Lets work towards finding common ground and build solutions from there
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Common ground is extremely difficult to achieve when people refuse to see other viewpoints. For example, I have condemned awful behavior on the left even though I am liberal. I have yet to see any condemnation by members here who are more right or center-right on awful behavior on the right. I've literally prompted people to see if they would condemn disgusting acts committed by people on the right and every single time there was zero condemnation. Therefore, it's only me condemning bad behavior on the left and absolutely no one but fellow liberals condemning bad behavior on the right. That has to change or we can't even start to reach common ground in this forum. It cannot be this one-sided.
Same here, I thought what Kathy Griffin did was appalling, but it was a form a free speech. The right, especially on this forum, does not condemn violent anti-muslim/minority violence on their side and just avoids discussing it.
Also there is a lot of shilling for better Putin/Trump relations, even though Putin's country oppresses gays.
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Another hot topic is equality rights and social services, and who should have access to what. Something I see a lot is anti abortion discussions, while also seeing laws trying to get passed that are denying free healthcare supports to prevent the pregnancies in the first place. If a woman doesn't want to have a kid, can't afford a kid, but is forced to have it anyway.. that's just fucked up. There are enough kids in unfortunate situations already, why support any policies that are forcing people to have more? Why support any policy that takes control away from a women about their own body? It's their body to decide what to do with.
The abortion issue should NOT be what is determining who is leading the country, but it has become very close to that. A massive amount of Hillary's support came from women who want to protect their god given right to have as many guilt-free, taxpayer paid for, abortions on demand as they want. There are far too many bitches having abortions. I agree that having an abortion in the first trimester is better than crippling many lives in the future. however.. Hillary was boldly defending the right to have an abortion up until the very day of delivery! That is NUTS. If a woman hasn't made her mind up by 6 months.. well.. you waited too long bitch. How's this for an idea? What if the man doesn't want the baby? Should he be allowed to force the girl to have an abortion? If not, should he be allowed to disavow himself of any responsibility for the baby?
Breeders are quite often fucked up in the head. Who could stick their dick in a vagina, knowing that a baby could result, and they have no intention of keeping that baby? SICK!There are some things that should NOT be political issues.. religion is one.. abortion is another..
By the way.. what triggers the messages from this group to show up on the front page of the site?
I guess the first thing I should do is BEG you to do a little reading, watch a news program other than the ilk of Breitbart/Fox News/Etc. The biggest problem we have right now is the dissemination of false and misleading information (and yes I'm sure it happens on all sides, but for now I'm going to focus on your statement)
"The abortion issue should NOT be what is determining who is leading the country, but it has become very close to that" I believe you're right ONLY in the fact that abortion shouldn't be the only issue as the U.S. has SOOOOO many other issues that should be included with abortion./ BUT abortion is a hot button issue and should be included in this discussion. Why? Because to strip away Roe V. Wade would lead to the death and illness of COUNTLESS women - we've seen that through history outlawing something NEVER stopped it, think speakeasies during prohibition (which lead to a huge spike in violent crimes) and the illegalization of homosexuality (which lead to police beatings, and killings by both police and civilians) Look up the film "If these Walls Could Talk" and see the repercussions of not only illegal abortions but also the backlash of certain groups who strongly opposed the legalization (and these are true stories reenacted by actors)
Planned Parenthood provided MULTIPLE medical services for women. ONE percent of that is abortions and thanks to recent laws NO Federal funds can be used for those abortions (PLEASE look u the Hyde Amendment) so the only thing defunding planned parenthood will do is stop women from getting STI testing and treatment, breast and cervical scans that will hopefully stop cancer before it can kill these poor women who usually have no insurance or insurance that doesn't cover these services. So Hillary's "tax free abortions" is a load of BS. Also she doesn't support full term abortions. She is not advocating the murder of babies. Late term abortions are only permissible "Jen Gunter, an OBGYN who trained in late-term abortions, pointed out on Twitter, “There is no such thing as a ninth month abortion.” Those who seek late-term abortions are seeking them before a pregnancy reaches full term but often and unfortunately after they have discovered in the second or third trimester some problem with the fetus or danger to the mother." NO ONE is ripping out (to anyone's knowledge) healthy full tern children and then doing whatever murder technique is being lauded about out there.
I also find it hilarious that the same people that scream about "all babies should be born" are the VERY SAME people who show no support for a single program that would keep that child alive once it IS born! (I think we both agree on that one)
Religion is also an issue ONLY in the sense that we as a government are supposed to stay out of religion (within reason so long as a church is not breaking a law) and the CVhurch is supposed to stay put of law - but we see quite clearly that isn't happening when public organizations/bussinesses/government officials are given rights to discriminate based on religion not to mention the recent influx of religious freedom laws that protect people from religious presecution (really only Catholics/Christians since we have NO problem going after Muslims)
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Common ground is extremely difficult to achieve when people refuse to see other viewpoints. For example, I have condemned awful behavior on the left even though I am liberal. I have yet to see any condemnation by members here who are more right or center-right on awful behavior on the right. I've literally prompted people to see if they would condemn disgusting acts committed by people on the right and every single time there was zero condemnation. Therefore, it's only me condemning bad behavior on the left and absolutely no one but fellow liberals condemning bad behavior on the right. That has to change or we can't even start to reach common ground in this forum. It cannot be this one-sided.
I was the first person to call out the violence by both sides.
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Therefore, it's only me condemning bad behavior on the left and absolutely no one but fellow liberals condemning bad behavior on the right. That has to change or we can't even start to reach common ground in this forum. It cannot be this one-sided.
It is literally only you condemning bad behavior on the left, from the left. The majority of "your side" refuses to say anything. Also, you've yet to say anything on Evergreen. If you want "the right" to condemn something post a link here.
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Democrats still haven't woken up yet. There's a culture war going on between the stupid and the smart. There are tens of millions of people, manipulated by the rich and powerful, fighting to drag the world back to the dark ages. Democrats need to realize that being "smart" or "right" isn't enough, they have to fight and win.
Democrats have 68% of the economy, they give 300 billion in federal taxes to republican states. Kentucky needs handouts from New York to survive - democrats need to stop enabling republicans.
No compromise, no common ground. Don't be friends with republicans, don't hire republicans, don't shop anywhere that has a Trump sign. Don't fix the opiod crisis, every one that dies is one less Republican stealing your Democrat money. Republicans, the party of stupid, must be defeated anywhere and everywhere their fascist ideology takes hold.
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Democrats still haven't woken up yet. There's a culture war going on between the stupid and the smart. There are tens of millions of people, manipulated by the rich and powerful, fighting to drag the world back to the dark ages. Democrats need to realize that being "smart" or "right" isn't enough, they have to fight and win.
Democrats have 68% of the economy, they give 300 billion in federal taxes to republican states. Kentucky needs handouts from New York to survive - democrats need to stop enabling republicans.
No compromise, no common ground. Don't be friends with republicans, don't hire republicans, don't shop anywhere that has a Trump sign. Don't fix the opiod crisis, every one that dies is one less Republican stealing your Democrat money. Republicans, the party of stupid, must be defeated anywhere and everywhere their fascist ideology takes hold.
It is true, that some of the poorest states in the USA are run by Republicans.
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The abortion issue should NOT be what is determining who is leading the country, but it has become very close to that. A massive amount of Hillary's support came from women who want to protect their god given right to have as many guilt-free, taxpayer paid for, abortions on demand as they want. There are far too many bitches having abortions.
Again, a conservative myth. You are pretending that abortions are commonplace, and that women would rather get an abortion than use a condom.
That is just INSANE.
Stop and think about the insane things you believe about other human beings, and realize that since they are so insane, they are probably not true!
I agree that having an abortion in the first trimester is better than crippling many lives in the future.. however.. Hillary was boldly defending the right to have an abortion up until the very day of delivery! That is NUTS.
Yes, it's nuts. and it's a lie. It is a lie told by right-wing media, one of so many that you blindly believe as long as it makes Hillary look bad. What she, and all rational people, support is partial birth abortions in incredibly rare and critical cases where the life of the mother is in danger.
There are some things that should NOT be political issues.. religion is one.. abortion is another..
Correct- that is why the issue should be up to the pregnant woman or girl to decide, not any of is.
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It's hard to have a reasoned conversation with people who have been trained to shut down their critical thinking and instead recite talking points, blindly defend their side, and make broad brush insults at large groups of people they disagree with. People also need to be willing and able to try to grasp the other side's point of view, at least for the sake of argument, but that again requires reflection and thought, which is anathama to many people. This is true of both the left and the right (certainly in the USA). Even when I meet people like this that I at least partially agree with, talking with them is sort of numbing because of this zombie-like mentality.
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You are way left Sutieday!
Who said I don't want free speech? I'm not allowed to have free speech because of underage dweebs such as yourself constantly complaining. Yes.. I know. There are words I'm not allowed to say, and topics I'm not allowed to comment about.. because they hurt your little feelings when you are wrong - which is all the time.
By the way, free speech does NOT include blatantly lying about things and making up your one imaginary facts - which is what you always do.
Moonbats demand that everybody else plays nicely and obeys the rules.. but they also demand to have the right to do whatever they want and get away with it.
You left out the word "libtard." You're slipping.
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Therefore, it's only me condemning bad behavior on the left and absolutely no one but fellow liberals condemning bad behavior on the right. That has to change or we can't even start to reach common ground in this forum. It cannot be this one-sided.
It is literally only you condemning bad behavior on the left, from the left. The majority of "your side" refuses to say anything. Also, you've yet to say anything on Evergreen. If you want "the right" to condemn something post a link here.
Nope, I've posted bad behavior from those on the right and there was ZERO condemnation by those on here who consider themselves conservative. Instead, I've seen either a doubling-down of the bad behavior or complete deflection from the topic. And at least I am condemning bad behavior by those on the left, even if it's just me. There are NO conservative or conservative-leaners on here that will do the same for bad behavior on the right.
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It is true, that some of the poorest states in the USA are run by Republicans.
Red states are poorer than blue states
Red states are less educated and more stupid than blue states
Red states are fatter than blue states
Red states are more diseased with diabetes than blue states
Red states are more addicted to opioids than blue states
Red states' people die younger than blue statesRepublicans are the party of stupid, the party of failure, the party of addiction and early death. Yet we give them 300 billion in free federal money from blue state taxpayers. We can use that money to pass universal healthcare for everyone in blue states and let the red state-ers die off in their short miserable lives.
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It is true, that some of the poorest states in the USA are run by Republicans.
Red states are poorer than blue states
Red states are less educated and more stupid than blue states
Red states are fatter than blue states
Red states are more diseased with diabetes than blue states
Red states are more addicted to opioids than blue states
Red states' people die younger than blue statesRepublicans are the party of stupid, the party of failure, the party of addiction and early death. Yet we give them 300 billion in free federal money from blue state taxpayers. We can use that money to pass universal healthcare for everyone in blue states and let the red state-ers die off in their short miserable lives.
You forgot to mention the richest blue states (California and New York) make up a large percentage of the U.S. GDP. California also produces most of America's food. Without them the US would be nothing.
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It is true, that some of the poorest states in the USA are run by Republicans.
Red states are poorer than blue states
Red states are less educated and more stupid than blue states
Red states are fatter than blue states
Red states are more diseased with diabetes than blue states
Red states are more addicted to opioids than blue states
Red states' people die younger than blue statesRepublicans are the party of stupid, the party of failure, the party of addiction and early death. Yet we give them 300 billion in free federal money from blue state taxpayers. We can use that money to pass universal healthcare for everyone in blue states and let the red state-ers die off in their short miserable lives.
You forgot to mention the richest blue states (California and New York) make up a large percentage of the U.S. GDP. California also produces most of America's food. Without them the US would be nothing.
Exactly, Republicans steal from us then squander the money on opium and gay-hating churches. It's time we kept our money! Close military bases in Republican states, eliminate farm subsidies, and if they want to opt-out from universal healthcare let them and MAKE IT PERMANENT so we're not paying for their addictions and diabetes.
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Therefore, it's only me condemning bad behavior on the left and absolutely no one but fellow liberals condemning bad behavior on the right. That has to change or we can't even start to reach common ground in this forum. It cannot be this one-sided.
It is literally only you condemning bad behavior on the left, from the left. The majority of "your side" refuses to say anything. Also, you've yet to say anything on Evergreen. If you want "the right" to condemn something post a link here.
Nope, I've posted bad behavior from those on the right and there was ZERO condemnation by those on here who consider themselves conservative. Instead, I've seen either a doubling-down of the bad behavior or complete deflection from the topic. And at least I am condemning bad behavior by those on the left, even if it's just me. There are NO conservative or conservative-leaners on here that will do the same for bad behavior on the right.
I said post it, maybe we just didn't see it. I'm not going to read every single post on this forum, especially when most are shitposts at best.
Whereas, again, still you were THE ONLY liberal to call out your own side for absolute horrendous and hypocritical behavior last time I checked. Kudos to you, but the majority did not.
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Therefore, it's only me condemning bad behavior on the left and absolutely no one but fellow liberals condemning bad behavior on the right. That has to change or we can't even start to reach common ground in this forum. It cannot be this one-sided.
It is literally only you condemning bad behavior on the left, from the left. The majority of "your side" refuses to say anything. Also, you've yet to say anything on Evergreen. If you want "the right" to condemn something post a link here.
Nope, I've posted bad behavior from those on the right and there was ZERO condemnation by those on here who consider themselves conservative. Instead, I've seen either a doubling-down of the bad behavior or complete deflection from the topic. And at least I am condemning bad behavior by those on the left, even if it's just me. There are NO conservative or conservative-leaners on here that will do the same for bad behavior on the right.
I'm not going to read every single post on this forum, especially when most are shitposts at best.
If your describing your own posts, I agree.
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It is true, that some of the poorest states in the USA are run by Republicans.
Red states are poorer than blue states
Red states are less educated and more stupid than blue states
Red states are fatter than blue states
Red states are more diseased with diabetes than blue states
Red states are more addicted to opioids than blue states
Red states' people die younger than blue statesRepublicans are the party of stupid, the party of failure, the party of addiction and early death. Yet we give them 300 billion in free federal money from blue state taxpayers. We can use that money to pass universal healthcare for everyone in blue states and let the red state-ers die off in their short miserable lives.
You forgot to mention the richest blue states (California and New York) make up a large percentage of the U.S. GDP. California also produces most of America's food. Without them the US would be nothing.
Exactly, Republicans steal from us then squander the money on opium and gay-hating churches. It's time we kept our money! Close military bases in Republican states, eliminate farm subsidies, and if they want to opt-out from universal healthcare let them and MAKE IT PERMANENT so we're not paying for their addictions and diabetes.
California steals water from red states.
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If your describing your own posts, I agree.
I agree as well! That was the idea, to prove the point that all Drwas was doing was shitposting and spamming, since I literally did the same thing as him.
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The most recent forum threads with activity all show up on the home page and the login page. I noticed recently it has been dominated by political discussion which I thought was weird since this is a place for gay porn torrents.
Just because I like gay porn doesn't mean I'm not interested in politics and vice versa.
Clearly, politics is much more popular than the other forum sections.
Fair point, I wasn't used to seeing it so much all the time. I'm still new here compared to many users and I see a lot of stuff from various forum sections end up on the home page, but lately it was almost all politics and nothing else. I haven't been on this site for a while and I noticed that section is no longer on the home page or the login page, did the admins remove it?
Democrats still haven't woken up yet. There's a culture war going on between the stupid and the smart. There are tens of millions of people, manipulated by the rich and powerful, fighting to drag the world back to the dark ages. Democrats need to realize that being "smart" or "right" isn't enough, they have to fight and win.
Democrats have 68% of the economy, they give 300 billion in federal taxes to republican states. Kentucky needs handouts from New York to survive - democrats need to stop enabling republicans.
No compromise, no common ground. Don't be friends with republicans, don't hire republicans, don't shop anywhere that has a Trump sign. Don't fix the opiod crisis, every one that dies is one less Republican stealing your Democrat money. Republicans, the party of stupid, must be defeated anywhere and everywhere their fascist ideology takes hold.
That's just discrimination similar to racism. There are plenty of conservative people that are wonderful people, just like there are a decent amount of assholes, but the same can be said about democrats too. People need to be educated better across the whole damn country, so many of the current problems stem from ignorance and it's appalling how bad the public education system is (from what I hear and see online). I've never experienced it thankfully since I'm not a US citizen, but as an outsider it boggles my mind that emphasis on education is not a top priority for America
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It was removed from the homepage because the liberals kept whining (and lying) about it. We (site owner and myself) agreed that it would be less hassle to remove it from the homepage.
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