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    NBC: Man attacked by six liberals during a political rally in Philadelphia

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      Devken
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      @raphjd:

      Why don't we ever see peaceful protests by the left?

      Yeah, like those goddamn pride marches, they always end up in violent clashes…

      ...

      wait for it...

      ...

      in Russia and Turkey.

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        sutieday
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        @raphjd:

        All over social media, you will see liberals defending "punch a Nazi".   When you ask them to clarify, they tell you a Nazi is anyone you disagree with.

        1. These "people" could be trolls or bots. And just because someone hold an opinion online doesn't me they would share it irl.

        2. You can be on the left, but not be a liberal. You'd just be called a "leftist".

        Lastly, it is pretty asinine to use comments made by individuals online to smear a whole group of people just to further your own agenda.

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          flozen
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          @raphjd:

          All over social media, you will see liberals defending "punch a Nazi".   When you ask them to clarify, they tell you a Nazi is anyone you disagree with.

          And all over the Internet – from the Dark Web to carefully guarded email lists -- there are invites to gatherings where they discuss assaulting minorities, and in some corners, drive around in pick-up trucks with white robes.  Or sometimes, use torches to menace workers taking down shameful Confederate monuments:

          http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/14/torch-wielding-group-protests-confederate-statue-r/

          You think either side has a monopoly on this behavior?

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            pppucci
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            Raphjd keeps pointing out that fascism had its origin in the far left, which is at least partially true. Does that make antifa a rightist movement since it is anti-far left?  Maybe that explains their violent tendencies.

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              raphjd Forum Administrator
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              Who defends free speech?  conservatives

              Who hates free speech?  liberals

              BTW, "punch a Nazi in the face" was a chant from the peaceful left.

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                sutieday
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                @raphjd:

                Who defends free speech?  conservatives

                Who hates free speech?  liberals

                BTW, "punch a Nazi in the face" was a chant from the peaceful left.

                Such blanket asinine claims without any strong evidence. I don't think we can get any where with raphjd as his unconscious anti-liberal bias is astounding.

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                  flozen
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                  @sutieday:

                  Such blanket asinine claims without any strong evidence. I don't think we can get any where with raphjd as his unconscious anti-liberal bias is astounding.

                  "Unconscious?"  You are a kind person.   👼

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                    flozen
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                    @Devken:

                    Yeah, like those goddamn pride marches, they always end up in violent clashes…

                    ...

                    wait for it...

                    ...

                    in Russia and Turkey.

                    I love a good "wait for it…", Devken, and that's a hard one to beat.  Indisputable, global examples of gays affected by violence, courtesy of fascistic conservatives and religious zealots.

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                      pppucci
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                      I know this will sound cruel, but there is something weird about the photo of the victim in this case.  The blood pattern on his chest does not correlate with a wound on the top of the scalp. Unless he was shirtless when he was attacked, what is all that blood doing on his chest anyway.  An ER nurse or physician would never allow him to bleed that way after removing his shirt, especially in Philadelphia which has some of the best hospitals in the world.  The story was carried by only one network and one secondary newspaper and then picked up by the conservative outlets.  I am not calling it a hoax, but something smells fishy.  I am waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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                        raphjd Forum Administrator
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                        @Devken:

                        @raphjd:

                        Why don't we ever see peaceful protests by the left?

                        Yeah, like those goddamn pride marches, they always end up in violent clashes…

                        ...

                        wait for it...

                        ...

                        in Russia and Turkey.

                        Turkey is a "religion of peace" nation.    You know, those loving people you want to come to the west.

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                          sutieday
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                          @raphjd:

                          @Devken:

                          @raphjd:

                          Why don't we ever see peaceful protests by the left?

                          Yeah, like those goddamn pride marches, they always end up in violent clashes…

                          ...

                          wait for it...

                          ...

                          in Russia and Turkey.

                          Turkey is a "religion of peace" nation.    You know, those loving people you want to come to the west.

                          I take it you cannot defend your asinine statement?

                          @raphjd:

                          Why don't we ever see peaceful protests by the left?

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                            Devken
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                            @raphjd:

                            Turkey is a "religion of peace" nation.    You know, those loving people you want to come to the west.

                            Fuck that noise… keep your baseless accusations to yourself. I am an atheist at best, an agnost at worst, because I've seen and heard, first-hand, what religious intolerance can do, and yes, that means Islam.

                            So I'll be waiting for your apology.

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                              sutieday
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                              @raphjd:

                              @Devken:

                              @raphjd:

                              Why don't we ever see peaceful protests by the left?

                              Yeah, like those goddamn pride marches, they always end up in violent clashes…

                              ...

                              wait for it...

                              ...

                              in Russia and Turkey.

                              Turkey is a "religion of peace" nation.    You know, those loving people you want to come to the west.

                              I do want to also point out the irony of conservatives "defending free speech" when you attack people of a specific religion on a regular basis. Even when a post/topic has nothing to do with Islam, your hatred of the faith is astounding.

                              @raphjd:

                              Who defends free speech?  conservatives

                              Who hates free speech?  liberals

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                                raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                Free speech is not the same as terrorism, throwing gays from the roof tops and all the other things your beloved muslims love to do.

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                                  pppucci
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                                  Devken and sutieday, I think you are both offended for different reasons.  Pretty sure raphjd's comment was sarcastic, so sutieday, you are justly offended because he is implying all muslim immigrants are terrorists, and Devken, I don't think he was defending Turkey as a religion of peace.  I personally would like him to back up a blanket statement like all liberal protests end in violence–without bringing up the Berkley riot or the mad Stanford bike-lock slasher.

                                  BTW, I have searched the Philadelphia police blotters and can find no record of arrests for the bloody attack pictured in the OP.  I did find his twitter feed, however, and it looks like he may have been shirtless when attacked.  So I owe him the benefit of the doubt.  It should be noted that he is best known in Philadelphia for interrupting Christmas Mass in the cathedral screaming that Pizzagate was real and had to be investigated.  Now he has traded in his "Trump 2020" sign for one promoting a silent vigil for Seth Rich.  So it wouldn't surprise me if he shares culpability in starting the fight.

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                                    pppucci
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                                    @raphjd:

                                    Free speech is not the same as terrorism, throwing gays from the roof tops and all the other things your beloved muslims love to do.

                                    But not all of islam supports terrorism or even Sharia law.  There is a faction (and it may be a large one, but certainly not the majority) who use the religion to back up their hate of the West and gays, etc.  It is not the religion per se that is the issue, it is the underlying hatred. 
                                    But what really amazes me is how often you chastise us for making generalizations about conservatives and the right, but so easily and confidently paint the left with a broad brush.

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                                      flozen
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                                      @raphjd:

                                      Free speech is not the same as terrorism, throwing gays from the roof tops and all the other things your beloved muslims love to do.

                                      And the lowest, most pitiable form of free speech is targeted ethnic or religious hate speech that is willfully blind to the fact that good and bad people exist in all faiths.  Regards from an out and proud secular humanist.

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                                        sutieday
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                                        I still have no idea why a topic about a man attacked by "liberals" turned into a discussion about Islam…

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                                          flozen
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                                          @sutieday:

                                          I still have no idea why a topic about a man attacked by "liberals" turned into a discussion about Islam…

                                          Good call, sutieday.  There are a substantial number of threads on P&D that begin on a variety of nonreligious topics, but are steered toward Islamophobia by the same member, with the same roof analogy, and in retrospect, I regret furthering this hijacking of the thread.

                                          This thread is about the Philadelphia incident, and while I can see it being vibrantly discussed in relation to other political protests in the U.S., I've had enough of these 90-degree topic turns to specific faith-bashing here in the P&D forum.  There's a forum for Religion & Philosophy, if they will allow that poster to continually projectile vomit in that ugly direction.

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                                          • raphjdR Offline
                                            raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                            Liberals' love of muslims is a political issue.

                                            Also, I need to point out that it was a liberal who pointed out how Turkey treated LGBTs.    I just reminded him that Turkey is a "religion of peace" nation.

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