If not Trump.. who?

blackwing

Bernie Sanders. :mb2:

magentas

Bernie Sanders. :mb2:

:true: :true: :thankyou: :bravo:

raphjd

It's funny how liberal get so extremely butt hurt when I use "cuck" but they have no problems calling their enemies every name in the book.

Maybe I should start giving full site bans when liberals complain about "flaming" when that is all they do.

jbo1

@oliverqueen3:

Regardless of your political leanings or feelings toward Clinton, she was the most "qualified" person to have run in the 2016 election.

Clinton was definitely the most qualified candidate, but at the end of the day, what matters is the candidate's ideas and platform, not qualification. If you base your vote on qualification as opposed to ideas, then ordinary people will never hold these high elected positions. This is the kind of elitist/born into privilege mentality that has driven away some old school/labour movement types from the Democratic Party.

Frederick

@jbo1:

@oliverqueen3:

Regardless of your political leanings or feelings toward Clinton, she was the most "qualified" person to have run in the 2016 election.

Clinton was definitely the most qualified candidate, but at the end of the day, what matters is the candidate's ideas and platform, not qualification. If you base your vote on qualification as opposed to ideas, then ordinary people will never hold these high elected positions. This is the kind of elitist/born into privilege mentality that has driven away some old school/labour movement types from the Democratic Party.

I don't think you meant to say that Clinton was most "qualified". I think you meant to say that she was most "experienced". She has spent her lifetime in politics. If she had won, she would finish off destroying what Obama missed. I think it is disgusting that a huge part of her platform was "government subsidized, guilt-free abortions on demand.. even up until the day of delivery". Even the supporters of that goal should be horrified that it would comprise a major part of her platform. Abortion is bad. Perhaps not as bad as giving birth to a child that nobody can or will take care of, but it is bad nonetheless. It's nothing to be proud or supportive of. Anybody in favor of abortion rights should do so with great REGRET. Hillary was far too enthusiastic about it. You won't believe this.. but one of Hillary's biggest supporters was this crazy woman who said she wished she had gotten pregnant so she could exercise her right to have an abortion! How sick is that?

blackwing

I have to laugh to myself at anti-choice/anti-abortion gay men - if the roles were reversed, they would be ALL FOR IT. But, they are unable to comprehend anyone elses' feelings & experience - and at that point, they usually start quoting archaic religious doctrine that they do not even understand.

magentas

@Frederick:

I don't think you meant to say that Clinton was most "qualified". I think you meant to say that she was most "experienced". She has spent her lifetime in politics.

Both words are correct- she is experienced AND qualified, and Trump is neither.

If she had won, she would finish off destroying what Obama missed.

Destroying? Wow, what political propaganda did you get that from?

Bill Clinton gave us one of the most successful administrations since Kenedy, and then GW Bush DESTROYED it.
Obama was handed his DESTRUCTION, and did a damn fine job of repairing the damage.

Yet, Conservatives complain that Obama did not fix the damage done by the GOP fast enough, when he was blockaded by the GOP at every turn!

By any objective measure, the US thrives under Democratic administrations, and gets flushed down the crapper by Republicans.

I think it is disgusting that a huge part of her platform was "government subsidized, guilt-free abortions on demand.. even up until the day of delivery". Even the supporters of that goal should be horrified that it would comprise a major part of her platform. Abortion is bad. Perhaps not as bad as giving birth to a child that nobody can or will take care of, but it is bad nonetheless. It's nothing to be proud or supportive of. Anybody in favor of abortion rights should do so with great REGRET. Hillary was far too enthusiastic about it. You won't believe this.. but one of Hillary's biggest supporters was this crazy woman who said she wished she had gotten pregnant so she could exercise her right to have an abortion! How sick is that?

Ah, so there you go- a single issue voter who does not care about the economy, foreign policy, LGBT rights, health care, education, climate change, or any other issue that the GOP constantly craps on, just so long as your taxes don't go to abortions.

Now THAT is sick.

blackwing

And BOTH are downright EVIL to the core & corrupt in EVERY possible way. :balls2:

@magentas:

Both words are correct- she is experienced AND qualified, and Trump is neither.

Negrescence

You often see post on here vilifying Clinton and using misinformation to claim how corrupt she is. Every post has been debunked with sourced information and with detail and every post against Trump also resides in the same rigor of research and fact-checking. I can't understand how this continues to persist and on this site it is Trump supporters that throw out these outlandish claims just to be on the defensive when the litany of facts bombard them. You have no idea what makes her vile and so supporters just repeatedly throw out debunked slights against Hillary over and over to no end as if they're hoping, in time, that we too will leave reality behind.

jbo1

@Negrescence:

You often see post on here vilifying Clinton and using misinformation to claim how corrupt she is. Every post has been debunked with sourced information and with detail and every post against Trump also resides in the same rigor of research and fact-checking. I can't understand how this continues to persist and on this site it is Trump supporters that throw out these outlandish claims just to be on the defensive when the litany of facts bombard them. You have no idea what makes her vile and so supporters just repeatedly throw out debunked slights against Hillary over and over to no end as if they're hoping, in time, that we too will leave reality behind.

It's not that Hillary is the embodiment of all evil in the world and Trump certainly isn't above criticism. But you can't complain about the vilification of Hillary Clinton as if it was a problem when Trump has been compared to Hitler and his presidency is under constant attack.

There's also an expectation that people claiming the moral high ground practice what they preach. Clinton unleashed a monster when she attacked Trump's personal record when hers was not morally superior.

jbo1

@Frederick:

@jbo1:

@oliverqueen3:

Regardless of your political leanings or feelings toward Clinton, she was the most "qualified" person to have run in the 2016 election.

Clinton was definitely the most qualified candidate, but at the end of the day, what matters is the candidate's ideas and platform, not qualification. If you base your vote on qualification as opposed to ideas, then ordinary people will never hold these high elected positions. This is the kind of elitist/born into privilege mentality that has driven away some old school/labour movement types from the Democratic Party.

I don't think you meant to say that Clinton was most "qualified". I think you meant to say that she was most "experienced". She has spent her lifetime in politics. If she had won, she would finish off destroying what Obama missed. I think it is disgusting that a huge part of her platform was "government subsidized, guilt-free abortions on demand.. even up until the day of delivery". Even the supporters of that goal should be horrified that it would comprise a major part of her platform. Abortion is bad. Perhaps not as bad as giving birth to a child that nobody can or will take care of, but it is bad nonetheless. It's nothing to be proud or supportive of. Anybody in favor of abortion rights should do so with great REGRET. Hillary was far too enthusiastic about it. You won't believe this.. but one of Hillary's biggest supporters was this crazy woman who said she wished she had gotten pregnant so she could exercise her right to have an abortion! How sick is that?

Indeed, "experienced" would have been a better word choice.

blackwing

First off, when the information is biased because it is coming from Clinton supporters…. Yeah, that's NOT debunked OR sourced information. Secondly, you assume I MUST be a Trump supporter because I am against Hillary - NOT TRUE. Expand your horizons, and learn who Bernie Sanders & Jill Stein are. For THAT matter, learn the meaning of "third-party".

@Negrescence:

You often see post on here vilifying Clinton and using misinformation to claim how corrupt she is. Every post has been debunked with sourced information and with detail and every post against Trump also resides in the same rigor of research and fact-checking.