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    Trump supporters are trying to shut down free speech again

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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator
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      @sutieday:

      @aadam101:

      They did it with Obama and Hillary.  Liberals didn't care.

      The right pretends to be in favor of free speech, when in reality, they have always been against it.

      You guys set occupied building on fire to prevent speech you don't like.

      Hell, you smash people over the head with bike locks who are trying to prevent a fight.

      You set a girl's hair on fire because you don't like her hat.

      You think it's ok to pour a bottle of piss over someone's head if they ask questions you can't answer.

      You think it's ok for women to hit men, but not the other way around; gender equality.  BUT, it's ok for men to hit women if that woman doesn't agree with feminism.

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        @raphjd:

        @sutieday:

        @aadam101:

        They did it with Obama and Hillary.  Liberals didn't care.

        The right pretends to be in favor of free speech, when in reality, they have always been against it.

        You guys set occupied building on fire to prevent speech you don't like.

        Hell, you smash people over the head with bike locks who are trying to prevent a fight.

        You set a girl's hair on fire because you don't like her hat.

        You think it's ok to pour a bottle of piss over someone's head if they ask questions you can't answer.

        You think it's ok for women to hit men, but not the other way around; gender equality.   BUT, it's ok for men to hit women if that woman doesn't agree with feminism.

        I do recall you calling yourself a liberal, so if you're going to paint all liberals as the same, your including yourself too, pal.

        @raphjd:

        I'm a classical liberal.

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        • raphjdR Offline
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          Yeah, but according to you, that's "alt-right" now.

          I have nothing to do with modern liberals because they are all scum.

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            @raphjd:

            I have nothing to do with modern liberals because they are all scum.

            What was that about finding common ground, or having an equal debate, or any debate? All liberals are scum is a generalization. It's non-productive.

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            • raphjdR Offline
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              I think you purposely ignored this comment;

              The right pretends to be in favor of free speech, when in reality, they have always been against it.

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                pppucci
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                Boy, this thread deteriorated quickly once we pointed out a conservative was wrong.

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                  @raphjd:

                  I think you purposely ignored this comment;

                  The right pretends to be in favor of free speech, when in reality, they have always been against it.

                  No I didn't because that statement is nowhere near the same ballpark as the statement you made, which is incendiary to the max. If you wanted to make a counter-statement against that one, you could have brought up proof, for instance bringing up gamergate, an internet movement against narratives that has been quite heavily censored by left0wing media outlets. To which the original poster would then post proof stating that various conservative media-outlets have done the exact same thing, concerning gay rights or gay news, and have always managed to whip up a moral panic.

                  But the statement "liberals are all scum" is something that is not, in any shape or way, something that will lead to a productive conversation about anything. It's like saying: "conservatives are all pedophiles." Which will rustle your jimmies, making you post something about how liberals in some other place were caught being pedophiles, or some shit like that. Escalating the situation further, and turning the whole conversation into a poisonous dumpster-fire.

                  So yes, I purposely ignored one comment, because that comment could lead to an actual discussion, where your comment only leads to widening the gap between two sides.

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                  • raphjdR Offline
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                    SO, generalizations are good, as long as it's liberals making them against conservatives.

                    Any ass clown that thinks that wearing their granny's clip on earrings makes them trans, is a fucking idiot.    The same goes with so many other things we've been seeing the last 10+ years.

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                      @raphjd:

                      SO, generalizations are good, as long as it's liberals making them against conservatives.

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                      your head.

                      Any ass clown that thinks that wearing their granny's clip on earrings makes them trans, is a fucking idiot.    The same goes with so many other things we've been seeing the last 10+ years.

                      What the fuck do transtrenders have to do with this topic?

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                      • raphjdR Offline
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                        The comment you don't like is based on that and the other things I've talked about in this thread.

                        Suitie is a modern liberal.

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                          @raphjd:

                          The comment you don't like is based on that and the other things I've talked about in this thread.

                          Suitie is a modern liberal.

                          I have said I'm a classical liberal. I guess anyone who you disagree with is a modern lib?

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                          • raphjdR Offline
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                            You are nothing more than a whiney SJW modern liberal.    That is why you down vote everything your enemies post, no matter what is actually contained in the post.

                            You're a bike lock liberal.  They say something you disagree with, you start swinging your bike lock at their head, cuz feelz.

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                              aadam101
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                              YAWN

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                                @raphjd:

                                Any ass clown that thinks that wearing their granny's clip on earrings makes them trans, is a fucking idiot.    The same goes with so many other things we've been seeing the last 10+ years.

                                **It would help you a great deal to be taken seriously and with consideration in your posts, raph, if you were not so Willfully-Ignorant and -Stupid.

                                You bring more irrational HATRED to this Forum then anyone else's posts I have read on this site.

                                Just sayin'.
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                                • raphjdR Offline
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                                  @bostonpolar:

                                  @raphjd:

                                  Any ass clown that thinks that wearing their granny's clip on earrings makes them trans, is a fucking idiot.    The same goes with so many other things we've been seeing the last 10+ years.

                                  **It would help you a great deal to be taken seriously and with consideration in your posts, raph, if you were not so Willfully-Ignorant and -Stupid.

                                  You bring more irrational HATRED to this Forum then anyone else's posts I have read on this site.

                                  Just sayin'.
                                  . . .**.

                                  Nice of you to pop into this thread just to flame me.

                                  :police: Ya might want to check the rules before posting again.  :police:

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                                    This thread epitomizes what is wrong with this board. What started as a discussion of a current event deteriorated into unsubstantiated and inflammatory generalizations.  It is wrong to say "conservatives are against free speech," but it is incendiary to say, "all liberals are scum."
                                    Neither remark furthers the issue of the OP.

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                                    • raphjdR Offline
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                                      Liberals like to whine about posts, yet not a single liberal reported a post that clearly violated the rules by a person who jumped in to the thread solely to flame me.

                                      Where are the 40 reported posts I'd get if the same thing was done to a liberal?

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                                        @raphjd:

                                        Liberals like to whine about posts, yet not a single liberal reported a post that clearly violated the rules by a person who jumped in to the thread solely to flame me.

                                        Where are the 40 reported posts I'd get if the same thing was done to a liberal?

                                        I can't share the perspective of a moderator.  Personally, I didn't read the post because the thread was old and there was a newer one by mhorndisk on the same play. Again you are making assumptions about the behavior of others. I find that really annoying. But, I suspect you are speaking from experience.

                                        BTW, i have a message for the  :police:
                                        The links "show unread posts since last visit" and "show new replies to your posts" next to your avatar in he upper left of the forum page  work erratically.  I have diligently clicked on both when visiting the forum and I missed the flaming post in this thread.  This is not the only time something like that has happened.  I have taken to skimming the entire board to make sure I haven't missed anything.  The "new" flag works well.
                                        Do I need to log out of the site and log back in for this to work properly?

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                                          @raphjd:

                                          Liberals like to whine about posts, yet not a single liberal reported a post that clearly violated the rules by a person who jumped in to the thread solely to flame me.

                                          Where are the 40 reported posts I'd get if the same thing was done to a liberal?

                                          I don't know which post you are talking about but why would someone report a post about the moderator to the moderator?

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                                          • FrederickF Offline
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                                            @pppucci:

                                            There is no way in hell that they would ever get away with depicting an assassination of Obama.

                                            BTW, a different group did, in 2012, again in a production of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.  I don't remember liberals having a meltdown.
                                            http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2017/06/12/outrage-over-a-trump-caesar-play.html

                                            Comparing the two plays is like comparing apples to oranges.  The Trump version had a look-a-like of Trump, the Obama version had a black guy that looked nothing like Obama.  The Trump version was in NYC and viewed by a tremendous number of people (Trump always draws the big crowds) whereas the Obama version was in a rather obscure Minneapolis location.  There was MASSIVE media coverage (being that the media is 95% liberal biased) of the Trump version, whereas the Obama version was ignored by the media, and nobody really heard about it (try finding any video of it - good luck!).   The Trump version portrayed "Cesar" in an extremely negative and degrading way, whereas the Obama version portrayed "Cesar" as the victim being stabbed by "evil conservatives" including a Mitch McConnell look-a-like.

                                            And again.. putting all that aside.. it's back to Moonbat logic.. where they think it is OK to attack Trump - because they did something to Obama too.  That is complete nonsense.  The incessant, vicious attacks on Trump are a 100 times as  severe as anything done to Obama.

                                            https://townhall.com/columnists/jackkerwick/2017/06/19/the-many-differences-between-obamacaesar-and-trumpcaesar-n2343164

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