Hillary really isn't a liberal
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No she's not, and Obama was one of the most conservative Presidents we have had in decades.
He was both the most liberal and the most conservative, depending on his mood and/or situation.
He was a massive race baiter, which is clearly a liberal thing.
Obama was a flip flop merchant when it came to gay equality. He even to credit for things he had nothing to do with.
Oddly, I wanted Hillary over Obama. At least at the start.
The more I saw/learned of Hillary, the more I ended up hating her. Most of it came from her feminist crap, such as he saying that women are the true victims of war because men go off to fight.
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They've both always been at least moderately Liberal (or I should say Liberal-fronting, as politicians, by their very nature, are almost invariably malignant narcissists and oligarchs, not true believers in a sensible balance between liberty and equity for all) at their core. But, like any politician, they do lie, manipulate, twist, pander, "flip-flop", etc. according to their audience or what suits them at any given time. They can always claim "ignorance" and "learning from their mistakes" later if need be. Perfect example of this kind of noncommittal phoniness and deception being Obama's split personalities and the voices that accompanied them.
He had at least a couple: The serious, clearly enunciated, pregnant pause-laden "Presidential" voice, and the soaring, elongated, wavering, MLK-imitation/black preacher stereotype voice. Hugely distinct, to the point of one or both being obvious contrivances. And he would choose which he employed in his speeches, depending on the makeup of his audience. Because, apparently, everyone's too stupid to notice these kinds of obvious, blatantly manipulative affectations. How can anyone stomach being manipulated and condescended to so overtly? It's nauseating! But I'm getting off topic. Fact is, they've both been riding the Progressive-pandering wave of Liberalism for the last decade+. So, Liberals, flip-flops or no. Scum like every politician, but with a specific set of talking points with which to dazzle a specific set of partisan idiots, that set being modern "Progressives".
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Hillary is whatever you want her to be if it gets your vote. Don't believe me? Ask her!
Great point!
Hillary will take whatever position that will get her the most votes and $$$. She doesn't care. -
No she's not, and Obama was one of the most conservative Presidents we have had in decades.
No offense.. but do you sniff airplane glue?
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I find so amusing the way americans talk about being liberal as a synonym for being leftist.
In my country (spain) when a politician talks about himself as a liberal you know he or she is either a conservative who favours markets, privatisations, deregulation (which is actually regulation in favour of the rich, you know), etc, or a "centrist" who favours the same thing but tries to pretend he is a leftist.We usually call them and their politics as neoliberals.
And yes, Hillary is a neoliberal and obama too. They can be socially progressive in things like lgtb rights, feminism, etc, but economically they are the stablishment as much as righwing politicians.
So no, being liberal is not the same as being leftist.
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Lifetime political monsters such as Hillary Clinton tend to disguise their true agendas and motivations.
For instance.. loonies such as Hillary, Bernie Sanders, and Obama all have the core beliefs of being anti-capitalist, regulation over competition, eliminating the wealthy class, and having the government impose themselves on every aspect of a citizen's life.. including their housing, healthcare, employment rules, salaries, retirement, everything. Basically, they want everybody and everything controlled and regulated by the government. That is the opposite of "Freedom". In fact, there is a term for what their philosophy.. it's called "Communism".
Specifically, I don't think the government should be sticking their nose into health insurance nor any other type of insurance. The government should strive to keep healthcare costs as low as possible.. so that people can AFFORD healthcare if they want and need it. Nobody should be forced to pay for health insurance.. especially if they live a healthy lifestyle. People like Hillary, Sanders, Obama like to impose their control upon everybody.
Dude, just go get some penis enlargement pills or something. I don't even believe it's as small as you think.
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Dude, just go get some penis enlargement pills or something. I don't even believe it's as small as you think.
:police: Careful :police:
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Well, duh! Right of center, just like Bill.
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@beep:
Well, duh! Right of center, just like Bill.
Hillary is MUCH MUCH worse than Bill. In fact, I don't think Bill wanted Hillary to win the 2016 election.
Maybe that is why Bill delivered the lamest endorsement speech ever at the DNC.. and called Obamacare the "craziest thing ever". -
No she's not, and Obama was one of the most conservative Presidents we have had in decades.
No offense.. but do you sniff airplane glue?
Ha ha..
;D
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