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    I LOVE Trump! Why?

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      mhorndisk
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      How about because he told Caitlyn Jenner that she could use any bathroom she chose at his hotel, and she did? Is that all you care about anyway?

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        You CAN be gay and support our President, and reject people like Maxine Waters who says Putin came up with "Crooked Hillary." She IS crooked. And so is Maxine for being such a poor actress.

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          Devken
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          @mhorndisk:

          Why?

          7- First President in a century to reduce the debt, reduce the jobless ratio, etc. Great so far.

          Really? Because that's literally impossible in the few months he's been in office.

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            There are so many reasons not to love Trump – even if we confined our discussion to LGBTQ issues, and not to the increasingly evident collusion with Russia and his ensuing efforts to suppress/cover up; his damaging ISIS-Israeli intel gaffe; etc., etc.

            As one example, the U.S. Census Bureau was preparing to add LGBTQ sexual orientation and gender identity to its 2020 survey.  After a review by the Trump Administration, the questions were deleted.  We were, essentially, erased.  And yes, that kind of visibility and recognition matters.

            Whether Trump directly nominates our enemies (Attorney General Jeff Sessions, anyone?), or simply allows lower-level minions to make policies that lessen us, the buck stops with Trump.  And you love him, so, good for you.

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              flozen
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              After reading your post a second time, I realized what a lost effort and general waste of my keystrokes this would be.  And yet, I'll take a moment to add that I can't recall reading a more absurd remark about Trump than your point number 5, regarding his charitable endeavors.

              Trump's exaggerated claims of giving, and the problems charities have experienced in collecting his pledges, are legendary and exceedingly well documented.  As one highlight, in 2007, Trump spent $20,000 that belonged to his charity — the Donald J. Trump Foundation — to buy a six-foot-tall portrait of himself during a fundraiser auction at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Florida.

              A Google search of "Trump" and "charity"  brings up hundreds of relevant articles from media across the political spectrum.  How you manage to sublimate this wealth of unflattering information, is, indeed, a triumph of your single-mindedness.

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                mhorndisk
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                @flozen:

                There are so many reasons not to love Trump – even if we confined our discussion to LGBTQ issues, and not to the increasingly evident collusion with Russia and his ensuing efforts to suppress/cover up; his damaging ISIS-Israeli intel gaffe; etc., etc.

                As one example, the U.S. Census Bureau was preparing to add LGBTQ sexual orientation and gender identity to its 2020 survey.  After a review by the Trump Administration, the questions were deleted.  We were, essentially, erased.  And yes, that kind of visibility and recognition matters.

                Whether Trump directly nominates our enemies (Attorney General Jeff Sessions, anyone?), or simply allows lower-level minions to make policies that lessen us, the buck stops with Trump.  And you love him, so, good for you.

                The Census? Why do you care? You wanna be numbered? It will never be accurate anyway so I don't care. It's another fake poll. The only numbers you'll get are those who are comfortable with giving you information about their sexuality, which a lot of people don't, so it's really useless.

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                  mhorndisk
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                  @flozen:

                  After reading your post a second time, I realized what a lost effort and general waste of my keystrokes this would be.  And yet, I'll take a moment to add that I can't recall reading a more absurd remark about Trump than your point number 5, regarding Trump and his charitable endeavors.

                  His exaggerated claims of giving, and the problems charities have experienced in collecting his pledges, are legendary.  A Google search brings up hundreds of relevant articles from media across the political spectrum.  How you mange to sublimate this wealth of information, is, indeed, a triumph of your single-mindedness.

                  And your post is ridiculous. You just Google everything and the first thing that pops up is Truth. Ridiculous in my opinion. You should ask Trump and his organization if you have any questions because Tim Caine certainly couldn't answer it in the VP debate and skirted the question. But I'm sure that's ok with you, instead of actually doing research yourself…

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                    mhorndisk
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                    @Devken:

                    @mhorndisk:

                    Why?

                    7- First President in a century to reduce the debt, reduce the jobless ratio, etc. Great so far.

                    Really? Because that's literally impossible in the few months he's been in office.

                    And actually that's a fact. Sorry if you didn't get the memo.

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                      mhorndisk
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                      I understand why you guys hate him, because you just don't want to suck his dick. That's pretty much it. It really has nothing to do with policy, it has to do with pretty. And I'm really ashamed of my gay family for being SO fucking shallow. It makes me wanna throw up x ten. An embarrassment that is unrespectable and just disgusting.

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                        mhorndisk
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                        Why else would you cheer Hillary when she literally broke the law, bleach bitting 30K emails, and Trump did nothing of the sort? Because you just think with your penis. You don't wanna suck him off, so he's JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Get a fuckin life. He didn't do anything wrong, not even close to that and you wanna make up crap about Russia that has NO PROOF! It makes me SICK. He's a good person who has donated and helped many charities. Fuck you if you wanna say otherwise.

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                          mhorndisk
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                          There is LITERAL PROOF of Hillary doing this, and NO PROOF of Trump doing anything wrong. Just your imagination, and yet you hate him, just because you don't find him "sexy." I'm sick of this hive bee mentality queen crap. We need someone who is mentally strong, and someone who doesn't cry baby all day long. Get over it.

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                            When it really comes down to it, the only reason you let people like Obama get away with LITERAL crimes is because you'd suck his dick. Like bombing seven nations and then offering to give him a second nobel peace prize. It has nothing to do with race. It has to do with you using your little head down there in your pants. That's pretty much EVERYTHING and ALL that matters to liberals.

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                              mhorndisk
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                              Obama talked about ending illegal immigration, but it was ok for him to do it because you wanted to suck his dick. When Trump says the same thing it's racist because you don't want to suck his dick. It's SO OBVIOUS.

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                                mhorndisk
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                                @flozen:

                                After reading your post a second time, I realized what a lost effort and general waste of my keystrokes this would be.  And yet, I'll take a moment to add that I can't recall reading a more absurd remark about Trump than your point number 5, regarding his charitable endeavors.

                                Trump's exaggerated claims of giving, and the problems charities have experienced in collecting his pledges, are legendary and exceedingly well documented.  As one highlight, in 2007, Trump spent $20,000 that belonged to his charity — the Donald J. Trump Foundation — to buy a six-foot-tall portrait of himself during a fundraiser auction at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Florida.

                                A Google search of "Trump" and "charity"  brings up hundreds of relevant articles from media across the political spectrum.  How you mange to sublimate this wealth of unflattering information, is, indeed, a triumph of your single-mindedness.

                                And OMG WOW your claim that Trump hasn't been benevolent in his charities is completely shameful of you, I don't even know where to begin. You start with one factoid you heard from a distorted news source. WOW. You need to do some research into the HUNDREDS OF MILLIIONS OF DOLLARS he has put into charity. I can't even continue with this conversation anymore because I think it's just dumb.

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                                  Especially compared to Clinton and Haiti OMG. There IS NO comparison. Clinton took almost a billion dollars from Haiti and promised to build a hospital and took 90% of those donations to "administrative costs." What a fucking bitch. And a loser. And a whore. And a horrible human being! How dare you vote for a witch like her!

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                                    @mhorndisk:

                                    Especially compared to Clinton and Haiti OMG. There IS NO comparison. Clinton took almost a billion dollars from Haiti and promised to build a hospital and took 90% of those donations to "administrative costs." What a fucking bitch. And a loser. And a whore. And a horrible human being! How dare you vote for a witch like her!

                                    Only one candidates charitable foundation was shut down during the campaign, and it wasn't Hillary Clintons!

                                    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5261855990001/?#sp=show-clips

                                    Trump Foundation Ordered to ‘Immediately’ Halt Fundraising in New York
                                    http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/03/trump-foundation-ordered-to-immediately-halt-fundraising-in-new-york/

                                    Trump Foundation Ordered by New York AG to Stop Fundraising
                                    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-foundation-ordered-new-york-ag-stop-fundraising-n658651

                                    Trump pays IRS a penalty for his foundation violating rules with gift to aid Florida attorney general
                                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/01/trump-pays-irs-a-penalty-for-his-foundation-violating-rules-with-gift-to-florida-attorney-general/?utm_term=.5a7987ecfcc6

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                                      Did Donald Trump Bribe an Attorney General to Protect Trump University?
                                      http://www.vanityfair.com/people/donald-trump#intcid=dt-hot-link

                                      Donald Trump has long boasted that his past political contributions have given him unique insight into the way Washington is rigged. “I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And you know what? When I need something from them, two years later, three years later, I call them. They are there for me,” he bragged during the first presidential debate. Trump’s candor won him fans, and burnished the billionaire’s claim to be the one candidate who both understands how the donor-donee relationship really works while not being beholden to donors himself.

                                      Now, with just two months until Election Day, the Republican presidential nominee’s claims to have worked the system to his advantage are coming back to haunt him. Over the Labor Day weekend, Trump faced renewed questioning about why his family foundation had donated $25,000 to a political group supporting Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi in 2013—in violation of federal rules preventing foundations from donating to political candidates—at the same time that her office was considering whether to investigate Trump University for alleged fraud. Bondi, according to reporting by the Associated Press in July, “personally solicited” the political contribution, just before she declined to move forward with the Trump University case.

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                                        Donald Trump is going to appoint Pam Bondi, who got an illegal payment from the Trump Foundation, to a White House spot

                                        It is now being reported that Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, a member of Donald Trump’s transition team who has a history with the president-elect, is being considered for an appointment in the Trump White House.

                                        When the Trump transition team was asked about the possibility of a Bondi appointment on Thursday, incoming press secretary Sean Spicer refused to divulge any information on the subject.

                                        “We have no additional announcements at this time,” Spicer said. “I don’t want to get ahead of any announcements that may or may not come.”

                                        When asked for comment by the Tampa Bay Times, Bondi said “I’d never discuss anything confidential.”

                                        It is unclear what position Bondi could be in contention for, although given that she is a career prosecutor, a position in law enforcement would be the most immediately logical.

                                        Although Bondi is widely considered to be quite close to the Trump team, her appointment would almost certainly raise controversy due to her association with the scandals embroiling the Trump Foundation.

                                        A spokesperson for Bondi’s office had told the Orlando Sentinel in September 2013 that it was determining whether they should join the New York Attorney General’s case against Trump University; four days after that, a pro-Bondi PAC received a $25,000 check from the Trump Foundation; and in October, Bondi’s office decided that “no action was necessary.”

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                                          "When they call, I give. And you know what? When I need something from them, two years later, three years later? I call them. They are there for me."

                                          Those words hang over Trump this week as he fields questions about a campaign contribution he made three years ago to a fundraising committee for Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi. That contribution has drawn scrutiny in part because the $25,000 came from Trump's nonprofit charitable foundation — in violation of IRS rules — and because the foundation failed to properly report the gift on its tax return. The foundation incorrectly reported that the money went to an unrelated charity in Kansas with a similar name.

                                          "There's a problem first of all with a charity giving a political contribution, and then it looks like there's a problem with giving false information to the IRS," said Noah Bookbinder, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a liberal watchdog group.

                                          CREW filed a complaint over the Trump contribution in March.

                                          http://www.npr.org/2016/09/06/492857874/trump-dismisses-questions-over-donation-tied-to-florida-attorney-general

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                                            #5 is just plain false.  Trump's "foundation" was nothing more than a slush fund.

                                            http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37369515

                                            Compared to the Clinton Foundation, the Trump Foundation hasn't received nearly as much media attention, but the stories that have come out have painted a sometimes-less-than-flattering picture. Here are some of the reasons why:
                                            Co-opted credit: Mr Trump has repeatedly claimed that he's making a donation to a charity only to fund that donation with money from his foundation. Given that at this point the foundation's funding comes from outside sources, he is in effect taking credit - and being lauded - for simply passing charitable donations along.
                                            The Washington Post's David Fahrenthold, who has conducted extensive investigation into Mr Trump's charitable involvement, cites the "Palm Tree Award" Mr Trump received for a $150,000 donation he made (from his foundation's money) to the Palm Beach Police Foundation. That donation came only after the Trump Foundation had received a $150,000 contribution from the New Jersey based Charles Evans Foundation, however. When the Evans Foundation donations stopped, the money to the police charity from Mr Trump's foundation ended as well.
                                            "Trump had effectively turned the Evans Foundation's gifts into his own gifts, without adding any money of his own," Fahrenthold notes.
                                            Mr Trump also benefited from the fact that the Police Foundation holds its annual charity dinner at Mr Trump's Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach. In 2014, for instance, the charity paid the club $276,463 in rental fees. Mr Trump often gave foundation donations to groups that were paying top dollar to hold events on his properties.
                                            Personal purchases: Although much of the money in the Trump Foundation has been gifted to other charitable organisations, some of it has been spent on purchases from charity auctions, including $20,000 for a 6ft tall painting of Mr Trump in 2007 and $12,000 for a football helmet signed by NFL quarterback Tim Tebow in 2012.
                                            The whereabouts of those two items are currently unknown. If they stayed in Mr Trump's possession, it would appear to be a violation of US tax law prohibiting "self-dealing" - where managers of charitable groups purchase gifts for themselves from foundation funds. If the IRS determines this was the case, Mr Trump would have to reimburse his foundation for the market value of the purchase and pay a penalty.
                                            Questionable donations: As Mr Trump began attempting to curry favour with Republicans in recent years, more of his donations have been directed to conservative causes. In 2014 he made a $10,000 donation to the American Spectator Foundation, the nonprofit group that publishes the arch-conservative magazine of the same name.
                                            The Trump Foundation also made a $100,000 donation - its largest gift of that year - to Citizens United, a conservative group best known for a lawsuit that ended with the US Supreme Court striking down limits on many of the kinds of political campaign donations Mr Trump has criticised during his candidacy.
                                            These kinds of donations, while representing a shift in the foundation's charitable giving patterns, are perfectly legal. In 2013, however, the Trump Foundation made a $25,000 contribution to "And Justice for All", a campaign committee supporting Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi. Political donations of this kind from a charitable foundation are prohibited. When the contribution was discovered in 2016, Mr Trump moved $25,000 from his personal account to compensate his foundation and paid a $2,500 IRS fine. Trump Foundation representatives have said the contribution was made in error.
                                            As multiple news outlets have pointed out, the original donation arrived just days after Florida announced it was not joining a multi-state lawsuit against Trump University - a Trump-branded for-profit company that offered real-estate seminars and has been accused of fraud. A New York Times open-records request found no evidence that Ms Bondi was directly involved in that decision, however.
                                            New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman speaks at a press conference.Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES
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                                            New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman says his office is looking into possible Trump Foundation "impropriety"
                                            OK, Trump paid a fine. Does the foundation have any other legal troubles?
                                            Yes. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman - the Democrat who is spearheading the investigation into Trump University - announced on 3 October that he has ordered the Trump Foundation to stop fundraising.
                                            The foundation had neglected to register under article 7A of New York's Executive Law, which is required for any charity soliciting more than $25,000 (£19,440) a year, a letter from Schneiderman's office said
                                            Trump officials have denounced the investigation as partisan.
                                            Democrats in Congress have requested that the US Department of Justice initiate a criminal investigation into the Bondi donation for possible violation of federal bribery laws. The left-leaning Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington has made a similar request of a US attorney in Florida - although proving such quid-pro-quo cases is extremely difficult.
                                            In addition the group has filed a formal request that the IRS revoke the Trump Foundation's nonprofit tax status - an action the IRS will likely only take if it finds egregious and repeated violations of its regulations.
                                            Donald Trump walks on his golf course in Balmedie, Scotland.Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES
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                                            Donald Trump lists free rounds on his golf courses as part of his charitable giving
                                            But Trump says he gives lots of money to charities. Is he lying?
                                            Who knows?
                                            Because Mr Trump hasn't released his tax returns, there's no way to tell exactly how much he gives to charities. The Post's Fahrenthold has been doggedly trying to track down any and all of Mr Trump's personal donations but has only identified one gift, of less than $10,000, between 2008 and May 2016.
                                            In May, four months after pledging to do so and after heightened media attention, Mr Trump donated $1m to a veterans' charity. The Republican candidate has also recently donated $100,000 to a charity aiding relief efforts following devastating floods in Louisiana.
                                            Mike Pence, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, said on 12 September that his running mate "has given away tens of millions of dollars to charitable causes throughout his business life".
                                            The Trump campaign released a list of charitable donations it says the candidate has made totalling $102m over the past five years - but the items listed were either in-kind contributions such as free rounds of golf at Mr Trump's courses offered at charity auctions and land-conservation agreements or money originating from the Trump Foundation.
                                            "The Foundation's second-biggest donation described on the campaign's list went to the charity of a man who had settled a lawsuit with one of Trump's golf courses after being denied a hole-in-one prize," Fahrenthold and the Post's Rosalind Helderman write.

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