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    Hillary taking 90% of Haiti Donations

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      mhorndisk
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      You're stupid if you think Trump is Republican. He ended the Republican party just as we as Americans didn't start slavery, we ENDED it.

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        mhorndisk
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        Democrats are the walking dead now.

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          tymac
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          This was shown to be nonsense last year, during the actual election.

          http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/25/reince-priebus/reince-priebus-false-claim-80-clinton-foundation-c/

          The election is over, you don't have to smear his opponents now.

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            mhorndisk
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            No. Watch the debate between Mike Pence and Tim Kaine were Pence said: "The Clinton Foundation gives ten cents on the dollar, the Trump Organization gives 100%" Kaine had an opportunity and an obligation to not only deny but to rebut but he didn't because he couldn't. That's a fact and the reason Hildabeast lost. Period. You still haven't proven anything and Hildabeast still is GUILTY of taking 90% of the donations from Haiti for "administrative costs." She's an evil witch and if you still think otherwise you're just dumb. If it weren't a FACT, Timmy boy would have taken the opportunity to obliterate it as a falsehood, but instead he changed the subject because he just couldn't. Because it's True.

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              tymac
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              @mhorndisk:

              No. Watch the debate between Mike Pence and Tim Kaine were Pence said: "The Clinton Foundation gives ten cents on the dollar, the Trump Organization gives 100%" Kaine had an opportunity and an obligation to not only deny but to rebut but he didn't because he couldn't. That's a fact and the reason Hildabeast lost. Period. You still haven't proven anything and Hildabeast still is GUILTY of taking 90% of the donations from Haiti for "administrative costs." She's an evil witch and if you still think otherwise you're just dumb. If it weren't a FACT, Timmy boy would have taken the opportunity to obliterate it as a falsehood, but instead he changed the subject because he just couldn't. Because it's True.

              What an insane argument. Apparently now just being accused of something makes you guilty. I'm afraid that logic is toxic and unconstitutional.

              Worse that that however you entirely and deliberately misrepresenting events, to put it politely. From the actual transcript:

              "PENCE: Well, Thank you. Thank you. The Trump Foundation is a private family foundation. They give virtually every cent in the Trump Foundation to charitable causes.
              KAINE: Political contributions?
              PENCE: Less than ten cents on the dollar in the Clinton Foundation has gone to charitable causes.
              KAINE: A $20,000 portrait of Donald Trump?
              PENCE: Less than 10 cents on the dollar of the Clinton Foundation has gone to charitable causes.
              KAINE: Ninety percent.
              PENCE: It has been a platform for the Clintons to travel the world, to have staff. But honestly, Senator, we would know a lot more about it if Hillary Clinton would just turn over the 33,000 e-mails…
              QUIJANO: All right, let's turn back to North Korea..."

              There you have it. Kaine does correct Pence. This time Pence doesn't dispute the 90% figure. By your logic he is acknowledging that he lied in not disputing the correction. He also doesn't dispute the fact that the Trump Foundation being 100% is also bullshit. I've cited the evidence already on the real contributions of the Clinton Foundation.

              This nonsense needs to end. The election is over. Hilary lost. Her views on matters are now totally and completely irrelevant. She is not the person behind the current mess on the Hill. She is not the person you have to worry about.

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                aadam101
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                You do realize that the Trump Foundation has to "rent" space on Trump property to hold events.  The money that people donate goes right into his pocket.

                Plus don't forget he also used donations to settle a fine that was accrued by his private business.

                In any case, Hillary isn't President.  Trump is.  It's time to accept the fact that you are responsible for what will be the end of America.

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                  oerouen
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                  What IS all of this pure batshit crazy?  :crazy2: I had to check the timestamps 3 times to make sure I wasn't looking at posts from last year. Did someone go off their meds?  :afraid2:

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                    Negrescence
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                    This is the problem with Trump supporters. You hear anything that supports your biased agenda and hew to it without doing any research. First of all, the Clinton foundation made no commitment to build a hospital and Haiti, USAID, and the Clinton-Bush foundation have no record of any of this. This all started with Cohen making this comment that had nothing behind it to substantiate it. There was approximately 82 million from the us government that went through USAID for medical facilities, but this did not involve the Clinton foundation. There is also the 500 million "commitment to actions" pledge made to the Clinton foundation  to help Haiti. However, The Clinton foundation only tracks these commitments, it doesn't manage them or the money. There was some frustration about the priorities of the foundation there, such as employing Haitians there to build luxury hotels and and her brother's investment in a gold mining company, but nothing about a hospital or the foundation siphoning funds. Bill Clinton did co-chair on the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission that was charged with building the Port-au-Prince hospital that was delayed. Those are separate funds though and just a delay. The relief was not a total success obviously and left many frustrated, but that's poor management, not corruption. Clinton foundation and her brother did stand to make a lot of money from the mining company, housing development, and so on. Siphoning money from the fund however, would have hurt them and would have made no sense in the long run. The Clinton foundation has done a lot of good, far more than Donald Trump. It just remains to be seen if that good tags along some greed or just the foundations expansion to do more.

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                      aadam101
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                      This isn't even a debate.  The Trump Organization is as corrupt as they come.  That's why it's under investigation in 5 states.  Trump used money from his foundation to pay a business fine that was accrued by the Mar-A-Lago.  He also "rents" space to the foundation to hold functions.  The money that is donated just gets funnelled through the foundation and into his pockets.  I don't know how you can defend that.  It's corruption plain and simple.

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                        Dene
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                        @mhorndisk:

                        Donna Brazil just admitted that she got the questions. But that's ok to you because you're an idiot. It was totally corrupt but that's ok for you… Shut the fuck up.

                        HEY

                        I get you are passionate - but lay off the abuse

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                          royalcrown89
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                          Yep, all of this disinformation and craziness is so relevant because Hillary Clinton is the 45th POTUS and Democrats run the Congress. It's sad that Agent Orange voters and supporters live in a false reality where Hillary won and must be stopped; meanwhile, in the real world we're stuck with a HIGHLY unpopular president with strange hair that's dangerously close to getting us involved in a war with North Korea  :crazy2:

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                            Dene
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                            @royalcrown89:

                            Yep, all of this disinformation and craziness is so relevant because Hillary Clinton is the 45th POTUS and Democrats run the Congress. It's sad that Agent Orange voters and supporters live in a false reality where Hillary won and must be stopped; meanwhile, in the real world we're stuck with a HIGHLY unpopular president with strange hair that's dangerously close to getting us involved in a war with North Korea  :crazy2:

                            "unpopular president with strange hair" LMAO

                            not laughing re : Trump, laughing how you just slipped that in between false realities and north korea - 😄

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                              royalcrown89
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                              Lightening the mood with a joke or two helps mellow out the irrational rants, but it's still sad to see someone so deep into an alternate reality where Hillary, self-proclaimed pantsuit aficionado, won the election and needs to be impeached for allegedly taking PB&J sandwiches from Haiti children while calling them super predators :crazy2:

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                                Bluesurfer
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                                First of all I would like to say Thank God I'm a Canadian because if I wasn't I would be busy now applying to become one!  I cannot believe all the BS being spewed from Trump supporters, not one word of which is close to the truth… Talk about FAKE NEWS.... to quote you're new President.  I'm surprised you're not also going after Hilary Clinton for running a pedophile ring.. oh wait, one Trump supporter already took the matter into his own hands (gun and all) to stop it, but found out that low and behold it was just a pizza joint.  I have to be honest that I have followed American politics all my life and you folks have just elected the scariest man I could think of to run your country.  Personally I feel sorry for the man as it's obvious he is suffering some type of mental illness that is either not being treated or cannot be treated.  And frankly after reading all the Trump supporters comments and statements, I believe you could all use a mental time out.  May I suggest you take advantage of Oboma Care to receive the much needed treatment you need while it's still available because once the Republicans get finished with there repel and replace, you too may be one of the 24 plus million people no longer covered by health care.  But you know what they say... you get what you voted for!  God Bless the United States of America, you're going to need it!

                                Pleased thank everyone for the time they take to upload torrents for our benefit and Have a great day!!!!!

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                                  Dene
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                                  @mhorndisk:

                                  Hillary and Obama are the most evil manifestations of reality you could ever imagine. Hillary actually took 20K from the KKK and praised Robert Byrd as a mentor, the grand dragon of the KKK.

                                  The above, short, rant summarises two of the three main reasons I find some on the extreme side of politics frustrating:

                                  1. the presentation of unfounded opinions as undeniable fact:

                                  The whole Robert Byrd/Grand Dragon thing was simply a photo shopped lie on twitter - let me clarify, he WAS a member but this was for a short time - in the 1940s! it is 2017. he was denouncing them as early as 1952! lol

                                  He rose up some ranks but nothing like grand dragon.

                                  There is plenty of ranting and paragraphs you could say re: Clinton  but you may want to do some research, instead of relying on twitter

                                  2. the extreme language used by extreme commentators- such as the above - "Hillary and Obama are the most evil manifestations of reality you could ever imagine." - If they are the worst you could "imagine" then may i suggest people google : mao zedong, stalin, hitler and the rest.

                                  3. It is not really represented here but it is throughout the various threads - I call it the "what about.." argument. It goes like this

                                  Person A: blah blah blah Bob's apples
                                  Person B: Oh yeah??? you $%^^& but what about Jim's oranges
                                  Person A is then suddenly bamboozled in to talking about Jim's oranges   
                                  Person B: SEE?? I told you you were wrong

                                  when in fact they may have said some REALLY cool stuff about to say about Bob's apples but because the person hates/loves Bob so much they purposely derail the argument  and "prove that person wrong" about nothing to do with the original post lol

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                                    mhorndisk
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                                    Robert Byrd was an exalted GRAND CYCLOPS of the KKK, and the fact that you're even defending Hillary for calling him her mentor and ignoring the quotes from Margaret Sanger about saying black people are weeds, and ignoring the fact that Hillary took money from the KKK without rebuking them is totally ridiculous and shameful. You need to get your facts straight and quit playing hypocritical word games.

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                                      mhorndisk
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                                      A REMINDER: THIS SUBJECT IS HILLARY TAKING 20K FROM THE KKK and 90% of the HAITI DONATIONS FOR ADMINSTRATIVE COSTS, and CALLING MARGARET SANGER A HERO when she said, "BLACK PEOPLE ARE WEEDS." How can you honestly support someone that supports the likes of these people? It boggles my mind. And you wanna go into this crap about how Robert Byrd left the KKK and ignore all the other stuff as though that is an answer that deserves respect??? You must have lost your mind.

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                                        mhorndisk
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                                        She's a horrible person and she DID take 90% of the donations to HAITI as "Administrative Costs." She did praise Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, who said "black people are weeds that need to be exterminated." How can you praise someone like that? You've gotta be out of your mind. You don't wanna answer those questions and instead actually just make a point by point about how Senator Byrd was ok after a while? Give me a break. Answer how she can actually take $20,000 from the KKK and not send it back or rebuke it? She took the money and you didn't have NOTHING to say about, just like you don't NOW. She's EVIL. Personified. And you are supporting her evil crap. When the KKK sends you money, you send it back, retard!

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                                          Dene
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                                          @mhorndisk:

                                          Robert Byrd was an exalted GRAND CYCLOPS of the KKK, and the fact that you're even defending Hillary for calling him her mentor and ignoring the quotes from Margaret Sanger about saying black people are weeds, and ignoring the fact that Hillary took money from the KKK without rebuking them is totally ridiculous and shameful. You need to get your facts straight and quit playing hypocritical word games.

                                          I didn't ignore anything - I was addressing your statement re : Robert Byrd being a Grand Dragon (now changed, I see, thank-you for researching it :)) - the guy was 92 when he died - he left the KKK in 1952 - If you think I should hold her accountable for his lapse of judgement in a very different time period and 60 or so years ago then you are going to do the same with Trump.. deal? Because he said/did/associated with people that did some pretty awful things in the lat 40 years and longer and he exalted them too

                                          re : Margaret Sanger: Clinton associated herself with a person who said some awful things ? ok. What should she do. Shoot her? Did she agree with her ? Did she stand next to her and cheer her on, did she repeat them and agree with them? Guilt by association is something a LOT of politicians could easily be found guilty of, including your beloved Trump, and is part of the job. Seems to me you are clutching at any dirt from any associate of hers then acting like she personally said/did these things. she didn't. Her taste in people may be a bit off and I agree with that but, again, thin argument.

                                          When you argue such things it proves something, you are holding Clinton to a much higher standard than Trump.. which is kinda illogical since he is the president but - with you - he gets a free ride ? Why ? Does he not have accountability, same as everyone else?

                                          If you were to scrutinise Trump as much as you scrutinise Clinton we would be reading pages of ranting - you need to understand this - HE WON !!! HE WON!! You act like he lost lol - but that is not the end - most people voted him in to to do certain things and if you were one of them then you need to start holding him accountable or you will get nothing

                                          My "hypocritical word games"? you mean discussing things? Debunking Myths? Not agreeing with every single thing you say? This is me just stating opinions and answering your obvious single minded hate on someone that is really quite irrelevant these days.

                                          I do not believe Clinton was/is an angel - but the way you make her out - with such obvious hate that is too extreme and therefore I responded..

                                          Clinton & The Democrats denounced the KKK and its donation - it was 20k, was donated anonymously and noone can even prove it exists. Do you want to go through both parties donors?  Because I am sure the lists would be very interesting on both sides - you are being very nitpicky then blowing things up

                                          As for the Haiti thing - that is all hearsay and cannot be proven either, thanks to both sides bullshitting - noone knows exactly and if they do, they aren't saying because (like i'm trying to say over and over) if they can prove it then The Republicans and their foundations will get same scrutiny and even you know that could get messy LOL - see they know that accountability is a two edged sword

                                          Anyway - i've written enough for 1 post lol

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                                            magentas
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                                            @mhorndisk:

                                            But regardless, you bitches are continually disregarding the issue at hand, the subject matter, that Hillary did in fact take 90% of the donations to Haiti as administrative costs. You wanna talk all about other crap, but the facts are the facts. She did, and you can't deny it. Don't give me your crap, because you're embarrassing humanity in the process.

                                            False. This lie was debunked long ago, but people addicted to hate propaganda websites keep repeating it over and over.

                                            Many celebrities have vanity charities. They raise money for them, and then distribute the funds to other charities that actually do the work.

                                            Some right-wing morons latched onto the fact that the Clinton Foundation does NOT distribute very much to other charities, and, as usual, they went ballistic.

                                            Oh, no, the Clintons must be stealing from the poor and disadvantaged!

                                            In reality, the Clinton Foundation does not distribute to other charities because THEY ACTUALLY DO THE WORK. They build schools and clinics.

                                            Th Trump Foundation, on the other hand, has taken money that was supposed to go to disabled Veterans and used it for his presidential campaign!

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