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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator
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      Actually, I think his reply was spot on.  You justified a muslim country doing it because a terrorist group does it.

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        @raphjd:

        Actually, I think his reply was spot on.   You justified a muslim country doing it because a terrorist group does it.

        A Muslim country? You guys were referring to all of Islam.

        If I need to be more on the nose, then my point is: there are very likely people of Muslim faith that want to migrate here to escape the people you keep equating them to. And if you want to judge every group by its worst, extremist outliers, then don't just cherry pick the groups Breitbart or whatever news organization is fully profiting from telling you. Be consistent with your philosophies.

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          You justified Pakistan doing it because a terrorist group does it and you don't get why that's a problem.

          Come on, your news outlet still pretends that Talcum X is actually black despite absolute proof he's as much a honkey as I am.

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            @raphjd:

            You justified Pakistan doing it because a terrorist group does it and you don't get why that's a problem.

            Come on, your news outlet still pretends that Talcum X is actually black despite absolute proof he's as much a honkey as I am.

            I don't know how much more specific I can be. It honestly feels like you're intentionally misunderstanding what I'm saying.

            Their acts of violence are not justified. Terrorist groups are not justified. I specifically said there are Muslim people that come to this country to escape terrorist groups. Which directly contradicts your notion that if someone is of that particular religion, they're assumed to be in alliance with terrorist groups. To which I say: if you're comfortable making that generalization, do it for everyone. Show your forced outrage for anyone Catholic, because if several ministries cover up child sexual assault, well then every Catholic must be molesting children. At the risk of sounding like a feminist cuck, insist that if 85% of violent crimes in the US are caused by men, let's only allow female immigrants.

            To be crystal clear, and before you take these points out of context: I don't actually subscribe to this line of logic. This is your belief that I'm criticizing.

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              This is exactly what Trump wants to do.  He is already looking at changing the federal libel laws (which don't exist) in order to make it illegal for reporters to say bad things about him.

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                SO, muslims are coming to the west to "escape" sharia.

                Now explain why muslims in Texas got extremely butt hurt when Texas passed a law banning the use of non US/Texas laws.  If they are escaping the laws of their homeland, they why would they care if Texas bans the use of their homeland's laws in Texas.

                If you weren't justifying it, then why did yo do the "but these people do it too".

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                  @raphjd:

                  SO, muslims are coming to the west to "escape" sharia.

                  Now explain why muslims in Texas got extremely butt hurt when Texas passed a law banning the use of non US/Texas laws.   If they are escaping the laws of their homeland, they why would they care if Texas bans the use of their homeland's laws in Texas.

                  If you weren't justifying it, then why did yo do the "but these people do it too".

                  I didn't mention sharia. But since you brought it up, I looked it up, since I haven't heard about this story. Here's the first article I found about it:

                  http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/shariatexas.asp

                  _An Islamic tribunal does operate in the Dallas area, and has done so for several years. But the imams that run the panel do not usurp state or federal law. What exists is a forum where Islamic scholars help settle business disputes and other non-criminal matters. The rulings are nonbinding and work within the guidelines of U.S. law.

                  This is explicitly stated on the tribunal’s website: “These proceedings must be conducted in accordance with the law of the land; local, state and federal within the United States.”

                  Similar religious mediation services exist throughout the U.S. — for Christians, Jews and other devout worshipers — as a way to avoid heading to a civil court. These panels prevent private matters from turning into expensive, public affairs._

                  Is this what you're referring to? If so, the answer to your question "why would they care?" I would assume is that other faiths have been allowed the same exact right to a tribunal. And we could go back and forth about whether Texas lawmakers even gave a shit about this until bullshit sensationalist news outlets started calling these tribunals "Sharia courts" so they could capitalize from a recipe of fear + ad revenue.

                  But the real point is: the people I spoke about escaping their homeland are not escaping because they were denied the right to a divorce tribunal. It's probably something closer to not wanting their children used as human shields. And you know this.

                  I'll repeat for an eighth time. My point was: every group of people has extremist pieces of shit that do really shitty things that no one condones. It would be silly to define every group by its worst. And you don't do that. At least, for the groups you identify with or feel like are a part of your "team". Otherwise, you use it as an excuse to hate.

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                    You might want to check on Snopes's political leanings and the lies they've been caught in.

                    http://freedomoutpost.com/texas-muslims-outraged-that-irving-city-council-backs-bill-that-will-ban-islamic-sharia-law-tribunals-there/

                    Ok, I get it now.  They want to stay in their country, so they demand we turn into their county when they get here.

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                      @raphjd:

                      You might want to check on Snopes's political leanings and the lies they've been caught in.

                      http://freedomoutpost.com/texas-muslims-outraged-that-irving-city-council-backs-bill-that-will-ban-islamic-sharia-law-tribunals-there/

                      Ok, I get it now.   They want to stay in their country, so they demand we turn into their county when they get here.

                      Did you read the article you linked? Or just the headline? From what little substance there is, in terms of law, there's nothing that contradicts what the Snopes article said. So I guess in terms of journalistic integrity, your source is on equal footing with one you believe deserves none. Until you include the remaining 5 paragraphs of slippery-slope language that dresses up this non issue as one of grave concern.

                      Seriously, look at this dreck. It's laughable:

                      While the tribunal is headquartered in Dallas, blog posts around the country pegged its home as Irving: the purported ground zero in a Muslim takeover of the U.S. legal system.

                      Wow, there's blog posts telling us this? The authority they must have on this issue.

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                        Both articles show that muslims are butt hurt and hysterical that they can't use sharia law in Texas.

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                          @raphjd:

                          Both articles show that muslims are butt hurt and hysterical that they can't use sharia law in Texas.

                          Clearly the answer to my question is no, you did not read your own article.

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                            Watch the city council video on YouTube.  Muslims getting hysterical because they can't use sharia law in Irvine Texas.

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                              @raphjd:

                              Watch the city council video on YouTube.   Muslims getting hysterical because they can't use sharia law in Irvine Texas.

                              Nah, I've done enough researching on your part. I'd be happy to watch or read specifics if you link, though.

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                                Afraid you might see something you might not like?    Perhaps muslims acting like entitled cunts?

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                                  @raphjd:

                                  Afraid you might see something you might not like?    Perhaps muslims acting like entitled cunts?

                                  TBH, I'm like inches away from not giving a shit anymore. On top of that, I don't want to look up stuff on your behalf and respond to it, only find out it's not even the thing you were talking about. If you had any conviction in what you're saying, you could at least carry the burden of proof of your own arguments.

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                                  • raphjdR Offline
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                                    Why should I bother, you're gonna excuse it away anyway.

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                                      @raphjd:

                                      Why should I bother, you're gonna excuse it away anyway.

                                      This one sentence exemplifies our shitty political system so well.

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                                        @abcddddd:

                                        @raphjd:

                                        Afraid you might see something you might not like?    Perhaps muslims acting like entitled cunts?

                                        TBH, I'm like inches away from not giving a shit anymore. On top of that, I don't want to look up stuff on your behalf and respond to it, only find out it's not even the thing you were talking about. If you had any conviction in what you're saying, you could at least carry the burden of proof of your own arguments.

                                        This is the fate of many moonbats.. they don't give a shit anymore, and after about 3 months they explode and shit goes splattering everywhere.

                                        It's also fascinating that the moonbats demand proof of everything.  I find that I not only provide links that prove much of what I say, but also provide links to prove that what the moonbats say is misleading or flat out wrong.  I wouldn't want to have me for an enemy. 
                                        There is a reason why I don't complain nor boycott the moonbats..  I am practicing to battle some moonbats in real life in a year or two, and I need to be able to deal with any trick or scheme they throw my way.  I've done it in real life before - such as when I had a lawyer disbarred and a doctor fired from the county's employ.  I have gotten much better at dealing with dingbats since then.  A dingbat is a more general form of moonbat.  A moonbat is a dingbat that is liberal.  A dingbat has no particular political affiliation.

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                                          Christians: sorry but i disagree with your lifestyle and id  rather not bake you a cake

                                          Muslims: you offended me now you must die

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