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      rawr
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      @raphjd:

      LOL, if you don't care about anything being discussed, then why are you in the thread?   A bit odd, don't you think.

      Umm, we discussed that NYC law, as well as Canada's C-16 law in another thread.

      So to be clear, you don't pay attention because you don't care, but you feel the need to tell me off for caring and paying attention.  That says you are either a liar or you are too concerned about me.  Maybe I need to go into hiding.

      Sigh lost my reply. Oh well. Not retyping it. I'll keep it short.

      #1 That's not what I said.

      #2 You may have, I did not.

      #3 I am concerned about a lot of people. You included.

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        @Eridanos:

        @aadam101:

        Where are all the Conservatives now?  Doesn't Milo have a right to free speech?  If he can promote racism why can't he promote pedophilia?

        Don't try to put racism and pedophilia at the same level, aadam.  We can tolerate racism (we are all racist in one way or another - some are more willing to accept it than others) but pedophilia has zero tolerance.

        Milo went too far, no matter if it was only for shock value or for real.

        Also, what's with this reply?, I considered you thoughtful and articulate…

        So what about sexual assault?  So called President Trump promoted sexual assault against WOMEN in his pussy grabbing tape.  Sexual assault against a WOMAN is ok but conservatives draw the line at sexual assault teen MALES?  It's an interesting line to draw.

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          @aadam101:

          So what about sexual assault?  So called President Trump promoted sexual assault against WOMEN in his pussy grabbing tape.  Sexual assault against a WOMAN is ok but conservatives draw the line at sexual assault teen MALES?  It's an interesting line to draw.

          Honestly, the fact a person can interpret such stupid and vulgar remarks as promoting sexual assaults is just as bad as someone interpreting them to be a permit for sexual assaults.

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            @Eridanos:

            @aadam101:

            So what about sexual assault?  So called President Trump promoted sexual assault against WOMEN in his pussy grabbing tape.  Sexual assault against a WOMAN is ok but conservatives draw the line at sexual assault teen MALES?  It's an interesting line to draw.

            Honestly, the fact a person can interpret such stupid and vulgar remarks as promoting sexual assaults is just as bad as someone interpreting them to be a permit for sexual assaults.

            Of course it is.  He was giving Billy Bush advice.  Bush was a young star at the time and he was letting him know that he can go around grabbing pussy because of the fact that he is a star.  Bush even got fired for it and he barely said a word.

            His words are not much different than what Milo said.  The only difference is that conservatives don't believe that women are equal citizens and they don't care if they are sexually assaulted.  They do protect the males though…..

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              Umm, do you think that Trump is wrong that all kinds of women throw themselves at rich men?

              Nobody wants women to be raped or sexually assaulted.

              Males have virtually no protection.  According to the way the FBI records crime stats, thanks to the feminist campaign RAPE IS RAPE, women can not rape men.  This is the case in most of the western world, despite the feminist claims of gender equality.

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                @raphjd:

                Umm, do you think that Trump is wrong that all kinds of women throw themselves at rich men?

                Nobody wants women to be raped or sexually assaulted.

                Males have virtually no protection.  According to the way the FBI records crime stats, thanks to the feminist campaign RAPE IS RAPE, women can not rape men.  This is the case in most of the western world, despite the feminist claims of gender equality.

                Trump didn't say anything about women throwing themselves at him in the Billy Bush tape.  You are making that up.  He didn't even imply it.

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                  @aadam101:

                  Where are all the Conservatives now?  Doesn't Milo have a right to free speech?  If he can promote racism why can't he promote pedophilia?

                  1. You must be a special kind of stupid if you think that racism and pedophilia are the same things.

                  2. Provide proof that Milo has "promoted" racism. I would imagine that the number of black men that he has fucked might have a thing or two to say dispelling that notion. (BTW, just because someone doesn't believe that blacks should be treated differently because they are black is the exact OPPOSITE of racism.)

                  3. Listen or read long enough to anyone and you will hear some stupid shit. It hasn't taken all that long for me to realize that with you.

                  4. I feel exactly the same way about Milo saying this stupid shit in public as I did when George Takei said it in 2006. For some reason, though, when Takei said it there wasn't even a blip in the news about it…

                  http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/22/george-takei-milo-yiannopoulos-child-molestation/
                  http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/milo-yianopoulos-george-takei-twitter-facebook-brietbart-paedophilia-comments-video-a7592856.html
                  http://theralphretort.com/george-takei-goes-into-graphic-detail-approves-underage-sex-act-with-older-man-when-will-he-lose-endorsements-2021017/
                  http://redalertpolitics.com/2017/02/22/liberals-condemn-milos-comments-mum-george-takei/

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                    @amicusets:

                    @aadam101:

                    Where are all the Conservatives now?  Doesn't Milo have a right to free speech?  If he can promote racism why can't he promote pedophilia?

                    1. You must be a special kind of stupid if you think that racism and pedophilia are the same things.

                    2. Provide proof that Milo has "promoted" racism. I would imagine that the number of black men that he has fucked might have a thing or two to say dispelling that notion. (BTW, just because someone doesn't believe that blacks should be treated differently because they are black is the exact OPPOSITE of racism.)

                    3. Listen or read long enough to anyone and you will hear some stupid shit. It hasn't taken all that long for me to realize that with you.

                    4. I feel exactly the same way about Milo saying this stupid shit in public as I did when George Takei said it in 2006. For some reason, though, when Takei said it there wasn't even a blip in the news about it…

                    http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/22/george-takei-milo-yiannopoulos-child-molestation/
                    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/milo-yianopoulos-george-takei-twitter-facebook-brietbart-paedophilia-comments-video-a7592856.html
                    http://theralphretort.com/george-takei-goes-into-graphic-detail-approves-underage-sex-act-with-older-man-when-will-he-lose-endorsements-2021017/
                    http://redalertpolitics.com/2017/02/22/liberals-condemn-milos-comments-mum-george-takei/

                    Then forget the racism.

                    Pussy grabbing and molesting teenage boys are pretty similar.  The right has no problem with pussy grabbing because they view women as second class citizens.  They have even convinced some women that they are equal despite the fact that they think it's ok for random male "stars" to grab their pussies whenever they like.

                    Then as soon as someone promotes the idea of grabbing penis they play the moral card. It's pathetic.

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                      @aadam101:

                      Pussy grabbing and molesting teenage boys are pretty similar.  The right has no problem with pussy grabbing because they view women as second class citizens.  They have even convinced some women that they are equal despite the fact that they think it's ok for random male "stars" to grab their pussies whenever they like.

                      Then as soon as someone promotes the idea of grabbing penis they play the moral card. It's pathetic.

                      Still, clearly not the same thing or similar other than they are both considered to be sexual assault, which is pretty broad. Your logic is like saying that stealing a candy bar is the same thing as stealing a car because they are both larceny.

                      Uh, Who is they?

                      Also, there's a few models on this site, where if they walked up to me and grabbed my junk, I would be okay with that.

                      Sorry, I never really understood the whole pussy grabbing thing other than the music video was hysterical and it was obviously not something that was meant to be in the public.

                      The issue arises when the sexual misconduct is unwanted, the way he worded what he said actually insinuated that they would allow you to… To me, this means they would be okay with it... Although, I admit, the way he sounded, he makes it seem like he is a "connoisseur." Like as if he does this all the time or something.

                      Edit: I always felt the government should stay the hell out of people's sex lives, there's absolutely ridiculous over-sensitivity to "sexual assault." Look, if one person is too aggressive and the other person says no, and the aggressive person keeps it up, then it's wrong. Sooner or later, if people don't stop being so over sensitive to the issue, you're going to have to ask permission for every hug and have to sign a legal document every time you have sex.

                      Even in the "Pussy Grabbing Context." Okay, Orange faced man walks up to you, starts making it out with you and is all over your junk, if you're participating, then you're obviously okay with it... There's this grey area now where you can be willfully participating, but it's sexual assault... That's bullshit.

                      As far as pedophilia, no sorry, it's always wrong. And "he slipped and did the splits on to my cock" is not going to hold up in court.

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                        @aadam101:

                        Then forget the racism.

                        Pussy grabbing and molesting teenage boys are pretty similar.  The right has no problem with pussy grabbing because they view women as second class citizens.  They have even convinced some women that they are equal despite the fact that they think it's ok for random male "stars" to grab their pussies whenever they like.

                        Then as soon as someone promotes the idea of grabbing penis they play the moral card. It's pathetic.

                        Damn, you just love proving my point, don't you:
                        @amicusets:

                        Listen or read long enough to anyone and you will hear some stupid shit. It hasn't taken all that long for me to realize that with you.

                        Someone disproves and calls out the bullshit of your argument, so you just on a different line of attack.

                        Again, pedophilia and sexual assault of an adult are two VERY DIFFERENT things. These things are not equitable in the slightest.

                        As for his comments "advocating" for sexual assault fits in with the rest of the bullshit you have spewed. For one thing, he wasn't advocating anything, and the other, it was a conversation between two straight men. If you have ever been around multiple straight men that aren't themselves SJWs you would realize that talking like that is "normal."

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                          aadam101
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                          @amicusets:

                          @aadam101:

                          Then forget the racism.

                          Pussy grabbing and molesting teenage boys are pretty similar.  The right has no problem with pussy grabbing because they view women as second class citizens.  They have even convinced some women that they are equal despite the fact that they think it's ok for random male "stars" to grab their pussies whenever they like.

                          Then as soon as someone promotes the idea of grabbing penis they play the moral card. It's pathetic.

                          Damn, you just love proving my point, don't you:
                          @amicusets:

                          Listen or read long enough to anyone and you will hear some stupid shit. It hasn't taken all that long for me to realize that with you.

                          Someone disproves and calls out the bullshit of your argument, so you just on a different line of attack.

                          Again, pedophilia and sexual assault of an adult are two VERY DIFFERENT things. These things are not equitable in the slightest.

                          As for his comments "advocating" for sexual assault fits in with the rest of the bullshit you have spewed. For one thing, he wasn't advocating anything, and the other, it was a conversation between two straight men. If you have ever been around multiple straight men that aren't themselves SJWs you would realize that talking like that is "normal."

                          You're right.  These things are different.  The teenage boy probably likes it.  The woman doesn't.

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                            I guess you either believe the gender wage gap exists, or you haven't paid attention to what the (now former) President says.    He's also spewed many other feminist lies like the college rape lies.

                            Let's not forget how Obama race baited black deaths when if fact they were "clean kills" like Michael Brown in Ferguson.

                            It seems even "conservatives" are far left leaning now-a-days.

                            Even if that were all true, which I think is a complete delusional perception on your part, that still doesn't eliminate feminist issues.  Again, you attacking somebody on the left doesn't make problems or issues null and void.

                            So who are the "good feminists" who marched on Washington?  Was it the celebs with their bullshit rants or the crowd who cheered for them?

                            My friends for one.  Also, why are celeb rants bullshit?  But again it's okay for you to stereotype and villainize entire groups in your mind.

                            Fucking hell.   We have an internet shrink and "patriarchy" screamer.  Says it all.

                            In the entire existence of this country we haven't had 1 female President (and I'm not talking about Hillary not winning this particular election; I'm talking about not 1 single female being President of 45 opportunities despite making up about 50% of the population).  That stat alone (let alone all the other ones) shows the existence of patriarchy.  You can make up as many excuses and justifications as you want, but the proof is in the pudding.

                            Unless you want to argue that females are innately less able to become President, that means the issue is social (nurture instead of nature).  And if that is the case, that means patriarchy exists.

                            So you tell me…why has a female never become President out of 45 opportunities?  Why that insane disparity between the fact that they are NOT minorities and yet lack so much power?  Is it nature or nurture?

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                              @aadam101:

                              @raphjd:

                              Umm, do you think that Trump is wrong that all kinds of women throw themselves at rich men?

                              Nobody wants women to be raped or sexually assaulted.

                              Males have virtually no protection.   According to the way the FBI records crime stats, thanks to the feminist campaign RAPE IS RAPE, women can not rape men.   This is the case in most of the western world, despite the feminist claims of gender equality.

                              Trump didn't say anything about women throwing themselves at him in the Billy Bush tape.  You are making that up.  He didn't even imply it.

                              Do you mean when Trump said this to Billy Bush;

                              "They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy.”

                              Notice the 1st part,  THEY LET YOU DO IT.

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                                The "patriarchy" is the feminist version of the boogey man.

                                Women are the biggest voting block and they could do anything they wanted if they voted en mass.  Blame women for not voting for Hillary's vagina.

                                Justin Trudeau talked about how hard it is to get women to run for politics and he's n uber feminist cuck.

                                Society treats men like shit at every turn, but it's "patriarchy".

                                Just because you are a self hating feminist, doesn't mean that  feminists tell the truth.  With all the laws in just the US alone about equal pay, feminists should have plenty of exact proof that they can point to rather than vagueries and stats that run counter to official US government departments.

                                I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that you probably only know about gender issues as spoon fed to you by feminists.  You probably don't know about gender biased issues outside of the bullshit your friend and other feminists have told you about.

                                I bet that you didn't know that in India, the law says that women can not commit domestic violence and any sort of sex crime.  Back in 2012/13 when they tried to change this, feminists lost their fucking minds and put a stop to it.

                                There are countless issues in the UK that are totally pro-women and feminists fight to maintain those special rights, while fighting to make things worse for men.  Despite all the laws about gender equality in the UK, the official judges' rulebook, aka Bench Book, states in both the equalities and sentencing section that women must be treated extremely leniently in all areas of court proceedings, especially in sentencing.

                                The US feminist campaign RAPE IS RAPE, fought to expand the definition of rape.  They also fought to include male rape victims in FBI crime stats, but they lost their shit when the FBI wanted to include ALL male rape victims.  In the end, the FBI (under Obama the cuck), it was agreed that women can't victimize men.

                                Anyone who claims "patriarchy" can fuck off.

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                                  The "patriarchy" is the feminist version of the boogey man.

                                  Women are the biggest voting block and they could do anything they wanted if they voted en mass.   Blame women for not voting for Hillary's vagina.

                                  You apparently don't understand what "patriarchy" is or how it works.  Straight from Wikipedia:

                                  "Patriarchy is a social system in which males hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property…Historically, patriarchy has manifested itself in the social, legal, political, religious and economic organization of a range of different cultures. Even if not explicitly defined to be by their own constitutions and laws, most contemporary societies are, in practice, patriarchal"

                                  Patriarchy isn't about blaming men.  It's simply identifying which gender has more power, status, and/or privilege.  And men have more.  You can justify it all you want.  You can blame whoever you want.  But it's not Boogeyman, when we've had 45/45 Presidents be male and yet females make up about 50% of the population

                                  And yes, females keep females down, and that is mostly due to a patriarchal cultural system that programs and influences values in favor of men.  It's clearly not due to nature, so that means it's due to nurture.  That means it's due to US--SOCIETY.

                                  Justin Trudeau talked about how hard it is to get women to run for politics and he's n uber feminist cuck.

                                  And why do you think that is?  Given how females used to often rule tribes before the rise of the more militaristic patriarchal tribes that started taking over the world, it's obviously not due to nature.  That means it's product of cultural systems which then go on to raise and indoctrinate future generations (males and females) with certain values, ideals, beliefs, opportunities, etc.

                                  Society treats men like shit at every turn, but it's "patriarchy".

                                  A society that treats men like shit (it hasn't treated me like shit at all, so I think "at every turn" is an overstatement) still doesn't negate the existence of patriarchy.

                                  Just because you are a self hating feminist, doesn't mean that  feminists tell the truth.   With all the laws in just the US alone about equal pay, feminists should have plenty of exact proof that they can point to rather than vagueries and stats that run counter to official US government departments.

                                  Did you mean self-hating male? lol.  I love being male, and I would never want to be female precisely because I know females have it worse.  If you had the choice, I doubt you'd choose being female over male–let's be real.

                                  Laws are critical for more equality, but they hardly guarantee equal treatment.  Are you really that naive?  There's the enforcement of laws, there's the entire culture of a nation, there's value systems and beliefs where people literally can't see or understand problems and deny their existence (like sexism, racism, homophobia, etc.), etc.

                                  I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that you probably only know about gender issues as spoon fed to you by feminists.

                                  Actually I studied masculinity too.  I did take a class on feminism and that helped wake me up.  But being gay obviously got me thinking about the subtle ways culture, values, beliefs, etc. create systems of privilege and power and how subtle and invisible they often are to people who don't think critically about cause and effect on a wider level.

                                  What are your personal qualifications of knowing about gender issues?  What makes you an expert and so quick to deny what feminists say?

                                  You probably don't know about gender biased issues outside of the bullshit your friend and other feminists have told you about.

                                  We can always point to how males and/or females are treated badly with specific cases.  The existence of Patriarchy or sexism against female doesn't negate the existence of sexism against males.  You seem to think that any injustice done to Republicans/men/white people/etc. automatically negates injustices done to other groups and vice versa.  It doesn't.  Fighting injustice against minorities, females, immigrants, etc. shouldn't be considered an attack Republicans/men/whites/etc!  We're all supposed to be in this TOGETHER.

                                  The only way that it possibly is a bad thing to remove these injustices is if you're viewing this with a scarcity mindset as a zero-sum game where anything good happening to others means it's hurting you.  More equality only hurts you, if you had no intention of wanting an equal, fair, or merit-based world in the first place.  If you are all for selfishness, entitlement, privilege, and power–then yes, I guess you could say helping others, fighting injustice, etc. hurts you.  Is that the case?  Is that how you think?

                                  I bet that you didn't know that in India, the law says that women can not commit domestic violence and any sort of sex crime.   Back in 2012/13 when they tried to change this, feminists lost their fucking minds and put a stop to it.

                                  No I don't know, and I think that's a tangent that's not particularly relevant to the issue of patriarchy.  But I'll certainly look at it if you give me a link to that topic

                                  There are countless issues in the UK that are totally pro-women and feminists fight to maintain those special rights, while fighting to make things worse for men.

                                  How so?

                                  Despite all the laws about gender equality in the UK, the official judges' rulebook, aka Bench Book, states in both the equalities and sentencing section that women must be treated extremely leniently in all areas of court proceedings, especially in sentencing.

                                  That may very well be true, but that certainly doesn't negate the existence of patriarchy.  Again, this world is filled with multiple injustices.  There are many things that are against BOTH females and males.  It's not 1 or the other.  Females or people outside of your specific social groups are NOT your enemies.  Injustice is your enemy.  To the extent you want to further perpetuate it is the more injustice, hate, division, and extreme counter-measures tend to occur.

                                  The US feminist campaign RAPE IS RAPE, fought to expand the definition of rape.  They also fought to include male rape victims in FBI crime stats, but they lost their shit when the FBI wanted to include ALL male rape victims.  In the end, the FBI (under Obama the cuck), it was agreed that women can't victimize men.

                                  Again, it doesn't negate the existence of patriarchy.  But feel free to provide proof for this

                                  Anyone who claims "patriarchy" can fuck off.

                                  Why do you think that examples of injustice to men somehow negates the existence of injustice to females.  I mean it seems to be your main argument for everything against social groups you identify with is that somebody from another social group is doing your social group wrong.  So that means they are EVIL BAD PEOPLE TRYING TO KEEP YOU DOWN but your group is full of sweet innocent angels that can do no wrong!  It's so black and white–this or that.  Have you not realized that humanity is full of flaws and injustice is everywhere?!?  That bad things can happen to multiple groups all at the same time and that all people have good/bad sides to them and manage to fuck each other over both intentionally and unintentionally?  That's why we need more people to take accountability and pursue higher values than revenge, tribal-like thinking, etc.

                                  It's not just about kumbaya to feel good.  It's in our self-interest to uphold a moral social contract.  When we don't do that and pursue unapologetic selfishness, that just erodes the foundation of social cooperation and creates more division and internal war.  That is in none of our self-interest, and then we ALL get less and less of what we want.

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                                    By "at it again" I assume you mean teaching the actual truth and defending basic freedoms.

                                    The right wing bullshit in this forum is getting pretty thick.

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                                      The "patriarchy" is feminist bullshit, at best.  It's used to man bash at every turn.

                                      If anything, society is man hating.  We treat women better than men at every turn.  Medical and social funding massively favors women.

                                      The west, whether officially or unofficially, uses the Duluth Model of domestic violence which dictates that even in the face of extreme evidence, the man is always guilty.

                                      Women have nothing better to bitch about than "man-spreading" and the like.  Oddly, women are far worse at spreading out on public transport than men could ever dream of.

                                      YES, there are some GOOD feminists, but the extreme vast majority of feminists absolutely hate them.  Christina Hoff Sommers and others like her are decent feminists.

                                      The fact that you ran to Wikipedia to find out the definition of patriarchy show you don't know anything about feminism or you are part of their lie.

                                      More proof that feminism is nothing but man hating is the lie that it's about GENDER EQUALITY.  Anyone who spent an hour researching feminism would have to be a total idiot if they still believed that lie.  There has never been a feminist campaign that benefited men only to make us equal to women.

                                      AGAIN, women are the biggest voting block in every western country, meaning that anything they decide to do en mass will be done.  Hillary could have been elected by women and there is nothing men could do about it.  Add all the cuck votes in and it's the biggest landslide the world has ever seen.

                                      It's extremely telling how you, like all the other "normal" feminists dismiss facts because they don't gel with their religion.

                                      In the 30 years I've been debating feminists, the only feminist that I respect is a 12yo (she might be 13 now) girl from Somalia, now living in the US.  She didn't automatically reject things that disagreed with her beliefs.  She understood that I hate feminism because of feminists.  It was great talking to her.  If we're lucky, in about 10 years, she'll be the new Christina Hoff Sommers.

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                                        @raphjd The way you endlessly repeat your prejudices as if they were some sort of logical argument is very tiresome - which, naturally, predisposes me to believe that YOU are very tiresome. Police that.

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                                          YoungGun
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                                          The "patriarchy" is feminist bullshit, at best.  It's used to man bash at every turn.

                                          It's not bullshit.  100% male Presidents.  Approx. 50% gender divide.  Male bashing doesn't eliminate or justify injustices to females.  Your inability to sympathize with the plight of others only leads to contributing to a world where nobody is going to care about issues affecting you.  You want the world to care about your problems, but you dismiss the problems of others and actively contribute to the world's.

                                          You'll dislike me for saying this (no doubt dismissing any personal responsibility as you've done this entire time), but basically I can now say you definitely have an entitled, self-centered, victim-oriented, scarcity-based mindset.  You lack basic emotional intelligence and empathetic skills, and the reason why you probably are being "bashed at every turn" probably has nothing to do with being male and everything to do with you being selfish and caustic and everybody is just giving you the same treatment back.

                                          Instead of trying to rise to the best version of yourself and make the world a better place, you prefer to sink to the lowest level justifying all kinds of bad behavior by looking at and mirroring all the worst parts of humanity and then positioning yourself as the ultimate wronged victim who now has a license to contribute to the world's wrongs, because you think pointing out somebody worse somehow eliminates your own social responsibilities.

                                          You're basically a leech on society, you create problems rather than solve them, you're highly negative and bitter, and basically I bet you kind of hate yourself on some level as there's clearly a lot of projection going on.  I hope life turns around for you, and you become a better version of yourself, because right now you're doing neither yourself or society any favors.  I do believe you've struggled in life and you're angry and frustrated for a reason, but I think your values/intent are completely misguided and your belief/interpretations/perspective completely deluded

                                          The fact that you ran to Wikipedia to find out the definition of patriarchy show you don't know anything about feminism or you are part of their lie.

                                          That was just to reference a well-known popular source of information (in other words–not some extremist fringe feminist source) for YOUR edification--not mine.

                                          More proof that feminism is nothing but man hating is the lie that it's about GENDER EQUALITY.  Anyone who spent an hour researching feminism would have to be a total idiot if they still believed that lie.   There has never been a feminist campaign that benefited men only to make us equal to women.

                                          Well even though it's about gender equality, it's specifically more about correcting and rebalancing power, because females are in the subordinate position generally speaking.  Unfortunately, to rebalance power, that IS an attack of male privilege/power, which clearly you view as an attack or a weakening of your own power.  But since you didn't EARN certain gendered privileges, and since presumably a decent human being would want to promote a society of relative justice versus a more dog eat dog world (in which you'd get trampled on even more if you think the issues you've been bitching about are bad), that's just a part of shared sacrifice.  Male entitlement is precisely a mechanism and symptom of patriarchy that keeps women down.

                                          That doesn't make me a man hater, because I'm willing to give up power I didn't earn for others.  In my mind, it's in our self-interest to genuinely pursue a society that truly embodies values such as justice, merit, consistency, etc.  When we don't uphold those values, we simply open the door and justify all the wrongs that come our way as well.  But in any case, I understand what kind of person you are now, so these conversations are going nowhere

                                          AGAIN, women are the biggest voting block in every western country, meaning that anything they decide to do en mass will be done.   Hillary could have been elected by women and there is nothing men could do about it.   Add all the cuck votes in and it's the biggest landslide the world has ever seen.

                                          It's extremely telling how you, like all the other "normal" feminists dismiss facts because they don't gel with their religion.

                                          No the funny thing is I agree with you on that particular fact.  The one doing the "dismissing" is you.  Did you even UNDERSTAND what I was saying?  The fact that women could POTENTIALLY be the biggest voting block, and STILL we haven't had 1 female President just goes to show how entrenched patriarchy is.  When women are so completely divided and mentally subordinated where they don't WANT to run for President, they don't WANT to elect a female to be President, etc. that tells you that they have been disenfranchised by culture itself

                                          True feminism doesn't argue that males keep females down (which is what I think you think they believe).  True feminism believes social structures keep females down.  And those social structures include other females keeping females down.  So your points only serve to complete validate my argument not detract them

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                                            @raphjd The way you endlessly repeat your prejudices as if they were some sort of logical argument is very tiresome - which, naturally, predisposes me to believe that YOU are very tiresome. Police that.

                                            Umm, this is forum spam, since it adds no value to the conversation and is nothing but a personal attack.

                                            Rather than posting personal attacks, try proving me wrong.

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