination as to whether the patient actually needs to see a doctor.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/health/older-patients-community-paramedics.html
Payers are also allowing nurse practitioners, physician assistants and other mid level practitioners to see patients instead of seeing a doctor. The reason this isn't more common is because not all insurers allow it.
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When everyone has health cover for routine things, they (especially women) run to them every time they get the sniffles, of course waiting times are going to be extremely long. When people have to pay for their routine care, they aren't as eager to run to the GP for the sniffles.
On the flip side of that if people wait to go to the doctor they may not go until they are really sick and it's too late to address their problem. There are other ways to deal with issues like that though. In the US there are programs that allow paramedics to make routine house calls. They can treat certain ailments and make a determination as to whether the patient actually needs to see a doctor.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/health/older-patients-community-paramedics.html
Payers are also allowing nurse practitioners, physician assistants and other mid level practitioners to see patients instead of seeing a doctor. The reason this isn't more common is because not all insurers allow it.
It shouldn't be allowed. Far too often, someone is supposed to have a certain doctor as their physician.. but then when they go for an appointment, they get stuck with some other doctor that they never heard of, or some nurse practitioner. That should be illegal. You seem to think it's a great idea though. What a surprise.. yawn…
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Adam, the Social Security System and the Obamacare System are failing. We need to start investing in HSAs so we can have something when everything is gone. They were designed to fail. I put money all my life into Social Security but guess what? Politicians have put their dirty fingers into the honey pot and there won't be anything left when I want to use it. I don't want it anymore. I'm ok with letting all that go. I want an HSA that the government can't touch. Period. That's what I want, that's why I voted for Trump, I don't want no damn Obamacare. I had a friend who was a doctor who left the country just because of Obamacare three or four years ago. There is literally nothing you can say that will make me believe it is a good system. It has too many problems, it's a failing operation, and it was designed to be that way. He gave billions to his buddies to make a website that didn't even work, when it should have cost a few bucks. It's a scam. I will always believe that. It has nothing to do with confirmation bias, it just isn't logical.
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When everyone has health cover for routine things, they (especially women) run to them every time they get the sniffles, of course waiting times are going to be extremely long. When people have to pay for their routine care, they aren't as eager to run to the GP for the sniffles.
On the flip side of that if people wait to go to the doctor they may not go until they are really sick and it's too late to address their problem. There are other ways to deal with issues like that though. In the US there are programs that allow paramedics to make routine house calls. They can treat certain ailments and make a determination as to whether the patient actually needs to see a doctor.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/health/older-patients-community-paramedics.html
Payers are also allowing nurse practitioners, physician assistants and other mid level practitioners to see patients instead of seeing a doctor. The reason this isn't more common is because not all insurers allow it.
It shouldn't be allowed. Far too often, someone is supposed to have a certain doctor as their physician.. but then when they go for an appointment, they get stuck with some other doctor that they never heard of, or some nurse practitioner. That should be illegal. You seem to think it's a great idea though. What a surprise.. yawn…
That sounds like a customer service problem. When I make an appointment with my doctor I see my doctor. If I make an appointment with my nurse practitioner I see her instead. I know ahead of time who I am going to be seeing.
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