Does Trump's victory in the Presidental election worry you as an LGBT individua?

syuvan12

@syuvan12:

More than Trump himself, I'm more afraid of what (some of) his supporters are capable of doing and ARE doing right now.
I have read about over 50 such incidents that occurred all over the country which took place on the first day of Trump presidency.
A FEW examples:

A black man's car was atrociously vandalized with the words "NIG*ER" and "Trump" right next to each other.

A gay man has been brutally attacked by Trump supporters right after the election results were announced. They smashed a bottle over his head and was left bleeding profusely while they yelled, "We got a new president you fucking fagg*ts."

A woman of color was threatened by white Trump supporters in a gas station who asked her to leave the country, and then proceeded to pull out a gun on her and said, "If there weren't any witnesses, I'd kill you right now."

The internet is blowing up with MANY more such incidents.

And perhaps people should do a little research before sharing such bullshit without a little verification:
AT LEAST 2 of your 3 examples have been proven to be FALSE, but don't let a little thing like the truth get in the way of your paranoia and hate!
https://reason.com/blog/2016/11/11/election-night-hijab-attack-false

First off, calm down. I'm not trying to get anyone angry or upset.

Secondly, I only posted what I believed to be true. So instead of getting angry at me for stating what I thought was true and bashing me for it, just say that I'm wrong. There's really no need for you to get all defensive. I would've just checked up on the issues and would've apologized about it.
When I see stuff like that from a lot of people, when I see that kind of hate, my first thought wasn't, "These people might be lying" because I knew what kind of people some Trump supporters are.
That's all there is.
So next time, when you wanna point out someone's mistake, be kind to them, instead of going off about it.

Like it or not, we do have a blatantly homophobic Vice President of the US and probably a homophobic President as well. Be kind to one another, we really do need to stick together in times like these.

Much love,
Yuvan

rawr

Holy crap… Some of you guys are seriously brainwashed by the media.

#1 I don't support Trump, I didn't vote for him, and I don't think he should be president.

#2 Trump can't just snap his fingers and do much, okay? He needs approval of the senate and the house, to pass a bill, which he would propose. Those people are professional politicians and they aren't going to vote for anything that is going to hurt their chances at re-election. They're not just going to rubber stamp a bill that forces sexual reassignment surgery upon LGTBQ people because Trump said so, okay?

#3 Trump played the media, he lied, said insane things, and behaved outrageously in order to be continuously in the news. I remember going to MSNBC one time and thinking "wow they've turned the news into a giant Trump tabloid… It's all Trump..." The only people Trump bullied around were the media and it worked, they couldn't stop running stories about him, and they completely muted Hillary Clinton out of the news while they did it. The media blasted "Trump says election rigged" for a month and people got the idea that it was him conceding the election or he knew he wasn't going to win, no it was him winning the election. The message itself was an attempt to suppress the vote of Hillary supporters and it ran every day on the news.

#4 Trump isn't stupid, I know maybe people believe otherwise, and the media tried very hard to get you to believe he's stupid, but he isn't. He's not just going to do random things to piss people off. I highly doubt he even wants the nuclear codes.

#5 He won, give the guy a chance… The people who should be pissed off the most, are actually Republicans, not Hillary supporters. You know why? Because he lied to all of them, not to the Hillary supporters. Repeal Obamacare, drain the swamp, build a wall… Come on now... People believed this crap? These are rallying cries, not policies. Look what he's doing, he's building a team of Washington insiders, which would have been pretty much the same people if any other of the Republican candidates won and he already flip flopped on some of the key issues.

#6 The only thing Donald Trump wants to be more than popular and powerful, is liked. He wants people to like him, hes a massive narcissist, you should all know that. His plan was to simultaneously build a base of rabid supporters while making people believe "there's just no way he will win" and people didn't take the election seriously. (Sound familiar to anybody? Like Brexit? Same political play.) He wants nothing more than to be remembered for "Making America Great Again" like another Reagan. So he's going to tap the best people (he already is) to try to come up policy making that will or could do that.

#7 The Republican party is not against gay people. They completely moved off of the marriage equality issue prior to last election cycle. There are GLB Republicans and much of the recent political turmoil has revolved around transgender people and I feel bad for them. Honestly I don't think politicians know how to respond to that issue.

#8 About the only thing Donald Trump is going to personally do is go play golf. Stop taking the bait on his crazy ideas. Top politicians on the democratic side weren't fooled by his antics and you shouldn't be either. What was Obama's message? Focus, stop paying attention to his supporters and go vote, people couldn't and didn't, that's why Hillary lost. Trump and the rest of Republican party should seriously be concerned about getting their popularity up before the next election cycle, because that trick will not work twice.

Edit: How does Trump quell the hate he stirred up in America? I have no idea and it might be his downfall.

tightass2020

@rawr:

Holy crap… Some of you guys are seriously brainwashed by the media.

#7 The Republican party is not against gay people. They completely moved off of the marriage equality issue prior to last election cycle. There are GLB Republicans and much of the recent political turmoil has revolved around transgender people and I feel bad for them. Honestly I don't think politicians know how to respond to that issue.

Perhaps you should actually read the Republican Party Platform from their own web site before you make such ill-informed statements. Check out section 6 titled "Great American Families, Education, Healthcare, and Criminal Justice" and you'll find they explicitly want to redefine legal marriage to "one man one woman" excluding ALL same sex marriages.

Before you try to tell us these bigots are not bad guys, take a few minutes and read their own words.

rawr

@tightass2020:

@rawr:

Holy crap… Some of you guys are seriously brainwashed by the media.

#7 The Republican party is not against gay people. They completely moved off of the marriage equality issue prior to last election cycle. There are GLB Republicans and much of the recent political turmoil has revolved around transgender people and I feel bad for them. Honestly I don't think politicians know how to respond to that issue.

Perhaps you should actually read the Republican Party Platform from their own web site before you make such ill-informed statements. Check out section 6 titled "Great American Families, Education, Healthcare, and Criminal Justice" and you'll find they explicitly want to redefine legal marriage to "one man one woman" excluding ALL same sex marriages.

Before you try to tell us these bigots are not bad guys, take a few minutes and read their own words.

Thanks for playing ill-informed statements game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obergefell_v._Hodges

It's your constitution right now, they're not going to touch it. It doesn't matter what their platform says. 60% of their supporters are against it and that's why it says it. Even if they replaced Scalia with an anti marriage equality supreme court justice, that doesn't matter, since he dissented. Be concerned if one the majority judges dies and get replaced with an anti equality judge.

Unless you think Trump is going to start assassinating them or something insane …

kaeyresky

not really worried about Trump. The VP is concerning, though.

bob5678

@rawr:

@tightass2020:

@rawr:

Holy crap… Some of you guys are seriously brainwashed by the media.

#7 The Republican party is not against gay people. They completely moved off of the marriage equality issue prior to last election cycle. There are GLB Republicans and much of the recent political turmoil has revolved around transgender people and I feel bad for them. Honestly I don't think politicians know how to respond to that issue.

Perhaps you should actually read the Republican Party Platform from their own web site before you make such ill-informed statements. Check out section 6 titled "Great American Families, Education, Healthcare, and Criminal Justice" and you'll find they explicitly want to redefine legal marriage to "one man one woman" excluding ALL same sex marriages.

Before you try to tell us these bigots are not bad guys, take a few minutes and read their own words.

Thanks for playing ill-informed statements game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obergefell_v._Hodges

It's your constitution right now, they're not going to touch it. It doesn't matter what their platform says. 60% of their supporters are against it and that's why it says it. Even if they replaced Scalia with an anti marriage equality supreme court justice, that doesn't matter, since he dissented. Be concerned if one the majority judges dies and get replaced with an anti equality judge.

Unless you think Trump is going to start assassinating them or something insane …

Obama appointed 2 justices in his first term…do you think Ginsburg will live forever?

ILBear

All my gay friends are very concerned and afraid of this new administration. I know several couples who are married and worry, once the new SCOTUS is appointed, a ruling could come down which would affect their marriage. The country just took 2 steps backwards in equality.

raphjd

@amicusets:

@MancCub:

@raphjd:

BLM came about as a result of police brutality and unlawful/unjustified killings, that were particularly inflicted upon the black community.

It has no basis with Obama or Clinton and you know that! Stop peddling lies.

Actually, you are the one peddling lies. The entire BLM movement is predicated on false narratives. 1) Trayvon Martin was found to be the aggressor against George Zimmerman and that is what caused his death. 2) Mike Brown and the whole "hands up, don't shoot" was a LIE! Proven by not only eyewitnesses but by the forensics.

Over 100 FBI agents investigated the Michael Brown case and found that it was a 100% justifiable shooting. From memory, the final report has 22,000 pages of evidence.

amicusets

@kaeyresky:

not really worried about Trump. The VP is concerning, though.

I am more worried about Muslim extremists, I mean they would rather kill you than look at you, but keep worrying about that sky falling.

amicusets

@ILBear:

All my gay friends are very concerned and afraid of this new administration. I know several couples who are married and worry, once the new SCOTUS is appointed, a ruling could come down which would affect their marriage. The country just took 2 steps backwards in equality.

My husband has been in business with Trump for 20 years, and used to be a big donor for HRC and the DNC. I can tell you with 100% certainty– gay people have NOTHING to worry about regarding Donald J. Trump.

tempbo

Oh, I'm sure he'll let Mike Pence do the anti-LGBT stuff while he stands back and watches. There are none so easy to fool as those who want to believe I guess.

amicusets

@tempbo:

Oh, I'm sure he'll let Mike Pence do the anti-LGBT stuff while he stands back and watches. There are none so easy to fool as those who want to believe I guess.

The Democrats figured this out decades ago, and with the MSM have cultivated a population that has lost critical thinking skills.

slimsf888

Trump himself doesn't seem overly anti-LGBT, but he sure surrounds himself with homophobes. I have very little confidence in the coming administration…

obras62

Trump and his 'friends' don't scare me but the people who voted for him do.

The attitude now is, If I don't like if F%^k off.

That scares me.

jojojojo3

@amicusets:

@MancCub:

@raphjd:

BLM came about as a result of police brutality and unlawful/unjustified killings, that were particularly inflicted upon the black community.

It has no basis with Obama or Clinton and you know that! Stop peddling lies.

Actually, you are the one peddling lies. The entire BLM movement is predicated on false narratives. 1) Trayvon Martin was found to be the aggressor against George Zimmerman and that is what caused his death. 2) Mike Brown and the whole "hands up, don't shoot" was a LIE! Proven by not only eyewitnesses but by the forensics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK8XzRKOem8 you're all idiots if you're scared in the slightest

raphjd

Some of you people need to stop believing the ultra liberal lies!!!!!!

MARRIAGE EQUALITY IS PART OF US CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. IT WOULD TAKE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THAT.

CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS ARE EXTREMELY HARD TO PASS AND THE PROCESS TAKES YEARS.

Loki100

@raphjd:

Some of you people need to stop believing the ultra liberal lies!!!!!!

MARRIAGE EQUALITY IS PART OF US CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. IT WOULD TAKE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THAT.

CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS ARE EXTREMELY HARD TO PASS AND THE PROCESS TAKES YEARS.

Dude, no it wouldn't. All it would take is a sympathetic supreme court. And any supreme court that was willing to overturn Roe v. Wade (which Trump has promised) is willing to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges).

I wouldn't try to lecture people on Constitutional Law when don't seem to be aware of what it is in the first place.

heartrick

I'm not American but as trump is the president in the US now, I don't want to go there again.

rimmingasian

No, it doesn't worry me. For one, Trump isn't anti-gay. I know, I know. Look up his past. Second of all, look at all the money we aren't paying in taxes Get socialism out of the country. Let's hope for a fiscally responsible America.

tempbo

I guess that's it then. Even after gay marriages have been invalidated and outlawed, minorities and immigrants fear for their lives and Trump supporters run roughshod over all opposition there will still be some of us saying "but he's not anti-gay!"
I hope those of us taking taking this stance are the first ones to be victimized. Sorry if that makes me seem like a dick, but at least I have LOTS of competition in this thread.