Any Trump Supporters here?

[wedge]

@kb69:

@wedge:

@raphjd:

The discussion on here and other forums shows that a large number of gays are becoming anti-Muslim

Do you honestly need graphic visual reminders of why gays are growing hostile to muslims?    They are lucky we don't do to them what they do to us.

Then of course there is the general way muslims act toward westerners.   "Sexual Emergency" rapes of children, men and women.

Muslims don't even want their fellow muslims, so we have to take them and pander to them.

What pandering? Last I checked, the UK occupied many Muslim lands for centuries and exploited their wealth and resources. It is also UK, not US interestingly, that divided and ruled the Middle East, the brunt of which is now being borne by all.

Name the mulsim countries in the middle east that England invaded and caused this mess.

That's a handful of countries at best. You know who did cause a mess in the middle east? muslims.

I can however name you multiple countries where muslims are the reason for a mess:

Russia with the chechen
China with the Uyghurs
India with it's own muslim population forever causing issues, not to mention the shithole known as pakistan nextdoor harboring terrorists like Osama.
Myanmar with the rohingyas
All of Europe where the crusades were fought, with Spain copping it a bit, with muslims breeding into their gene pool.
France accepting muslim immigrants and the ungrateful cunts repay them with terrorism.

muslim's don't accept multiculturalism. There ideologies are to either kill infidels, convert infidels or breed more of their own. They don't even care for variations of their own religion. sunni's, shias, ahmadis, kurds, sufis etc etc there is no love lost between them.

And last but not least muslims dont give a shit about homosexuals and those of you supporting those douchebags are very deluded. you will be stoned to death no questions asked.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your ignorance. The map you posted clearly shows many Muslim majority lands under British occupation. The British and French divided and ruled Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Palestine. As for your other claptrap, read some news. In all the countries you mentioned where supposedly Muslims are creating a mess, it is their governments who are brutally killing the minorities. Read some reliable news and Amnesty/HRW reports before spewing hatred.

[kb69]

@wedge:

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your ignorance. The map you posted clearly shows many Muslim majority lands under British occupation. The British and French divided and ruled Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Palestine. As for your other claptrap, read some news. In all the countries you mentioned where supposedly Muslims are creating a mess, it is their governments who are brutally killing the minorities. Read some reliable news and Amnesty/HRW reports before spewing hatred.

Perhaps cry at your own misguided green tinted eyes.

You named 4 countries of which the shithole known as palestine has only existed since 1948. And countries in Africa are only muslim majority because they the muslims invaded the continent themselves, perhaps do read a history book? But i guess that fair game. But if the British invade a country god forbid the poor muslims who have been downtrodden and have never done anything wrong, including a so called prophet who dicks a 9 year old.

Oh so the poor muslims living in russia have been scapegoated by the Russian govt have they? I guess the beslan school massacre, where close to 400 including 200 odd kids were killed by russian spetznaz were they? can you share an Amnesty HRW link please?

I guess Kashmir in India is being pillaged by state sanctioned Hindu terrorists in the name of Krishna. The poor muslims there, my heart goes out to them. And pakistan dosn't harbour terrorists. osama was an innocent man vilified by the Americans. It was easy to blame all the problems on a cave dwelling loser than admit they fucked shit up. Poor osama, he had a nice life in abbotabad. he just wanted to retire in "peace'.

The Uyghur carrying out knife and bombing attacks must be made up. The Chinese need to make damn sure minorities be villified in the public eye, coz they know these peaceful muslims shouldn't be happy in their peacefulness. Cuntish behaviour by the Chinese govt to say the least.

Oh and the poor rohingyas, where is rape of 10 year old boys is acceptable in their 'homeland'. Just because muslims invade a country does not make it their homeland. have a fun read: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3767301/Muslim-refugee-20-raped-10-year-old-boy-bedroom-claimed-culturally-acceptable-sexually-assault-children-homeland.html#ixzz4J1PjEpsJ
But i guess the aussie govt is fabricating news, because muslims do no wrong!!

I guess France made up the last few months of attacks and blamed it on terrorists when they were infact carried out by white catholics in the name of Jesus. i couldn't find a source though, care to share an amnesty/hrw link?

if muslims are so peaceful and righteous why does the home of islam, saudi arabia have a sword in it's flag? it coz it had a very violent past, (which included a so called prophet who dicked a 9 year old girl) being a part of countless conflicts? No of course not. Pish Posh absolutely rubbish. The sword signifies that muslims are so peaceful they won't even use a sword to decapitate the infidels.

peace out seacrest.

[raphjd]

We need a bit of correction here.

Palestine has existed for over 3,000 years;

1. The Torah refers to it as Plesheth.  It's Philistine in modern english.

2. The OT of the bible refers to it as PHILLISTIA (old english), but it was originally called Canaan (Cane and Able story)

3. The Greeks and Romans referred to it as Palaistinê or Palaestina, respectively.

4. Through history, it retained a version of the name, up to the modern day.

Palestine became muslim in 636 AD, when Mohamed and his horde took Syria and Palestine from the Roman Empire.

The UK issued the Balfour Declaration in 1916 in hopes of gathering support from neutral countries during WW1.  This said that jews should be given a homeland in Palestine.  This created a huge rift between jews on both sides of the zionist issue.

At the end of WW1, the British got control of Palestine through the Palestine Mandate.

Previously, the jews who lived in the area were pretty peaceful, but once the British took over, jews committed terrorism at an alarming rate.

[raphjd]

OK, let's not forget that muslims have been victims of genocide as well.  The whole Bosnia thing in the 1990s was christians killing muslims.

Not defending one side or the other, just trying to keep things a bit balanced.

[raphjd]

I hate both Trump and Hillary.

Trump's issues are obvious, but most people here seem to turn a blind eye to Hillary's femi-nazism.   She says that women are the main victims of war because men die and get maimed in war.  She ignores the men who actually die and get maimed in war.  Pick a single US war and you will see that more war dogs have been killed during that single war, than ALL military women through all the wars the US has been involved in.

The ubber femi-nazi that she is, sh is against the gender equality of women being in the draft.   She is also against ending the Duluth model of domestic violence that says it's always the man that is guilty, even when he appears to be the victim.

Hillary spews man hating lies that have been repeatedly debunked.

I could go on forever on her man hating brand of feminism and why she is unfit to lead a country.

If you want examples of what women feminist national leaders are like, just look at them.   Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has refused to make laws gender neutral when it would help men, such as in family and divorce courts.  She's not opposed to laws that benefit women over men, though.

If you support Hillary, get a sex change or she won't support you.

PS:  Those photos are from WW1.

[jamieka]

I just really can't decide, I don't really want either of them to become president!

[nickys1177]

trump does not know anything about running a government

[brianboru72]

@jamieka:

I just really can't decide, I don't really want either of them to become president!

In cases like this- my advice if you'll take it is to go with the lesser evil. You can't change the fact that one of them will win- but at least you can make your vote count by making sure the worst one doesn't become your president. I think it would be clear to you which is the worst of two bad choices.

[sutieday]

I like Trump because I want to protect Western Civilization from collapsing. If its Hillary she and the Dems will totally change the demographics of the USA where the democrats will remain in power forever, and Texas may as well turn blue.

Hillary and the Dems have also stoked up tensions between the US and Russia which I fear may go nuclear.

With the latest Wikileaks/FBI Investigation I can't see how anyone can make a reasonable argument in favor for Hillary Clinton.

I know Trump is not perfect, nobody is, but I believe he genuinely cares about America and will not bend over to the slaves of political correctness that have been driving the nation in the wrong direction.

[unpleased]

@sutieday:

I like Trump because I want to protect Western Civilization from collapsing. If its Hillary she and the Dems will totally change the demographics of the USA where the democrats will remain in power forever, and Texas may as well turn blue.

Hillary and the Dems have also stoked up tensions between the US and Russia which I fear may go nuclear.

With the latest Wikileaks/FBI Investigation I can't see how anyone can make a reasonable argument in favor for Hillary Clinton.

I know Trump is not perfect, nobody is, but I believe he genuinely cares about America and will not bend over to the slaves of political correctness that have been driving the nation in the wrong direction.

+1    4 this
but he has his dark side too

[myrea]

… How did you even got to this mess? You have two candidates with issues in court... crimes most likely.
Just massively vote Jill Stein or something.
Really you're going to put Trump as Potus, are you that insane? Don't you think the entire world would be a bit weirded out by that?
Hillary might prove to be just as ridiculous of a choice for whole other sinister reasons.

Americans just do a huge protest against both candidates in Washington... are you all just really going to swallow and hold breath for 4 years and handle the shitstorm?

[sutieday]

I agree the two party system sucks, but really? Jill Stein? The person polling at 2%. No thanks pal.

[SpectorTM]

Just a note, Trump wants to reverse gay marriage rights when he's elected. So I really hope none of you good people actually vote for him.  :bpr:

[unpleased]

@myrea:

are you all just really going to swallow and hold breath for 4 years and handle the shitstorm?

They will maybe have the chance to withstand that for 4 years.

But they do not have any ally in Asia, Middle Easter, partially Africa,
(luckily the Latin American countries are very angry but submissive),
and their economic hegemony doesn't stand anymore.

And this without resorting to the sad situation of the financial market,
deflated by the derivatives bubble (which has yet to blow up completely).

Everyone in the world is watching at the next DC move,
and in both cases it's the wrong move, so the empire is falling.

@SpectorTM:

Trump wants to reverse gay marriage rights when he's elected

At this point, does it matter ?

What will come next ? Let's see  :cheesy2:

[sutieday]

@SpectorTM:

Just a note, Trump wants to reverse gay marriage rights when he's elected. So I really hope none of you good people actually vote for him.  :bpr:

First Republican nominee to do this.

[stevoo]

I will hold Donald Trump responsible for any internal, domestic violence following this election if he should win or lose. His loud anti-LGBT and racist rallies have served to incite the far-right, homophobic, evangelistic and 2nd amendment crowd to the point of yell for revolution and call to arms should be enough for all reasonable people among us to emphatically prevent Trump from the Presidency. I just can't image what it may be like for all Americans with Trump as president.

[brianboru72]

Hillary may be a tough choice to swallow- but Trump has been consistently worse. His policies are incoherent ramblings, he is a misogynist and racist, he brags about not paying taxes, swindling people who work for him, bankrupting multiple business ventures…the list goes on and on. Let's not forget he is a serial liar who has made the truth a joke in this election, and he is a hate-monger who is supported by the KKK.

Waving an (inverted) rainbow flag does not make you a supporter of gay rights. Representing the party which has consistently opposed gay rights and making statements that you want to undo marriage equality shows you are solidly against LGBT people. So, no, I don't think people should vote for him. The world would be a more dangerous place if he leads America for the next four years.

[YoungGun]

Hillary >>>>> Trump

And it's not even close.

I'm not a huge fan of Hillary but in comparison to Trump she definitely needs to win.  Trump is a demagogue who has thrown all minorities under the bus and clearly is ignorant on social issues which directly impacts our social group.

We can all debate a variety of issues like the economy, military, etc.  But what should be very clear is which political alliances (AKA parties) have had our backs more when it comes to legislation on LGBT issues and which party has thrown us under the bus more to other political interests.

1 of the most important powers of the President is his/her power to appoint federal judges and justices to the Supreme Court.  No branch of the government is perfect or free from corruption, but of the 3 branches, the judicial branch has been the most consistently protective of minority rights (against tyranny of the majority) and the one who has paved the way for increased social justice.  They helped end segregation, allowed interracial marriage, and of course recently paved the way for gay marriage among many other issues.

There's a whole bunch of other reasons to elect Hillary over Trump like the fact that she's a professional politician (where most of her faults come from, but that's largely a matter of "hate the game, not the player") whereas Trump still has all the vices of a politician without the experience, diplomacy, and competence.  He's a loose cannon whose main concern is his own self-interest and not the nation's.  He's clearly demonstrated he'll sell minority groups like us down the river.

[unpleased]

@brianboru72:

supported by the KKK
the party which has consistently opposed gay rights
statements that you want to undo marriage equality

The truth is that the US government has never been into protecting LGBT people.

And in this election this applies to both you know who:
let's not forget the difference between public and private position.

If gay rights have been granted is a matter of circumstances due mostly to the perseverance of the people.
Not politics, not party, people.

For this reason I tend to hope that would have happened even if whoever else had power.
And for this exact reason I tend to think that an undo isn't going to happen anytime soon.

If you have time and wanna read a dissertation about KKK-equality-etc, here you can find some of past concerns that have never entirely left.
https://byparker.com/blog/2016/tim-cook-s-privacy-battle-is-personal/

The battle for freedom as in speech, thought, behaviour, sexuality, religion is not gone,
there's only a change in appearance, but no one is going to endeavour our own battle, we have to.

[farkme]

The US elections are the only ones in the western world where I get genuinely scared for the future of humanity because they always bring forward the most disturbing candidates.