Steve King is proof that #45 has emboldened white supremacists
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Also, this is just my argument and I have used reputable sources to back it up. I am in no way saying this is definite. It is an argument that I believe and if others believe it, that's fine. I am one person and I do not represent anyone but myself. Therefore, using my postings as poster children for "common liberal and/or SJW thought" would also derail your argument.
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So, your logic is that voting for/supporting Trump means we support white supremacy, but you get pissy when we use your logic against you. You logic dictates that you support the most crackhead liberal SJW bullshit.
Even more telling is that you think you control the topic.
Fucking typical.
And as always, I don't like Trump, never have. I wanted Elizabeth Warren.
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Any attempts to deflect the point of this post by bringing up irrelevant topics such as Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, BLM or feminism….blah-blah-blah-blah....
Yeah, there's no way in heck I'm reading that wall of text after already seeing you are a SJW who actually believes sites like Huffington Post.
The fact is, you cannot say you have the right to believe what you want and make such claims and then tell others they do not have those same rights.
I just shut morons out who have such small, closed minds.
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Any attempts to deflect the point of this post by bringing up irrelevant topics such as Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, BLM or feminism….blah-blah-blah-blah....
Yeah, there's no way in heck I'm reading that wall of text after already seeing you are a SJW who actually believes sites like Huffington Post.
The fact is, you cannot say you have the right to believe what you want and make such claims and then tell others they do not have those same rights.
I just shut morons out who have such small, closed minds.
Bye!Thank you for proving my point and affirming my argument.
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Once again, whether you support the blatant white nationalist and white supremacist ideals of this administration and people like Rep. Steve King or the fact that they are themselves white nationalists and white supremacists doesn't bother you one bit; you are supporting white nationalism and white supremacy. It's very telling how no one is refuting the actual claim. Why are you not refuting the sources with your own sources that prove Rep. Steve King, Steve Bannon or even #45 himself are not pushing a white nationalist, white supremacist agenda in this country? Where is your proof that the Republican party has not used racism to unify their base for the last 30-40 years? It's very telling that most people's first line of defense it to shout, "I'm not a white supremacist," instead of condemning the disgusting things that Rep. Steve King and Steve Bannon have said. Do you agree that white people are superior to everyone else? Do you agree that white people have contributed the most to modern civilization; therefore, only white people should be treated fairly and humanely? Why are you not refuting this and instead are bringing irrelevant things into this discussion?
You're not holding me to my own logic by bringing up irrelevant topics into a discussion about one highly specific argument. Hold me to my logic by proving what I am saying is wrong with your own reputable sources. You cannot prove someone wrong on a highly specific topic by bringing in irrelevant information. Bringing in irrelevant information automatically destroys your argument. This discussion is about Steve King and others like him being emboldened by the white nationalist rhetoric of Steve Bannon and our current chief executive, #45. Here are some examples of that white nationalist rhetoric and the embracing of that white nationalist rhetoric by actual white nationalists and white supremacists.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/white-nationalists-on-bannon/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/14/steve-bannon-white-house-racism-fear
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/quotes-from-steve-bannon-trumps-new-white-house-chief-strategist/
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/rep-steve-king-endorses-racist-white-nationalism/
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/donald-trump-2016-white-nationalists-alt-right-214388
Let me guess, all of these reputable sources are a part of some mass left-wing conspiracy, right? Steve King, Steve Bannon and #45 have never inspired any white nationalists and/or white supremacists with their rhetoric? No wonder why you people never once came out against the ridiculous "alternative facts" claim. You truly believe in an alternate reality.
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The Guardian is a far left rag.
CNN is fake news. Don Lemon and his usual guests whore for the left.
BULLSHIT. If you are claiming that Trump supporters are guilty of thought crimes by association, then so are you. You don't get to accuse others of something, without it affecting you too.
Just because a person like you says something is irrelevant, doesn't mean it is. That's just your bogus claim.
Using your logic, you are guilty by association of everything Hillary and everyone of her supporters believe.
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The Guardian is a far left rag.
CNN is fake news. Don Lemon and his usual guests whore for the left.
BULLSHIT. If you are claiming that Trump supporters are guilty of thought crimes by association, then so are you. You don't get to accuse others of something, without it affecting you too.
Just because a person like you says something is irrelevant, doesn't mean it is. That's just your bogus claim.
Using your logic, you are guilty by association of everything Hillary and everyone of her supporters believe.
Excuse me sir, but I used a combination of sources from very different media outlets. You cannot claim that every single source I used is "fake news" or a "far left rag" without providing sources that refute my claims. This is basic logical reasoning we are talking about here, not make believe or gut feelings. And once again I am reminding you to stop trying to deflect what this discussion is about. It is not about Hillary Clinton, it is about what the title of the thread says, "Steve King is proof that #45 has emboldened white supremacists." Where in that title or in my initial argument in the first post do you see any mention of Hillary Clinton? This argument is not about Clinton or any other irrelevant topic you keep trying to bring into this discussion. Where are your sources proving that Steve King, Steve Bannon or even the Republican party as a whole has never embraced racism and/or white nationalism and white supremacy to unify their base? Where are your sources that prove Steve King or Steve Bannon have never made any comments supporting white nationalism and/or white supremacy? Is Steve King not a Republican assigned as a chairman to a current Congressional committee or subcommittee; therefore, suggesting he is in leadership within the Republican controlled Congress? Is Steve Bannon not a lead strategist and consultant to #45 in the White House? What about my argument is false and where are your sources to prove they are false?
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You don't get to demand what this topic is about.
You said that anyone who supports Trump supports white supremacy.
So by your logic, you support beheading gays and stoning women because you support Hillary.
You just want to name call those you disagree with, without them pointing out your bullshit. As I pointed out, if you can call Trump supporters "white supremacists", then others are fully within their rights to call Hillary supporters whatever they want as well.
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You don't get to demand what this topic is about.
You said that anyone who supports Trump supports white supremacy.
So by your logic, you support beheading gays and stoning women because you support Hillary.
You just want to name call those you disagree with, without them pointing out your bullshit. As I pointed out, if you can call Trump supporters "white supremacists", then others are fully within their rights to call Hillary supporters whatever they want as well.
Once again, what does that have to do with my argument? And I actually said either they support white supremacy OR #45's embracing of white supremacy and white nationalism did nothing to dissuade them from voting for him. Why are you going off into wild tangents about "beheading gays," and "stoning women?" That's all you do on here is deflect, deflect and deflect some more.
95-98% of what you say is wholly irrational…and when confronted with an argument backed up by multiple sources, you fail to refute the claims being made, and instead, you deflect. Also, I am pointing out your irrationality when making arguments, not you personally. I can say your arguments are based in racism (which in itself is irrational) without blatantly calling you a racist as you have done me many, many times on here.
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LOL, you don't like me not obeying your demands to only Trump hate, so I'm irrational. Gotta love it. :cheers:
If those that voted for Trump are X, Y and Z because they voted for Trump, then the same for those that voted for Hillary.
Just because Hillary didn't win, means nothing. You and anyone who supported her hate gays and women, because Saudi Arabia supported her.
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LOL, you don't like me not obeying your demands to only Trump hate, so I'm irrational. Gotta love it. :cheers:
If those that voted for Trump are X, Y and Z because they voted for Trump, then the same for those that voted for Hillary.
Just because Hillary didn't win, means nothing. You and anyone who supported her hate gays and women, because Saudi Arabia supported her.
Saudi Arabia donated to the Clinton Foundation charity. So did many other countries. Norway gave more money than Saudi Arabia too.
The Clinton Foundation which used that money to help disenfranchised individuals all around the world get access to medication for HIV/AIDs and malaria and also set up networks that provide accessible and equitable healthcare.
Trump on the other hand registered eight companies in Saudi Arabia during his campaign while at the same time saying that he would never take Saudi money. He is also in talks with Mr. Son, who runs a front for Saudi money to the tune of $100 billion dollars, 45 billion of which is Saudi. This will allow Saudi money to take over many companies in Sillicon Valley.
Is doing business directly with the royal family, or letting Saudi investors take control of American companies the same fucking thing as using Saudi money to fund solutions for healthcare?
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LOL, you don't like me not obeying your demands to only Trump hate, so I'm irrational. Gotta love it. :cheers:
If those that voted for Trump are X, Y and Z because they voted for Trump, then the same for those that voted for Hillary.
Just because Hillary didn't win, means nothing. You and anyone who supported her hate gays and women, because Saudi Arabia supported her.
Your argument is irrational because you are attempting to refute my claims by bringing in Hillary Clinton, who is wholly irrelevant to this topic. Refute my claims with evidence that Steve King, Steve Bannon and #45 have never said a single thing defending white nationalism and/or white supremacy. Using Hillary Clinton as some "well she's doing it, too," symbol of false equivalence worked well while the election was happening but now it's over. We are talking about reality now, not make believe or what would've happened. The reality is we have people in positions of power (King, Bannon, #45) defending white nationalism and white supremacy because they now feel comfortable due to the election of #45. You may not take the effects of white nationalism and white supremacy serious but that gives you no right to attempt to minimize them to those of us who are effected by them in this country. If you want to make a thread about liberals supporting all of the bad things Hillary and Bill have supported, fine, make your thread with your own sources. No one is stopping you. But what you will not do is deride what this discussion is about just because you're uncomfortable with the topic. Where is your evidence that King, Bannon and #45 have never uttered a single comment defending or inspiring white nationalism and/or white supremacy?
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NOPE. You do not get to control this topic.
You said anyone who voted for or supported Trump is guilty by extension. Of course I'm not surprised at all that you're butt hurt because I use that same logic against you.
Since that is your claim, then it applies in all cases. Or are you just doing this to scream "racism" again?
AND AGAIN, you don't get to dictate what is and is not allowed in this thread.
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LOL, you don't like me not obeying your demands to only Trump hate, so I'm irrational. Gotta love it. :cheers:
If those that voted for Trump are X, Y and Z because they voted for Trump, then the same for those that voted for Hillary.
Just because Hillary didn't win, means nothing. You and anyone who supported her hate gays and women, because Saudi Arabia supported her.
Saudi Arabia donated to the Clinton Foundation charity. So did many other countries. Norway gave more money than Saudi Arabia too.
The Clinton Foundation which used that money to help disenfranchised individuals all around the world get access to medication for HIV/AIDs and malaria and also set up networks that provide accessible and equitable healthcare.
Trump on the other hand registered eight companies in Saudi Arabia during his campaign while at the same time saying that he would never take Saudi money. He is also in talks with Mr. Son, who runs a front for Saudi money to the tune of $100 billion dollars, 45 billion of which is Saudi. This will allow Saudi money to take over many companies in Sillicon Valley.
Is doing business directly with the royal family, or letting Saudi investors take control of American companies the same fucking thing as using Saudi money to fund solutions for healthcare?
AND? Trump is a douche bag, so what?!
RC doesn't care about any of that, he just wants to scream "racism" at white people.
Saudi is still killing gays and women, regardless if they give money to the Clinton charity. So Hillary isn't as innocent as you want us to think.
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While you are right, the orange gas bag is the real reason for fear. He probably isn't running the show but he sure as hell is driving the car. Sorry, watching 'School of Rock' and it is catchin'
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NOPE. You do not get to control this topic.
You said anyone who voted for or supported Trump is guilty by extension. Of course I'm not surprised at all that you're butt hurt because I use that same logic against you.
Since that is your claim, then it applies in all cases. Or are you just doing this to scream "racism" again?
AND AGAIN, you don't get to dictate what is and is not allowed in this thread.
If you want to apply my logic to me, that's fine.
That's not what I'm arguing against. I am arguing that the election of #45 has inspired white nationalists and white supremacists to come out of hiding and take pride in their racism, and I used Rep. Steve King (R-IA) and his recent white nationalist and white supremacist language as an example. Instead of refuting my claims, which you must agree with, you've made attempts to equalize things that Hillary Clinton has allegedly supported (without any substantial proof to back up those claims by the way). Why are you trying to minimize the effects of white nationalism and white supremacy instead of refuting that they actually exist and they have damaging effects on society? Is it because Steve King's words are so well-known? Is it because the Republican party in Congress has given him chairmanship of committees and subcommittees despite his support for white nationalism and white supremacy? There has to be a reason why you do not take white nationalism and white supremacy speech coming from an elected official seriously. Is it because you yourself support it?
I condemn the things you accuse Hillary Clinton of yet I have not heard you condemn the hate speech from white nationalists like Steve Bannon, Steve King and #45 himself. Where is your condemnation? Where are your sources that prove what I'm saying about King, Bannon and #45 are wrong?
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LOL, you don't like me not obeying your demands to only Trump hate, so I'm irrational. Gotta love it. :cheers:
If those that voted for Trump are X, Y and Z because they voted for Trump, then the same for those that voted for Hillary.
Just because Hillary didn't win, means nothing. You and anyone who supported her hate gays and women, because Saudi Arabia supported her.
Saudi Arabia donated to the Clinton Foundation charity. So did many other countries. Norway gave more money than Saudi Arabia too.
The Clinton Foundation which used that money to help disenfranchised individuals all around the world get access to medication for HIV/AIDs and malaria and also set up networks that provide accessible and equitable healthcare.
Trump on the other hand registered eight companies in Saudi Arabia during his campaign while at the same time saying that he would never take Saudi money. He is also in talks with Mr. Son, who runs a front for Saudi money to the tune of $100 billion dollars, 45 billion of which is Saudi. This will allow Saudi money to take over many companies in Sillicon Valley.
Is doing business directly with the royal family, or letting Saudi investors take control of American companies the same fucking thing as using Saudi money to fund solutions for healthcare?
AND? Trump is a douche bag, so what?!
RC doesn't care about any of that, he just wants to scream "racism" at white people.
Saudi is still killing gays and women, regardless if they give money to the Clinton charity. So Hillary isn't as innocent as you want us to think.
I think you missed the point… You need to calm down a bit.
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I am calm. Not sure why you'd say I'm not.
RC is claiming guilt by association, while ignoring his side's guilt by association. Actually, he's demanding :blink: that the topic is forbidden in HIS thread.
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I am calm. Not sure why you'd say I'm not.
RC is claiming guilt by association, while ignoring his side's guilt by association. Actually, he's demanding :blink: that the topic is forbidden in HIS thread.
How is asking you to refute my claims "ignoring my side's guilt?" What you are trying to do is minimize what this topic is about by bringing an irrelevant argument. Like I've said, I made an argument backed up by reputable sources and instead of providing your own sources to refute those claims, you tried to deflect and you never even attempted to refute my claims. You know what that means? 95-98% of what you say is wholly irrational based on either some mild form of mental illness or just old-fashioned racism. Hard to discern which it is or if it's a combination of both. <<< my standard reply to you from now on (I gave you ample chances this time)
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NOPE. You do not get to control this topic.
You said anyone who voted for or supported Trump is guilty by extension. Of course I'm not surprised at all that you're butt hurt because I use that same logic against you.
Since that is your claim, then it applies in all cases. Or are you just doing this to scream "racism" again?
AND AGAIN, you don't get to dictate what is and is not allowed in this thread.
If you want to apply my logic to me, that's fine.
That's not what I'm arguing against. I am arguing that the election of #45 has inspired white nationalists and white supremacists to come out of hiding and take pride in their racism, and I used Rep. Steve King (R-IA) and his recent white nationalist and white supremacist language as an example. Instead of refuting my claims, which you must agree with, you've made attempts to equalize things that Hillary Clinton has allegedly supported (without any substantial proof to back up those claims by the way). Why are you trying to minimize the effects of white nationalism and white supremacy instead of refuting that they actually exist and they have damaging effects on society? Is it because Steve King's words are so well-known? Is it because the Republican party in Congress has given him chairmanship of committees and subcommittees despite his support for white nationalism and white supremacy? There has to be a reason why you do not take white nationalism and white supremacy speech coming from an elected official seriously. Is it because you yourself support it?
I condemn the things you accuse Hillary Clinton of yet I have not heard you condemn the hate speech from white nationalists like Steve Bannon, Steve King and #45 himself. Where is your condemnation? Where are your sources that prove what I'm saying about King, Bannon and #45 are wrong?
Accusing Steve Bannon of being a "white nationalist" is just delusional and detached from reality at this point. The only people that think Steve Bannon is some kind of anti-semite or racist are the uninformed that are insulated from facts. Even the ADL walked back their accusations of Steve Bannon being anti-semitic or racists. Literally the ONLY "proof" they could come up with is that the comment section on some articles had some racist trolls in them, which by that logic would also mean Youtube is responsible for racist trolls commenting on youtube videos, and would also mean youtube endorses racism.
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/stephen-bannon-five-things-to-know
Trump has condemned racism, white nationalism, etc more times than any of us can count. I certainly condemn racism, in ALL forms, but the left has yet to condemn their own racist anti-white, anti-semitic people. The left was getting ready to prop up well known anti-semitic racist Keith Ellison as their DNC chair, and NOBODY condemned his hateful speech which emboldened anti-semitic "liberal" racists. Or the fact that the left supports openly racist policies such as BDS movement which has emboldened anti-semites everywhere. The left in America will go the same way as Corbyn's party if they continue to refuse to condemn racism on their OWN side.
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