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    Praising Your Leaders Versus Trolling Your Opponents

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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator
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      Yeah, that's the fake CNN thing.  If you watched the video, it's clearly staged and you can see the reporter directing people where to stand.

      Ok, so Manchester has some good muslims.  What about all the other terrorist attacks by their own that they ignored?

      Ok, I'll play.  Lemon and Sanders are ignorant of the law.  Political affiliation is also grounds for a hate crime.  They attacked a white person, to get back at white people for voting for Trump.    The criminals repeatedly said "fuck white people" and "fuck trump".

      Of course, you don't consider anything done by the leftist media to be bad.

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        According to Snopes. CNN arranged the protesters behind their reporter to provide a backdrop for the piece, but the protesters were already in the area.  So I guess it was staged, but not fake.

        I said I didn't agree with Lemon or Sanders on this point.  You want me to condemn the entire network because of it?
        They were clearly discussing the news, not reporting it.  There were other panelists offering different views.  What more do you want?  Censorship?

        I never said the media was faultless.  They are liberal-biased, mostly in the stories they choose to highlight.  But of what they cover, they are accurate.  When they are not, they issue a correction.

        That is more I can say of the internet and internet sites.  How can you be so willing to accept something as true just because it does not originate in the mainstream media?

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          As we are discussing in the other thread, they purposedly edited the video to have the girl call for peace and calm.  They only "fixed" it was they were busted all over the internet and Fox News.

          I will accept the full video over some edited bullshit or anything from CNN.  There are some excellent videos on YouTube that list the lies and other problems.

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            How can you know if it is the full video if it is cleverly edited?

            Most corrections, whether by the networks or newspapers come after someone "busts" them.  I think most occur without malice or bias.  When it does, heads roll.

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            • raphjdR Offline
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              It was a blatant lie by CNN to fit their narrative.

              She DID NOT call for calm and peace.  She called for blacks to burn down the suburbs.

              CNN knew this because they later posted their own "full" copy of the event.

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                @raphjd:

                It was a blatant lie by CNN to fit their narrative.

                She DID NOT call for calm and peace.  She called for blacks to burn down the suburbs.

                CNN knew this because they later posted their own "full" copy of the event.

                You assign a motive to the mistake because it fits your narrative.  It may have been maliciously edited, or it may have been carelessly edited for time.

                My point is if a YouTube user "BlacksforPeace" posted the edited video, how would know it had been edited? The media brings such things to light.  I don't use YouTube much, but are confident that a deceptively edited video will be exposed by another YouTube user and posted in the comments so you can easily find it?

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                • royalcrown89R Offline
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                  I agree 100% with the OP. The conservatives (and anti-liberals) either do not know how to defend their arguments/positions or are solely on here to troll liberals. I do not know which; hence, why I'm here asking now. I have defended my arguments/positions with sound logic without constant name-calling or other childish means. I have many times called out the problems–-often times dangerous---within the liberal communities. Where is it on the other side? Where is the self-criticism of the other side on here? It's extremely rare for some of you to (a) criticize the president and (b) criticize the actions of those on the right just as rare as it is for you to defend the president and the actions of those on the right. Do you truly believe what you say or are you only saying it to be a troll? One of the objectives in my call for more civility was to stop assuming bad intentions on the behalf of those you disagree with; therefore, the fact that I am indeed asking what your intentions are is proof that I am truly trying to get to the crux of this problem. I am not assuming the worst, I am asking why is there a lack of effort on the other side to defend their beliefs without constant name-calling and childishness and without deflecting to the problems of the other side.

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                  • raphjdR Offline
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                    @pppucci:

                    @raphjd:

                    It was a blatant lie by CNN to fit their narrative.

                    She DID NOT call for calm and peace.  She called for blacks to burn down the suburbs.

                    CNN knew this because they later posted their own "full" copy of the event.

                    You assign a motive to the mistake because it fits your narrative.  It may have been maliciously edited, or it may have been carelessly edited for time.

                    My point is if a YouTube user "BlacksforPeace" posted the edited video, how would know it had been edited? The media brings such things to light.  I don't use YouTube much, but are confident that a deceptively edited video will be exposed by another YouTube user and posted in the comments so you can easily find it?

                    Do you seriously believe that CNN edited out "take that shit to the suburbs and burn their shit down" by accident?    Or do you think they edited it out so they could claim she was calling for peace?

                    YouTube is extremely good at self cleaning/correcting.

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                      @royalcrown89:

                      I agree 100% with the OP. The conservatives (and anti-liberals) either do not know how to defend their arguments/positions or are solely on here to troll liberals. I do not know which; hence, why I'm here asking now. I have defended my arguments/positions with sound logic without constant name-calling or other childish means. I have many times called out the problems–-often times dangerous---within the liberal communities. Where is it on the other side? Where is the self-criticism of the other side on here? It's extremely rare for some of you to (a) criticize the president and (b) criticize the actions of those on the right just as rare as it is for you to defend the president and the actions of those on the right. Do you truly believe what you say or are you only saying it to be a troll? One of the objectives in my call for more civility was to stop assuming bad intentions on the behalf of those you disagree with; therefore, the fact that I am indeed asking what your intentions are is proof that I am truly trying to get to the crux of this problem. I am not assuming the worst, I am asking why is there a lack of effort on the other side to defend their beliefs without constant name-calling and childishness and without deflecting to the problems of the other side.

                      What you call "deflecting to the problems of the other side", I call pointing out liberal hypocrisy.

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                        strangeloop
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                        @raphjd:

                        @pppucci:

                        @raphjd:

                        It was a blatant lie by CNN to fit their narrative.

                        She DID NOT call for calm and peace.  She called for blacks to burn down the suburbs.

                        CNN knew this because they later posted their own "full" copy of the event.

                        You assign a motive to the mistake because it fits your narrative.  It may have been maliciously edited, or it may have been carelessly edited for time.

                        My point is if a YouTube user "BlacksforPeace" posted the edited video, how would know it had been edited? The media brings such things to light.  I don't use YouTube much, but are confident that a deceptively edited video will be exposed by another YouTube user and posted in the comments so you can easily find it?

                        Do you seriously believe that CNN edited out "take that shit to the suburbs and burn their shit down" by accident?     Or do you think they edited it out so they could claim she was calling for peace?

                        YouTube is extremely good at self cleaning/correcting.

                        To be fair, it's probably easy to thoroughly invert the facts and accept the New Truth when you are a Cultist and a True Believer.

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