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    Why won’t Donald Trump rush to tweet criticism of attacks against Muslims?

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      sutieday
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      @raphjd:

      @sutieday:

      Btw, those people downvoting are essentially saying it is acceptable to attack Muslims and not have the President respond in a timely manner to such acts.

      You are a typical bike lock liberal, with your blatant hypocrisy.

      You spam the fuck out of the down vote button against your enemies no matter what they say.   You don't care what is said, you look for the name of the poster.

      I never knew that disagreeing with a poster implied that you would want to hit them with a bike lock ???

      And I know why you and Frederick have yet to respond to the initial post. Both of you have no problem with Muslims being attacked by bigoted/hateful people because you think they're all terrorists. And you probably support actions by racist white supremacist stabbers, such as this:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/05/28/brave-and-selfless-oregon-stabbing-victims-hailed-as-heroes/

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        wrestling82
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        No Sutie, people downvote you the same reason they downvote others. We are sick of your whining hypocrisy.

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          Matie
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          Well, the boot could be on the other foot. Whenever the religion of pieces attacks the west or western targets, we are told 'not all Muslims'. I think on the whole westerners have shown remarkable restraint in not resorting to mob violence or tit for tat attacks. Is this the typical tu quoque argument, in that we find some outrage performed by non-muslims to justify islamic terrorism? There is no doubt that Islam exhibits cult like characteristics, and this is not just in regard to those commonly considered extremist.

          But attacks on unarmed civilians are certainly deplorable. Whatever problems I may have with islamic ideology, I certainly condemn indiscriminate attacks on ordinary Muslims. I don't hate Muslims as individuals, nor do I hate the religion as such. I do have definite problems with fundamental aspects of the faith, and these extend beyond what is generally labelled 'extremist', and I feel that I do so totally justifiably.

          I have no responsibility to defend Trump in any way shape or form and I disavow such.

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            raphjd Forum Administrator
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            Well, the boot could be on the other foot. Whenever the religion of pieces attacks the west or western targets, we are told 'not all Muslims'.

            Bike lock liberals claim muslim terrorists have nothing to do with islam.  It's the same when liberals do bad.  They aren't part of the group, they are individuals.

            If a conservative does something wrong, it's all conservatives.

            BTW, try reading the quran before claiming it's the religion of peace.

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              Matie
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              BTW, I don't claim that Islam is a religion of peace. Actually that is a fundamental misunderstanding. I believe it means more correctly, 'submission'. Rather, Islam is (and always has been) a religion of 'pacification', that is, you can be treated 'peacefully' once you submit (become a Muslim) and become an adherent of Islam (submission). Or accept dhimmi status (only open to 'peoples of the book', and never gays)

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                Matie
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                I mean, 'religion of peace' is a fundamental misunderstanding of the Arabic word, 'Islam'.

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                  raphjd Forum Administrator
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                  @Matie:

                  BTW, I don't claim that Islam is a religion of peace. Actually that is a fundamental misunderstanding. I believe it means more correctly, 'submission'. Rather, Islam is (and always has been) a religion of 'pacification', that is, you can be treated 'peacefully' once you submit (become a Muslim) and become an adherent of Islam (submission). Or accept dhimmi status (only open to 'peoples of the book', and never gays)

                  I wasn't really directing anything at you.  I just continued on from your statement that I quoted.

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                    Matie
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                    Makes sense

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                      strangeloop
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                      @sutieday:

                      Btw, those people downvoting are essentially saying it is acceptable to attack Muslims and not have the President respond in a timely manner to such acts.

                      Why should Trump respond?  It didn't even happen in the U.S.  I mean, did Obama respond when North Korea kidnapped an American college student?  Apparently not, since he's dead I guess.

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                        raphjd Forum Administrator
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                        @sutieday:

                        @raphjd:

                        @sutieday:

                        Btw, those people downvoting are essentially saying it is acceptable to attack Muslims and not have the President respond in a timely manner to such acts.

                        You are a typical bike lock liberal, with your blatant hypocrisy.

                        You spam the fuck out of the down vote button against your enemies no matter what they say.   You don't care what is said, you look for the name of the poster.

                        I never knew that disagreeing with a poster implied that you would want to hit them with a bike lock ???

                        And I know why you and Frederick have yet to respond to the initial post. Both of you have no problem with Muslims being attacked by bigoted/hateful people because you think they're all terrorists. And you probably support actions by racist white supremacist stabbers, such as this:

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/05/28/brave-and-selfless-oregon-stabbing-victims-hailed-as-heroes/

                        For ages I have asked liberals to condemn the violence and it took ages but finally 6 or so stepped forward to condemn it.    You weren't one of them.  Not surprisingly, the liberals who condemned the violence got as many down votes as conservatives do.    I'm betting it was you, DrWas, wafflez and a couple others.

                        In 23 days, peaceful, loving muslims have killed 1,246 people in "peace attacks".  And we now have another, thankfully thwarted, "peace attack" in Brussels.

                        Was it you or your fellow bike lock liberal DrWas who said you don't have to condemn violence because you aren't the President?

                        The fact that you search out posts by your enemies to down vote them, no matter what they say, shows the mentality you have.    At least RoyalCrown89  has the decency to actually read the posts and vote on them based on what is posted.

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                          pppucci
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                          None of us here are the President. And while he does not need to comment on every event in the world, he has been quick to condemn attacks that are perpetrated by radical islamists, usually within hours of the events, even before they are linked to terrorism.  He takes the occasion to justify his travel ban.  He seems uninterested in any events that don't support his agenda and overall world-view.
                          That was the point of the OP, and no ad hominem attacks can change the underlying facts.

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                            sutieday
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                            @pppucci:

                            None of us here are the President. And while he does not need to comment on every event in the world, he has been quick to condemn attacks that are perpetrated by radical islamists, usually within hours of the events, even before they are linked to terrorism.  He takes the occasion to justify his travel ban.  He seems uninterested in any events that don't support his agenda and overall world-view.
                            That was the point of the OP, and no ad hominem attacks can change the underlying facts.

                            I agree. And I think that it is really ironic that many of the countries on Trump's travel ban have been bombed by the U.S. and now their people won't be able to seek refuge in the U.S.

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                              jazuko
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                              #notallAnglos
                              british people are a people of peace
                              one british person doesnt represent every British person
                              he was not even a real British person
                              we cant really know the motives of this British person 
                              stop being mean to british people or youll radicalize more Brits
                              stop the Anglophobia

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                                raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                I agree. And I think that it is really ironic that many of the countries on Trump's travel ban have been bombed by the U.S. and now their people won't be able to seek refuge in the U.S.

                                It was your lord and saviour who bombed them.  Are you saying he did it without a valid reason?!

                                You need to decide, was Obama wrong to do it or not.

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                                  mhorndisk
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                                  To honestly answer your question. Because Islam sucks. It's full of lies and stupid. That's why Trump won't do it. They throw gays off of buildings, behead them, and they throw rocks at women who drive, and you think they are like Disney's Aladdin. That's why. Because Islam is a sick and twisted "religion" full of idiots who support some stupid fake god called Allah, the moon god. And they're delusional. I don't care if this offends you. That's the reason. We are not going to have Sharia in America, and if you don't like it, you can fuck off. Ok? There. Islam sucks and if you wanna sit here and promote it, then just go live there. For a few minutes of course. Anything else?

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                                    pppucci
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                                    @jazuko:

                                    #notallAnglos
                                    british people are a people of peace
                                    one british person doesnt represent every British person
                                    he was not even a real British person
                                    we cant really know the motives of this British person 
                                    stop being mean to british people or youll radicalize more Brits
                                    stop the Anglophobia

                                    The point of the OP is that Trump does not call out attacks made against Muslims.  It had nothing to do with Anglophobia.  You say however he was "not even a real British person."  Since when did Wales secede from the UK??

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                                      mhorndisk
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                                      And Allah is a big fat FAKE. He is NOT God. He is NOTHING. He NEVER existed. He's a big fat LIE. PERIOD. THAT is why Trump doesn't care if Muslims kill themselves, because he can't change the fact that they are just fucking dumb and are a cancer out to suicide themselves into non-existence. They will not survive the coming Order of the World.

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                                        mhorndisk
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                                        Muslims believe lies like little children. There is no fucking Allah. FUCK ALLAH. He doesn't exist. They're just a bunch of pieces of garbage who just want to control women and kill gays and put everyone into slavery and rule the world like everyone else. They are cockroaches, like every other religious fanatic. We have no place for this human garbage in our society any more. And you libtards are trying to act like we don't care about them. Fine. You're right. We don't fucking care about them. Not even a little tiny bit. They're idiots and they murder people for fun. This is all of Islam, not just the extremist ones. It's a nasty cult that needs to be forgotten and eradicated.

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                                          mhorndisk
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                                          They are literally throwing gay people off of buildings and you want to point the finger at Trump? You are insane! Period. That is quite literally the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life. Acting like this is Disney's Aladdin. You are something else Sutie day. Take that crazy garbage and sell it somewhere else. It's NOT working anymore. That's why you guys keep losing elections.

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                                            sutieday
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                                            @mhorndisk:

                                            Muslims believe lies like little children. There is no fucking Allah. FUCK ALLAH. He doesn't exist. They're just a bunch of pieces of garbage who just want to control women and kill gays and put everyone into slavery and rule the world like everyone else. They are cockroaches, like every other religious fanatic. We have no place for this human garbage in our society any more. And you libtards are trying to act like we don't care about them. Fine. You're right. We don't fucking care about them. Not even a little tiny bit. They're idiots and they murder people for fun. This is all of Islam, not just the extremist ones. It's a nasty cult that needs to be forgotten and eradicated.

                                            So hateful!

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