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    US denies visas to gay Russians fleeing Chechnya

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    • K Offline
      KITSUNECHAN
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      @rtim:

      i don't place trump on this one,  under Obama, the US put a lot of sanctions on Russia and they hurt the ones living there in more ways then one, people who live in a country with sanctions will have a harder time getting visas then someone from a country without sanctions.

      currently trump is trying to remove most if not all the sanctions on Russia but in situation like this, there not going removed in time for the people of chechnya  :cry2:

      The sanctions were placed because Russia invaded Ukraine.

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      • F Offline
        faye6688
        last edited by

        it is not right for the Russin GV to do this hurt to the poor people

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        • I Offline
          issteven
          last edited by

          Trump is trash. We been knew.

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            sutieday
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            @raphjd:

            In the UK under Labour (liberals) they told gay refugees to stop being gay and sent them back.

            (((Deflection))) Avoid talking about an issue by bringing up another issue.

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              zs147
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              Chechnya is autonomous to Russia. Also, one of Putin's top advisers is openly gay. So, saying "Trump is going to turn the names over to the Russian government" and implying the Russian government is going to kill/maim these people, is an outright lie.

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                raphjd Forum Administrator
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                @sutieday:

                @raphjd:

                In the UK under Labour (liberals) they told gay refugees to stop being gay and sent them back.

                (((Deflection))) Avoid talking about an issue by bringing up another issue.

                NOPE.

                Just because it makes liberals look like hypocrites, doesn't mean it's deflection.

                We're talking; apples vs apples here.

                It's like how liberals get butt hurt when Obama is brought up, unless it suits your narrative.

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                  Devken
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                  NOPE.

                  Just because it makes liberals look like hypocrites, doesn't mean it's deflection.

                  We're talking; apples vs apples here.

                  It's like how liberals get butt hurt when Obama is brought up, unless it suits your narrative.

                  Comparing the british system with the american system is comparing apples to oranges, a false equivalence if thefe ever was one. Labour and tories have different views regarding a host of social issues,  views that differ greatly from the American democrats a d republicans. For one, the religious angle is completely lost on the British system, while it is a dominant element in American politics.

                  But why talk about the british and their politicians in a thread about the USA and chechnya? Last time I checked the UK is not the USA and neither is it Chechnya

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                  • raphjdR Offline
                    raphjd Forum Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Liberals are liberals, even if they aren't in the same country.

                    It's extremely telling that you guys don't want to talk about a liberal government telling gays to stop being gay and sending them back, but you are happy to slag off a conservative government doing it.

                    Can we say "echo chamber"?

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                      galahato
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                      The persecution of gays in Chechnya really depresses me. This is why voting is so critical. I am sending my love, prayers, thoughts and wishes for a better life for all LGBT in Chechnya. There but before the grace of God go I.

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                        raphjd Forum Administrator
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                        @sutieday:

                        @raphjd:

                        In the UK under Labour (liberals) they told gay refugees to stop being gay and sent them back.

                        (((Deflection))) Avoid talking about an issue by bringing up another issue.

                        To paraphrase;

                        "stop talking about liberals doing the same thing we're crying about"

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