Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens
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GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.
So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…
I reported him to the moderator. Something needs to be done because that response was totally uncalled for.
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RoyalCrown89
Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.
Read the bit I bolded.
Now go back and read my previous comment again.
Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.
He still to this day wants them dead, knowing now that they have been exonerated. Once again, where is the evidence showing him walking back his recent (2015-2016) statements? He wants innocent men dead; and once again, that's indefensible.
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GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.
So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…
I reported him to the moderator. Something needs to be done because that response was totally uncalled for.
Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.
You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?
There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it. That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."
Oh, so a private citizen can't call for a state to get/use death penalty?
I see another case of liberals hating free speech.
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GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.
So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…
I reported him to the moderator. Something needs to be done because that response was totally uncalled for.
Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.
You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?
There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it. That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."
Oh, so a private citizen can't call for a state to get/use death penalty?
I see another case of liberals hating free speech.
I noticed that but I'll wait to see if any action is taken before I appeal to someone else. I said nothing to Mhorndisk for him to say that to me. Clearly, a warning is not enough at this point.
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What I find reprehensible is mhorndisk's defense of free speech while threatening to sue over criticism of the president. He really should move to some nice cozy authoritarian regime like Russia or Turkey. He will be much happier there, as long as he stays closeted.
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What I find reprehensible is mhorndisk's defense of free speech while threatening to sue over criticism of the president. He really should move to some nice cozy authoritarian regime like Russia or Turkey. He will be much happier there, as long as he stays closeted.
Funny, I thought the right was against frivolous litigation…
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GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.
I said earlier in this thread that we needed to pick our battles. This might be one worth fighting, as well as the statements that follow.
I do not claim to be familiar with the software that runs the Forum, so Raph, correct me if I am wrong. I have noticed a large number of Guests viewing this board. I would imagine that means they would have to visit before logging in or purposefully log out of the site before coming to the forum. Not only do they want to lurk, but they want to do so anonymously. Have they been intimidated from posting and even showing their face?
Also, after reviewing old posts here, it became clear that there were a lot more active participants until recently . Some of that may be attributed to pre-election and immediate post-election fervor, which clearly has died down, but I wonder if we are doing everything we can to promote participation by a broad spectrum of members.
As a case in point, last night at about 1 AM there was me and 22 guests viewing the board. -
outraged over the $41 million settlement handed over
$41 million for all 5 of the defendants equals 8.2 million per person. As each defendant served about 8 years, that's equivalent to:
$1 million per year, or
$2740 per day, or
$114 dollars for every hour they were locked up.If someone wanted to force you to live in a prison cell from which you couldn't physically leave, how much money might you charge them per hour to do it? Does not $100 per/hr seem reasonable?
Let's suppose that Charles Kushner, the father of Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, was exonerated by DNA evidence of committing the crimes he spent time in federal prison for, and the goverment wanted to settle with him out of court. Is there anyone here who believes a person like Kushner would agree to accept only $100 an hour as compensation for their jail time? I think not.
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RoyalCrown89
Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.
Read the bit I bolded.
Now go back and read my previous comment again.
Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.
He still to this day wants them dead, knowing now that they have been exonerated. Once again, where is the evidence showing him walking back his recent (2015-2016) statements? He wants innocent men dead; and once again, that's indefensible.
Not my argument.
Re-read what I said.
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Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.
I don't read every post. Never have, never will.
Unless, Joker wants to pay me. :cool2:
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Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.
I don't read every post. Never have, never will.
Unless, Joker wants to pay me. :cool2:
raphjd, thoughtful people read the posts around their own remarks, so they can make the most impactful contributions, and I believe you are thoughtful in this manner.
So, I find the claim that you didn't take initial note of the offensive post in this thread – right above yours, with objectionable content IN CAPS -- very hard to reconcile. Instead, the post was allowed to linger, although it was pointed out by others further down the page, as well.
(At least the very overdue Mute was finally, finally handed out, cheers.)
Imho, the ability to "not see" these offensive posts -- and the common, extended waiting periods for corrective actions -- put the Board in a bad light. These are ongoing issues that diminish the likelihood of a rebound in active posters here in Politics & Debate.
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GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.
I said earlier in this thread that we needed to pick our battles. This might be one worth fighting, as well as the statements that follow.
Looks like a win for those who want decency on this board :cheers:
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RoyalCrown89
Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.
Read the bit I bolded.
Now go back and read my previous comment again.
Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.
He still to this day wants them dead, knowing now that they have been exonerated. Once again, where is the evidence showing him walking back his recent (2015-2016) statements? He wants innocent men dead; and once again, that's indefensible.
Not my argument.
Re-read what I said.
I understand that you are defending his right to call for their deaths prior to them being exonerated. I never said EVERYONE should condemn him for holding that belief because the five did initially confess. I said that I personally hold him responsible for his words before AND after, but that I understood those who defend him for his words prior to the five men being exonerated. All I'm simply saying is that his words and actions AFTER the five were exonerated are indefensible. Thank you for at least remaining civil with me.
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I agree with you on AFTER, which is why I won't argue that point.
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I'm glad the Central Park Five were able to receive some compensation from NYC, however, it won't make up for their years of wrongful imprisonment.
#45, even after the men were exonerated, still presumes they are guilty even with no evidence, just assumptions. His supporters on this board are quick to come to his defense, yet provide no factual evidence, just their own assumptions (and possibly racial prejudices).
To deny their fact of exoneration is the same as denying Obama's birth certificate which, ironically, #45 accepts.
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I'm glad the Central Park Five were able to receive some compensation from NYC, however, it won't make up for their years of wrongful imprisonment.
#45, even after the men were exonerated, still presumes they are guilty even with no evidence, just assumptions. His supporters on this board are quick to come to his defense, yet provide no factual evidence, just their own assumptions (and possibly racial prejudices).
To deny their fact of exoneration is the same as denying Obama's birth certificate which, ironically, #45 accepts.
And that's one of the reasons why I made the thread, to show his pattern. He used the racist Obama birth certificate mess to help build his base of voters for years and now he's abandoned it because he doesn't need it anymore. Meanwhile, his supporters still believe–-without a shred of evidence---that President Obama was not born in America and that he is a Muslim. If #45 has some evidence to back up his statements about the Central Park Five AFTER they were exonerated, then he should provide it. Otherwise, he looks like a disgusting vile racist calling for the deaths of five exonerated black men who lost years of their lives for something they did not do.
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Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.
I don't read every post. Never have, never will.
Unless, Joker wants to pay me. :cool2:
;D
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This recent situation of our president endorsing the KKK and other white supremacist groups put this thread directly into context, now doesn't it? This is why our bigoted president still to this day calls for the deaths of 5 innocent black men who have been exonerated of any wrongdoing. It also proves that it's not just Steve Bannon and others who pushed the president towards embracing white supremacists; he's been a white supremacists and has argued for the deaths of innocent black men far before he ran for president.
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By "endorsing" you mean he didn't blame every tiny bit of violence on them. That he also blamed the left for their part in the violence.
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By "endorsing" you mean he didn't blame every tiny bit of violence on them. That he also blamed the left for their part in the violence.
"Also" my foot. He claimed there were good people on both sides. There are no good white supremacists or KKK members, never have been and never will be. He endorsed white supremacy on LIVE TV Tuesday and has been endorsing white nationalism since before he ran for president. It wasn't both sides that ran over and murdered a woman, only one side did that. And please, spare us all the deflection of bringing up BLM and other irrelevant topics to this discussion because BLM didn't run that woman over either. A white supremacist did. And he did it in the name of our president just like David Duke and the rest of the white supremacists marched in the name of this president. The time for deflection has run out and the reality is sinking in, which is why Bannon has now been kicked out of the White House.
This recent horrific situation and the president's approval of it directly ties in with him still to this day wanting five innocent black men DEAD.
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