Stephen Port who met gay men on Grindr drugged them before raping and killing

eastonkellan

Good thing he was arrested

ahmano

damn, this is so sad and upsetting.

JohnEryn

I don't even know what to think…

Who could like to rape and murder when you can enjoy consensual sex? Grindr and other apps were made to help those that couldn't have sex easily before! I just don't get it... ??? $:-\$

Ryanmatt

Oh my god

raphjd

@JohnEryn:

I don't even know what to think…

Who could like to rape and murder when you can enjoy consensual sex? Grindr and other apps were made to help those that couldn't have sex easily before! I just don't get it... ??? $:-\$

It could be self-hatred and instead of abusing himself over it, he's blaming the guys for it. You know; they caused him to do it.

farkme

This is local to me and it turns my stomach. I'm sure he even messaged me at one point.

What I don't get is the absolute negligence of the police force who didn't put together this was a serial killer leaving 4 victims the exact same way.

Hippy

This man was found guilty then given an indeterminate sentence. The sentence for murder in Britain is life, but judges usually declare a certain number of years in prison, thereafter release on licence. The offender then has to report to police, stay in a known location, and be monitored for suspicious behaviour.

In Stephen Port's case this will almost certainly mean he will be in prison until he dies. This is rare in Britain. He is unlikely ever to be considered to be safe for release.

His offending was less to do with sexual gratification than a result of his psychopathic nature. Not all psychopaths are murderers, but almost all mass murderers are psychopaths.

unpleased

Every sane one would not release a serial killer like him: there are no reported regression cases for that kind of murderers.

We would like to think about s.k. in a Dexter-like fashion, but they are more variegated in a many major ways …
ethnicity, sex, isolation or involvement in community, i.q., reasons, etc

They have been fascinating our culture since years because a sane one is not able to understand them.
So when I read "I don't even know what to think...", I rejoice you're ok. :hug2:

This is a typical case for a whole range of things:

the victim (homeless & sex workers are the most vulnerable)
the killer (psychopath s.k. with a sadistic impulse the exertion of power)
the drug usage associated to a sexual perversion
clues left by the inability to control his own impulses
...

Given this, I would worry more for quite each one of the other actives left in there..

:panic: & :an2: with Grindr

motri

@hw597:

Just read the story and shock of my life. I live in Barking! It's not a big place, he definitely would have shown up if I were still using apps. Thankfully at 28 Im probably a little above his hunting range.

How the fuck did I not know this happened?

it's because there was not much new coverage of it at all initially. Even the police were not investigating the cases regarding the grindr killer too much, which is the reasons a good number of Inspectors are under investigation right now regarding this case.

hw597

Every time I here about this case I just have more questions. He was convicted earlier of perverting the course of justice with the first murder.

He left the guy on a bench and called the 999 saying there was a young guy seizing outside. Later investigation showed story inconsistency hence the conviction. How that then turns into 3 more murders I have no idea.

Also what kind of crazy dosages was this man using? I am the furthest thing from a chem sex guy but I am aware it is a thing. Surely you would have to really be going for it to OD such a variety of people, body types and tolerances.
I'd like to know if chem sex was ever mentioned in the initial messaging. Or just general [cray cray] signs to look out for.

This is literally on my doorstep. I walk through abbey where the bodies were dumped once a week.

alma

@erich214:

A friend of mine was actually texting him, but never managed to meet up with him.

Thank goodness he didn't!!!!

My god that is a scary thought !!!! :afr2:

Bearloch

Back in the late 90's i had the misfortune to be in a gay sauna in Edinburgh,Scotland and was having sex in a private room with a guy who started to bite me.At first it was just a nibble then he took one huge chunk out of my buttock.I punched this guy in the stomach before leaving the room.He later turned out to be the one and only David Beggs who had picked up a gay man in a bar in Teeside(England),slashed his throat,murdered him and was released on a technicality.The year after my meeting this creature he went on the hunt again and killed another gay man.Dismembered his body,threw the parts into Loch Lomond and threw his head into the sea at Troon(Scotland).I think I maybe wouldn't have been so lucky hadn't I been in a sauna.I never seek sex on apps because of this experience.

cannonmc

Wasn't that William Beggs…

Bearloch

Yes it was William Beggs.Mistake there.

noah228

Jeez, scary stuff. Stay safe out there, boys.