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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator
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      @alibix:

      @raphjd:

      Umm, that quote is exactly what you said.

      Let's compare:

      "SJWs do not exist"

      "To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them. "

      No it is not what I said. What are you not getting?

      SOOOOOO dishonest.

      In your quote, you are claiming that SJWs only exist on the internet and only because people complain about them.  Nowhere in the quote do you admit that you have seen any SJWs anywhere, in real life or on the internet.  You act as if they are mythical creatures that right-wingers made up.

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      • raphjdR Offline
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        @Diakon:

        "SJW" is just the new cool fearmongering term that conservatives and some centrists like to use, just like the "uppities" and the Great Feminist Menace™ of yesteryear (even though some people today still seem to be stuck in the past, tragically).

        The reality is that save for a few misguided folks, usually teens who don't have a very in-depth grasp of social politics, as well as a good lot of blatant trolls who know very well what they're doing, the majority of what gets classified as "some kind of SJW bullshit" can be anything from centrist/mainstream/"normal" equality politics (the kind your local law already accounts for, probably, unless you live in some fundie haven), to politics further on the left that favour equity over equality, to radical left politics which don't beat around the bush when it comes to identifying and bringing attention to inequality and "heavier" forms of oppression (like fascism or imperialism), and which are generally known for not being very nice, as they forego all forms of respectability politics.

        It's a lot easier to just call everything you don't like or wish to comprehend "SJW bullshit" and label everyone who tries to have a rational discussion about these politics a "pesky SJW" or a "tumblrina" even if they aren't as per the words' definitions, which is why threads like these end up being created everywhere on the Internet, including gay porn sites apparently. 🙂

        EDIT: Also, according to a lot of people, even something as simple as bringing up LGBT topics or just mentioning that gay people exist is considered "SJW bullshit" and "pandering", which should give you an idea of just how useful that term is in general.

        Ah, so a few folks are causing all the crap we see all over the west.

        What exactly are you saying is mainstream or centrist that got labeled SJW?    I'd love to know.

        Which is worse; #KillAllWhites  or  #KillAllBlacks  I can tell you that this experiment was done on Twitter by several people and Twitter only banned accounts that post one of these, but not the other.    Similar thing on Facebook and YouTube.

        YouTube bans for racist videos unless it's anti-white racist videos.    The same as Facebook.    Both have countless channels/pages of black supremacists and nothing happens to them, but white supremacists get their channels deleted.  I believe that ALL racism is bad and should be deleted.

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          alibix
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          @Eridanos:

          @alibix:

          The quote says that the hate crime needs to be a serious one. Refusing to use someone's preferred pronoun isn't serious. You are over exaggerating this bill to make it seem like the spooky scary SJWs are breaking down doors shotgunning people who don't say the right pronouns in front of their family.

          One question, and answer honestly:
          Have you met an SJW in real life?

          Considering how some groups are acting, is just a matter of time before they throw you a glove because you forgot to refer to them as 'Xer' or 'Xel'.

          And I've known a few SJW throughout my life.

          The 'friends' who say they have your back when you come out and are supposedly soo liberal that they don't care about being seen with the 'gay' boy, but they barely do things with you anymore, or ended up being irked if you ever tap their shoulder again.

          My Macroeconomics teacher in Uni.  Always talking about how females had the less opportunities and received the less help.  Always shaming the male students in one way or another.  Btw, she always talked about the poor females living in poverty, but never said anything regarding the poor who were also male.

          My Economic Analysis teacher, supposedly a Marxist, indigenist (pro-native mexicans)…last time he actually did something to help the poor ethnic groups he always talked about, he hadn't even finished college yet.  Now he just sits in his cubicle comfortably without any care to visit the marginalized zones.  Of course he keeps mentioning the Conquista and how the 'evil WHITE spaniards, raped the poor native mexican women and basically fucked up the soo called greater destiny the Aztecs would have had if the europeans didn't had shown up.

          A perfectly healthy woman in the subway once defended her 'right' to sit on the Elder/People with disabilities/Pregnant or child-carring women Seat.  Because she was a woman. (A young, healthy, non-pregnant, non-child-carrying woman)  while there were elderly people INCLUDING OTHER WOMEN, standing up.

          Has anyone ever asked you to refer to them as 'Xer' or 'Xel'?

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            alibix
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            @raphjd:

            @alibix:

            @raphjd:

            Umm, that quote is exactly what you said.

            Let's compare:

            "SJWs do not exist"

            "To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them. "

            No it is not what I said. What are you not getting?

            SOOOOOO dishonest.

            In your quote, you are claiming that SJWs only exist on the internet and only because people complain about them.   Nowhere in the quote do you admit that you have seen any SJWs anywhere, in real life or on the internet.   You act as if they are mythical creatures that right-wingers made up.

            It's not dishonest. there is a huge fucking difference between those two sentences and I don't know why you can't see that. If you can't see such a basic thing and keep making up stuff I didn't say to argue against then we can't continue this debate.

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            • raphjdR Offline
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              Vocal Minority? To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them.

              Show me the part of that statement, FROM YOU, that shows you admit that SJWs exist other than because people complain about them.

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                @alibix:

                @ffuck:

                @alibix:

                Could you give any example of this stuff in real life and not tumblr?

                Oh honey, trust me, everyone has met radical misandrists (self-proclaimed feminists) in real life. I'm part of the Anarcha-queer community in my country and I have seen a lot of women shaming men just because they are men. As well as shaming other women just because they consider themselves 100% heterosexual and like going with men. This year I even encountered someone who claimed that men should not take off their t-shirts cause it's making women uncomfortable. But it doesn't end there, women should also not take their top off, if they fall into the stereotypical "beauty" category cause it's making other women uncomfortable too. This is not what Feminism is about. Feminism is about freedom and equality: if a guy (or a girl or anyone) takes their shirt off as a sign of personal freedom, you don't shame them and tell them to put it on again. You take your shirt off too. Screaming onto other people's ideas of freedom won't help anyone. You are just being a jerk if you do so.

                That's strange, I wasn't there a huge feminist free the nipple movement early this year? 
                Do you think that person you met represents all feminists?

                We constantly see the man hating feminists and their campaigns.  We never see the "good" feminists  and their campaigns.

                Where are the so-called good feminists that believe in true gender equality?!    Either they don't actually exist or they are sitting on their sofas will the man haters are out doing feminist campaigns.

                We do see women MRAs and Egalitarians and their campaigns.

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                  BloodySunday
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                  @raphjd:

                  Where are the so-called good feminists that believe in true gender equality?!

                  Here.

                  So. What do we now?
                  Are you going to tell me, that I am not, or just not true?

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                    Eridanos
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                    @alibix:

                    Has anyone ever asked you to refer to them as 'Xer' or 'Xel'?

                    Luckily those kind of issues haven't made their way down here.  We don't have those non-binary, non-comforming, gender-neutral stuff down here in Mexico.  We just got the upper class kids claiming they're vegan while the rest of us are meat-eating murderers or our Ecologist Green Party passing out laws that supposedly help animals but instead have resulted in animals being put to sleep.

                    And no, simply because we do have indeterminate pronouns and we use gender pronouns according to what we see and no one gets offended by it.

                    Maybe that's why I find the pronoun thing utterly stupid.  And giving more thought to it, is almost self-segregating, since you're putting yourself apart from the others on the basis of your sexual identity.

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                      alibix
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                      @Eridanos:

                      @alibix:

                      Has anyone ever asked you to refer to them as 'Xer' or 'Xel'?

                      Maybe that's why I find the pronoun thing utterly stupid.  And giving more thought to it, is almost self-segregating, since you're putting yourself apart from the others on the basis of your sexual identity.

                      That's why barely anyone fucking asks people that! Because it is counter-productive The vast majority of trans people just want to be called 'him' or 'her' when they identify as 'him' or 'her'.

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                        Domosuke
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                        I can't say I'm really shocked at the clusterfuck of this thread.

                        You would think that a message board centered around gay pornography would be open minded to people that are different from them, but no. I already envisioned this whole thread panned out which is why I've been avoiding it for a few days now. I can hold back no longer.

                        You would think a bunch of homosexual (or same gender attracted men) would understand issues like this. But I totally see it now.

                        Anything to take the heat off their skillet or the weight off their scale to move it to somewhere else. Which just makes the situation worse.

                        This is turn creates a butterfly effect for people to either become "SJW", or for people to become the oppressors. It makes the situation worse and everything is a pity party now. Nobody is appreciate for what they have, nobody wishes to or wants to empathize anymore,

                        I'm not nessarily a "SJW", but I'm not going to bite my tongue on things which are clearly not right.

                        Call me an "SJW" for saying that gay porn is racist, especially to black people. Call me an "SJW" for saying that men should be allowed to wear makeup and dresses. Call me an "SJW" for saying that Muslim women have the right to wear a burka or not.  I don't give a fuck.

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                          Alexxx1
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                          Unfortunatelly I'm surrounded by them. Gosh how I hate sjws

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                            alibix
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                            @Domosuke:

                            I can't say I'm really shocked at the clusterfuck of this thread.

                            You would think that a message board centered around gay pornography would be open minded to people that are different from them, but no. I already envisioned this whole thread panned out which is why I've been avoiding it for a few days now. I can hold back no longer.

                            You would think a bunch of homosexual (or same gender attracted men) would understand issues like this. But I totally see it now.

                            Anything to take the heat off their skillet or the weight off their scale to move it to somewhere else. Which just makes the situation worse.

                            This is turn creates a butterfly effect for people to either become "SJW", or for people to become the oppressors. It makes the situation worse and everything is a pity party now. Nobody is appreciate for what they have, nobody wishes to or wants to empathize anymore,

                            I'm not nessarily a "SJW", but I'm not going to bite my tongue on things which are clearly not right.

                            Call me an "SJW" for saying that gay porn is racist, especially to black people. Call me an "SJW" for saying that men should be allowed to wear makeup and dresses. Call me an "SJW" for saying that Muslim women have the right to wear a burka or not.  I don't give a fuck.

                            i just came.

                            No but seriously, thanks for your input. So have you met an SJW?

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                              alibix
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                              @Alexxx1:

                              Unfortunatelly I'm surrounded by them. Gosh how I hate sjws

                              Could you expand?

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                              • DomosukeD Offline
                                Domosuke
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                                @alibix:

                                @Domosuke:

                                I can't say I'm really shocked at the clusterfuck of this thread.

                                You would think that a message board centered around gay pornography would be open minded to people that are different from them, but no. I already envisioned this whole thread panned out which is why I've been avoiding it for a few days now. I can hold back no longer.

                                You would think a bunch of homosexual (or same gender attracted men) would understand issues like this. But I totally see it now.

                                Anything to take the heat off their skillet or the weight off their scale to move it to somewhere else. Which just makes the situation worse.

                                This is turn creates a butterfly effect for people to either become "SJW", or for people to become the oppressors. It makes the situation worse and everything is a pity party now. Nobody is appreciate for what they have, nobody wishes to or wants to empathize anymore,

                                I'm not nessarily a "SJW", but I'm not going to bite my tongue on things which are clearly not right.

                                Call me an "SJW" for saying that gay porn is racist, especially to black people. Call me an "SJW" for saying that men should be allowed to wear makeup and dresses. Call me an "SJW" for saying that Muslim women have the right to wear a burka or not.  I don't give a fuck.

                                i just came.

                                No but seriously, thanks for your input. So have you met an SJW?

                                Yes but they aren't called that in real life. They are called liberals.

                                I have never seen the term SJW used away from the internet.

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                                • raphjdR Offline
                                  raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                  @BloodySunday:

                                  @raphjd:

                                  Where are the so-called good feminists that believe in true gender equality?!

                                  Here.

                                  So. What do we now?
                                  Are you going to tell me, that I am not, or just not true?

                                  Ok, other than spouting the feminist dogma, what have you done for TRUE gender equality?

                                  Have you campaigned to get equal funding for prostate cancer, that breast cancer gets since their rates are virtually identical?  I doubt it.

                                  Have you campaigned for gender equality in the UK court system, so judges are forced to comply with UK equality laws?  I doubt it.

                                  I'm going to say that as a feminist, you haven't done anything to help men become equal to women.

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                                  • raphjdR Offline
                                    raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                    @alibix:

                                    @Eridanos:

                                    @alibix:

                                    Has anyone ever asked you to refer to them as 'Xer' or 'Xel'?

                                    Maybe that's why I find the pronoun thing utterly stupid.  And giving more thought to it, is almost self-segregating, since you're putting yourself apart from the others on the basis of your sexual identity.

                                    That's why barely anyone fucking asks people that! Because it is counter-productive The vast majority of trans people just want to be called 'him' or 'her' when they identify as 'him' or 'her'.

                                    And yet, we have Canada's Bill C-16.

                                    Blair White, well known Trans YouTuber, get called all kinds of names because she doesn't support all that BS gender crap.

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                                      raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                      @Domosuke:

                                      I can't say I'm really shocked at the clusterfuck of this thread.

                                      You would think that a message board centered around gay pornography would be open minded to people that are different from them, but no. I already envisioned this whole thread panned out which is why I've been avoiding it for a few days now. I can hold back no longer.

                                      You would think a bunch of homosexual (or same gender attracted men) would understand issues like this. But I totally see it now.

                                      Anything to take the heat off their skillet or the weight off their scale to move it to somewhere else. Which just makes the situation worse.

                                      This is turn creates a butterfly effect for people to either become "SJW", or for people to become the oppressors. It makes the situation worse and everything is a pity party now. Nobody is appreciate for what they have, nobody wishes to or wants to empathize anymore,

                                      I'm not nessarily a "SJW", but I'm not going to bite my tongue on things which are clearly not right.

                                      Call me an "SJW" for saying that gay porn is racist, especially to black people. Call me an "SJW" for saying that men should be allowed to wear makeup and dresses. Call me an "SJW" for saying that Muslim women have the right to wear a burka or not.  I don't give a fuck.

                                      "same gender attracted men"    That sounds extremely familiar.

                                      That's what the black supremacists call being gay, because "gay" is what the "toilet complectioned cave beasts" are.  Or some shit like that.

                                      "UHURU, YA'LL" as YouTube's black Hitler would say.

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                                        bob5678
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                                        @Domosuke:

                                        I can't say I'm really shocked at the clusterfuck of this thread.

                                        You would think that a message board centered around gay pornography would be open minded to people that are different from them, but no. I already envisioned this whole thread panned out which is why I've been avoiding it for a few days now. I can hold back no longer.

                                        You would think a bunch of homosexual (or same gender attracted men) would understand issues like this. But I totally see it now.

                                        Anything to take the heat off their skillet or the weight off their scale to move it to somewhere else. Which just makes the situation worse.

                                        This is turn creates a butterfly effect for people to either become "SJW", or for people to become the oppressors. It makes the situation worse and everything is a pity party now. Nobody is appreciate for what they have, nobody wishes to or wants to empathize anymore,

                                        I'm not nessarily a "SJW", but I'm not going to bite my tongue on things which are clearly not right.

                                        Call me an "SJW" for saying that gay porn is racist, especially to black people. Call me an "SJW" for saying that men should be allowed to wear makeup and dresses. Call me an "SJW" for saying that Muslim women have the right to wear a burka or not.  I don't give a fuck.

                                        I don't think you should be surprised. Most of the people on this site are old white guys who have lived their entire lives pretending to be straight (aka they've lived under hetero white cis male privilege). While others (ie SJWs) were advancing rights for gay people, trans people, etc they were still acting like teenagers and repressing their sexuality. These people have never experienced discrimination due to their sexual orientation let alone gender or race and probably aren't even out. They hang out on these torrent websites to download porn because they are too afraid to even find someone to have sex with in real life.

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                                        • raphjdR Offline
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                                          @bob5678:

                                          I don't think you should be surprised. Most of the people on this site are old white guys who have lived their entire lives pretending to be straight (aka they've lived under hetero white cis male privilege). While others (ie SJWs) were advancing rights for gay people, trans people, etc they were still acting like teenagers and repressing their sexuality. These people have never experienced discrimination due to their sexual orientation let alone gender or race and probably aren't even out. They hang out on these torrent websites to download porn because they are too afraid to even find someone to have sex with in real life.

                                          LOL.  You are funny.

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                                            alibix
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                                            @raphjd:

                                            @alibix:

                                            @Eridanos:

                                            @alibix:

                                            Has anyone ever asked you to refer to them as 'Xer' or 'Xel'?

                                            Maybe that's why I find the pronoun thing utterly stupid.  And giving more thought to it, is almost self-segregating, since you're putting yourself apart from the others on the basis of your sexual identity.

                                            That's why barely anyone fucking asks people that! Because it is counter-productive The vast majority of trans people just want to be called 'him' or 'her' when they identify as 'him' or 'her'.

                                            And yet, we have Canada's Bill C-16.

                                            Blair White, well known Trans YouTuber, get called all kinds of names because she doesn't support all that BS gender crap.

                                            When a trans person put someone in jail for refusing to call themselves a made up pronoun then I'll suck your dick and admit defeat. It's not going to fucking happen though because that's not what the bill is about.

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